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Is it wrong or illegal to network off your bank's WGL?

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anybankeratall
     
 
(Senior Baboon, 247
 
Points)
 on 5/23/13 at 10:21pm
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If you work in banking - even as an intern - you obviously have access to everything in the IB share drive including the WGLs for all deals going on. Esp. for capital raising deals where there will be many banks working together. Less so or N.A. for M&A deals.

Networking is how you lateral over if you want to switch banks after 1 year or 2 years.

Is it wrong or illegal to use the contact information from the WGL to reach out to people at other banks to grow your network? Could you get fired? Or is this a good/smart idea?

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Worst Career Advice for New Grads

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minibar
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(Senior Orangutan, 442
 
Points)
 on 5/23/13 at 7:32pm
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Listen up all you newly minted college grads. Now that you’re entering the brave, new, depressing world that is life post college, you are probably eager to jump start your cube life and pay down your debts. And everyone you talk to is gonna offer up their unsolicited sage advice about careers and working and the real world and blah blah

Some of it is common sense, occasionally its useful, but most of the time its useless. So here are my dos centavos, if you will, a list of terrible career advice for you to never follow...

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MSF Question and Answer

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TNA
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(Human, 13,712
 
Points)
 on 5/23/13 at 10:30am
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I get a ton of emails and answer a ton of posts asking similar questions so I thought I would answer the most common ones I get here and allow others to post their questions so everyone can see them and the subsequent answers. Hope this helps.

Summer Analyst Eligibility
• The SA position is really structured for undergraduate students. The whole reason undergraduates go for a SA position is because they aren’t ready to work full time. If you are in a one year masters program is really doesn’t make much sense to try for an SA spot when you are eligible for FT analyst recruiting.

Now if you feel that you need internship experience in order to be more competitive then your best bet is to look for an unpaid internship or something off cycle. This will give you FO finance type experience, increase your knowledge and something you can do during the school year thereby not making you ineligible for full time positions.

Does this mean you can’t apply for a SA gig? No.

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USV Banked 5,000% on Tumblr. Or Did They?

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Edmundo Braverman
      ST
 
 
(Human, 14,707
 
Points)
 on 5/23/13 at 8:14am
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Fred Wilson is a legendary venture capitalist; arguably the best in the game today. He's such a visionary that it wasn't hard to believe when PrivCo announced that Union Square Ventures netted a whopping 5,000% return on their Tumblr investment. What was harder to believe (or maybe I'm just jealous) was what the takeover meant for Tumblr employees in dollars and cents:

The company's first 10 employees will receive an average of $6.2 million in cash; the first 30 will receive an average of $3.3 million in cash, and the rest of the 178 employees will each receive $371,000.

Tumblr founder David Karp, 26, walked away with over $250 million after dropping out of high school to work on the project. Fred Wilson reacted to closing the all-cash deal with Yahoo! with his typical class and humility, stating, "You can count on it — when a deal works out spectacularly everyone involved will take credit for it. This behavior is particularly annoying to the entrepreneurs who put the sweat, blood, and tears into the Company."

But did USV actually make a 5,000% return?

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Well deserved thank you to WSO!

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streetwannabe
      AM
 
(King Kong, 1,406
 
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 on 5/23/13 at 4:00am
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Afternoon monkeys,

I just wanted to take a quick moment to thank everyone on this sight who has given me good, and sometimes harsh advice. I just graduated from a very small private school with a 3.5 GPA, decent internship experiences and hardly any connections. I've had quite a few interviews, always ending up getting dinged in the final rounds and have also applied for probably somewhere around 500 jobs over the past year. The constant rejection was very disheartening, however I've finally landed a full time gig as a Credit Research Associate at a large asset management firm!

"History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme."
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My Biggest Career Mistake to Date: Prestige

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bankerella
      IB
 
 
(King Kong, 1,895
 
Points)
 on 5/22/13 at 10:30pm
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Mod note: Best of Bankerella - this was originally posted 10/1/12

I occasionally get PMed by people at colleges I’ve never heard of before, asking if they have a shot at IBD.

Folks, why IBD? The finance world is broad and varied, and there are a million ways to make a buck. Why pick the one that’s going to be hardest for you in your situation? There are mutual fund companies, asset management companies all over the damn place. Hedge funds. Auxiliary businesses. Those folks will look beyond the name of your institution and your GPA in the hunt for quality. Why knock on the door of the one section of the industry that has built a massive recruiting machine designed to keep you out?

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5 Quirks of Chinese Colleagues

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NiuShi
      PE
 
 
(Senior Baboon, 211
 
Points)
 on 5/22/13 at 7:00pm
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Every office has their winners, but here are just a few of the goofy things you might encounter while working with Chinese colleagues. Those with China experience, definitely sound off at the bottom here.

1) Now while I’m sure what I eat in the office gives my colleagues room for pause as well, there are a few things that should never happen. Probably number one on my list thus far is eating hot dogs on a stick and milk for breakfast.

A close second is eating spicy peppers on the hottest days of the summer, both so that they sweat to cool off and also so they breathe more heavily so their mouth cools down too. It’s all about balancing their Qi, I am told. Which brings me to number 2.

2) There is no need for a Qi or FengShui App on your smartphone to help you with your work. If you are following your Qi app that is telling you to drink chrysanthemum tea in the late morning because your inner temperature is too cool, I’m going to go ahead and argue that you’ve got a shedload more to study about this whole Qi thing before you call yourself an expert.

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Equity Risk Premiums (ERP) and Stocks: Bullish or Bearish Indicator

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Aswath Damodaran
     
 
 
(Gorilla, 579
 
Points)
 on 5/22/13 at 11:00am
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If you have been following my blog postings, you are probably aware that I have an obsession with equity risk premiums (ERP), and have done an annual survey paper on the topic  every year since 2008 (with the 2013 update here). I also post a monthly update for the ERP for the S&P 500 at the start of the month on my website. As a consequence, my attention was drawn to a post by Fernando Duarte and Carlo Rosa, economists at the Fed in New York, on the topic.

They argue that equity risk premiums are at historic highs, primarily because the US treasury rates are low, and note that these high equity risk premiums are a precursor to good stock returns in the future. I don’t disagree with their authors that equity risk premiums are high, relative to history and that the low risk free rate is in large part responsible these large premiums, but I am less sanguine about using the ERP as a market timing device, especially at this time in history.

Professor of Finance at Stern Damodaran's Blog -- See my other wso posts
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Rand Paul GOES OFF at Apple Hearing

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Edmundo Braverman
      ST
 
 
(Human, 14,707
 
Points)
 on 5/22/13 at 7:30am

This is just fantastic. After sitting through Carl Levin and John McCain spewing a bunch of nonsense about how Apple doesn't pay enough taxes (despite being the #3 taxpaying company in America behind ExxonMobil and Chevron), Rand Paul lit them up about what a travesty it was to blame Apple for doing the same thing every American taxpayer does, for how our convoluted tax code actually chases money overseas, and how Congress owes Apple an apology for wasting their time. He then pointed out just how bad our corporate tax code really is and proposed a permanent 5% repatriation tax on cash held overseas. This is excellent stuff:

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What wallet and watch are you using?

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Emo_Rhino
     
 
(Monkey, 32
 
Points)
 on 5/22/13 at 4:00am
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My friend in the industry is asking me to get a new watch and a new wallet to suit the financial industry image. He says please get a branded wallet and watch. Currently I am using a casio g-shock and a wallet that costs less than $100 given by friends on my birthday.

He says image is very important and for watches, he asked me to look at swiss watches like omega and for wallets, consider bottega. I looked at their prices online and was like wow.

Is image really that important? What wallets and watches are you guys wearing?

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Vacation Days

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CashCow
     
 
(Senior Orangutan, 440
 
Points)
 on 5/22/13 at 1:00am
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I was surprised that my offer letter said that I will get several weeks of vacation days.

Is this for real, or would I anger people by actually using these days?

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Apple Tax

UFOinsider's picture
UFOinsider
      O
 
(Human, 10,478
 
Points)
 on 5/21/13 at 9:52pm
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I don't know why I find this funny:

Senate investigators accuse Apple of wiring together a complicated system to shield billions of dollars in international profits from both U.S. and foreign tax collectors.
A report released ahead of Apple CEO Tim Cook’s inaugural Capitol Hill appearance Tuesday alleges the tech giant took advantage of numerous U.S. tax loopholes and avoided U.S. taxes on $44 billion in offshore, taxable income between 2009 and 2012 — a characterization Apple flatly rejects.

From "Senate investigators: Apple sheltered $44 billion from taxes"

What do you think?

I notice that the older I am the more I sound like Illini Programer - accountingbyday
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2013 Bonus Season

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ayoayo
     
 
(Monkey, 57
 
Points)
 on 5/21/13 at 7:35pm
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So what do you guys think? Fees have been revived a little bit in the LTM, particularly with the huge deals in Q1'13. Are we going to see an increase from the weak bonuses of last year?

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SAC Against the Ropes

Edmundo Braverman's picture
Edmundo Braverman
      ST
 
 
(Human, 14,707
 
Points)
 on 5/21/13 at 7:30am
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It's been a rough couple of weeks for Stevie Cohen and his crew, and the situation is growing more "fluid" with each passing day. I kinda kept one eye on it all weekend after the somewhat cryptic announcement on Friday that SAC would no longer be "fully" cooperating with the government's investigation into insider trading at the fund.

Then came the announcement that Cohen himself had been subpoenaed, and the previous announcement was interpreted to mean that he planned to take the Fifth rather than testify before a grand jury.

Now the rumor is that Cohen may be cutting a deal with the feds that would close the fund to outside investors altogether. This deal would include an admission of guilt on the part of SAC in exchange for deferred prosecution (meaning no criminal liability unless the firm were to break the law again).

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Contemplating ING US (VOYA)

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tt1254
      HF
 
 
(Orangutan, 328
 
Points)
 on 5/21/13 at 7:00am
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Ran into ING US (VOYA) while hunting for cheap price to book investments. It has turned into a bit more interesting than just that metric and indeed may be an aig-style investment.

A background:
ING US is a financial services company that until recently was part of the Dutch company ING Groep NV. It, like many global financial services companies, went to the brink of catastrophe in 2008 and more specifically received a $13.5B tarp-like capital injection from the the Dutch State. Since then, ING has been selling assets to repay the bailout, most recently with the IPO of ING US (to be renamed
VOYA Financial in 2014).

Key points of a long view here include: 1) forced selling by ING's parent 2) a stabilizing retirement, insurance & asset management business:

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What happened in the stock/bond markets last week (5/13-5/17)

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James Investmen...
     
 
 
(Monkey, 53
 
Points)
 on 5/21/13 at 6:00am
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Stock Market Analysis

Conclusions: The Dow and the S&P 500 hit new record highs last week. The Dow surged 1.6% while the S&P jumped 2%. The excitement extended to small cap stocks as well. In spite of the big jump in the indexes, only 19 stocks advanced for every 13 stocks that fell, however, 914 stocks hit new highs and only 74 hit new lows. In the words of Phil Robertson, everybody (but the bears) was “Happy, happy, happy.”

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