How Did You Know When You Made It?

I’ve seen so many posts on here bitch and moan about war stories or back to back to back all-nighters in the office prepping for a client meeting that ultimately didn’t happen or dealing with a huge jerkoff of a boss that I thought we could all talk about something a little more positive for our respective jobs. When did you know you actually belonged?

Wayne Gretzky was quoted early in his career as saying one of the greatest feelings playing in the NHL wasn't setting scoring records or receiving accolades but gaining that sense he belonged in the big leagues. As a teenager drafted to play in 1979, he didn't win his first Stanley Cup until 1984 but came in with pretty big expectations. Not to go off on too much of the “sports to business” tangent, but you could draw some parallels to a freshly minted ivy leaguer who joins a bank/pe fund/hedge fund as someone in a similar situation.

Did you ever have a moment that allowed you to really find that you’re in the right place and doing the right things?

I’ve had a few in my career. Early on, at any networking event I was definitely the awkward young guy that no one really wanted to talk to. Over time though as I made meaningful impacts in the work of others that are very highly respected in the industry I started to gain a reputation somewhat as a go-to guy here and there. Once I had the first deal close that I was working on, I think that might have been the best feeling in the world. I did something meaningful. I helped a guy cash out of his business and sold a great asset to a firm that might be able to really execute well on their strategy to grow going forward. That one is an easy one to pick out though.

A few years later I was invited to have a seat at the table of an off-site managing directors meeting to discuss firm strategy for the next 2-3 years. I didn't want to make myself look like an idiot so I figured I wouldn't have a prominent part here, just sit in and learn something. As it turns out they treated me like one of their own and seemed to genuinely value my thoughts on the various topics discussed. That was another great moment to remind myself that I’m making an impact.

What about all of you? Have you had similar stories where you pulled the rabbit out of the hat or had an otherwise amazing realization that you’re kicking some ass and people are actually taking notice of it? I would love to hear some positive victories in an otherwise high-pressure and high-stakes industry.

 
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Banker1234:

sitting on a private jet with just the pilots, flight attendants, me, the CEO and CFO of a large public company and my MD on my first roadshow... definitely felt like a boss

I'm glad the pilots were on the plane, they really make your story.

I no longer work in the corp fi, but there was one meeting that sticks out in my mind where I thought "shit, I guess I am a little more than a bump on a log around here". We had monthly meetings scheduled with our CFO, F50 company, where we would deliver our prior month financials and deliver the forecast for the coming month. Usually there were ~10 other people in the room (VP, 3 Directors, 3 Snr Managers, 3 Managers, and Me, the low senior analyst on the totem pole). I don't remember the circumstances, but all of the normal attendees dropped like flies from the meeting.So now it's basically me and my boss and the CFO left as the only attendees. Normally, I just sat in these meetings and occasionally uttered a few sentences when someone needed clarification on a particular item. Given my rank in the company I was just thrilled to be sitting in the room much less actually talking.

Anyway, my boss shoots a note to the CFO the day before our meeting and asks if they want to reschedule: "No, we need to meet". Two hours later my boss shoots me a note saying that he had a death in the family and can't make the meeting. His note said "You got this". I spent the rest of the afternoon and evening pouring over every square inch of our reports and taking extensive notes on anything I might have been asked. I probably played out the meeting in my head a dozen times while doing this. The next morning I met with the CFO 1on1 absolutely crushed it. It felt better than anything I have ever done in the business world. Our CFO told me I did a wonderful job and jokingly said that we might as well drop everyone else off of the invite list for future meetings. I felt like a fucking boss walking riding the elevator down from the "penthouse".

 
kingtut:

Anyway, my boss shoots a note to the CFO the day before our meeting and asks if they want to reschedule: "No, we need to meet". Two hours later my boss shoots me a note saying that he had a death in the family and can't make the meeting. His note said "You got this". I spent the rest of the afternoon and evening pouring over every square inch of our reports and taking extensive notes on anything I might have been asked. I probably played out the meeting in my head a dozen times while doing this. The next morning I met with the CFO 1on1 absolutely crushed it. It felt better than anything I have ever done in the business world. Our CFO told me I did a wonderful job and jokingly said that we might as well drop everyone else off of the invite list for future meetings. I felt like a fucking boss walking riding the elevator down from the "penthouse".

That's awesome. I love that feeling.

Getting a compliment like that from someone like that probably feels TOO good.

Commercial Real Estate Developer
 

well played.

kingtut:
Banker1234:

sitting on a private jet with just the pilots, flight attendants, me, the CEO and CFO of a large public company and my MD on my first roadshow... definitely felt like a boss

I'm glad the pilots were on the plane, they really make your story.

I no longer work in the corp fi, but there was one meeting that sticks out in my mind where I thought "shit, I guess I am a little more than a bump on a log around here". We had monthly meetings scheduled with our CFO, F50 company, where we would deliver our prior month financials and deliver the forecast for the coming month. Usually there were ~10 other people in the room (VP, 3 Directors, 3 Snr Managers, 3 Managers, and Me, the low senior analyst on the totem pole). I don't remember the circumstances, but all of the normal attendees dropped like flies from the meeting.So now it's basically me and my boss and the CFO left as the only attendees. Normally, I just sat in these meetings and occasionally uttered a few sentences when someone needed clarification on a particular item. Given my rank in the company I was just thrilled to be sitting in the room much less actually talking.

Anyway, my boss shoots a note to the CFO the day before our meeting and asks if they want to reschedule: "No, we need to meet". Two hours later my boss shoots me a note saying that he had a death in the family and can't make the meeting. His note said "You got this". I spent the rest of the afternoon and evening pouring over every square inch of our reports and taking extensive notes on anything I might have been asked. I probably played out the meeting in my head a dozen times while doing this. The next morning I met with the CFO 1on1 absolutely crushed it. It felt better than anything I have ever done in the business world. Our CFO told me I did a wonderful job and jokingly said that we might as well drop everyone else off of the invite list for future meetings. I felt like a fucking boss walking riding the elevator down from the "penthouse".

 

This is a great topic - definitely more fun to hear about than countless all nighters, etc.

I haven't had one at work yet, but I did in grad school. I did my MA in Geopolitics, in the UK (I'm from Socal). Who knows how I got into the school (the Global Studies dept was ranked in the top 3 in the UK, above Oxford/Cambridge), I had my doubts on how I would compete with people who went to undergrad at LSE/Oxford/Cambridge and was afraid I would be perceived as 'the dumb American'. After going through the first few discussions I started to loosen up a little with my comments. By midway through the first semester people from more 'prestigious' backgrounds were consulting me on their term paper topics and other things. I had someone from another program see me in a cafe (I didn't know who they were), and come up and ask, "Are you kostcoguy? Can I run an idea by you?" Somehow I gained the notoriety of being smart (which I'm certainly not, SAT 1110 [old SAT]). That's sort of when I felt like I belonged - when my opinion mattered and when people respected me. It really is a great feeling.

 
kostcoguy:

This is a great topic - definitely more fun to hear about than countless all nighters, etc.

I haven't had one at work yet, but I did in grad school. I did my MA in Geopolitics, in the UK (I'm from Socal). Who knows how I got into the school (the Global Studies dept was ranked in the top 3 in the UK, above Oxford/Cambridge), I had my doubts on how I would compete with people who went to undergrad at LSE/Oxford/Cambridge and was afraid I would be perceived as 'the dumb American'. After going through the first few discussions I started to loosen up a little with my comments. By midway through the first semester people from more 'prestigious' backgrounds were consulting me on their term paper topics and other things. I had someone from another program see me in a cafe (I didn't know who they were), and come up and ask, "Are you kostcoguy? Can I run an idea by you?" Somehow I gained the notoriety of being smart (which I'm certainly not, SAT 1110 [old SAT]). That's sort of when I felt like I belonged - when my opinion mattered and when people respected me. It really is a great feeling.

This doesn't belong here, please shut the fuck up and keep your academia non-sense out of a business thread. For fucks sake people!! Did you post this just to see yourself talk? "Masters in Geopolitics".. what a fucking joke

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watersign:
kostcoguy:

This is a great topic - definitely more fun to hear about than countless all nighters, etc.
I haven't had one at work yet, but I did in grad school. I did my MA in Geopolitics, in the UK (I'm from Socal). Who knows how I got into the school (the Global Studies dept was ranked in the top 3 in the UK, above Oxford/Cambridge), I had my doubts on how I would compete with people who went to undergrad at LSE/Oxford/Cambridge and was afraid I would be perceived as 'the dumb American'. After going through the first few discussions I started to loosen up a little with my comments. By midway through the first semester people from more 'prestigious' backgrounds were consulting me on their term paper topics and other things. I had someone from another program see me in a cafe (I didn't know who they were), and come up and ask, "Are you kostcoguy? Can I run an idea by you?" Somehow I gained the notoriety of being smart (which I'm certainly not, SAT 1110 [old SAT]). That's sort of when I felt like I belonged - when my opinion mattered and when people respected me. It really is a great feeling.

This doesn't belong here, please shut the fuck up and keep your academia non-sense out of a business thread. For fucks sake people!! Did you post this just to see yourself talk? "Masters in Geopolitics".. what a fucking joke

 

I had similar experiences in my Masters program to kostcoguy, and have had clients and other professionals confide in me from time to time, but I haven't quite had a 'fuck yeah, I own this shit' moment in a while.

Fun topic - would love to hear from others who have.

Array
 

Haven't "made it" yet, but I feel like I'm right on the cusp. I'm right there, staring across THE line, just needing to take another step. Incredibly frustrating but also incredibly exciting

I did set up a major meeting for my (regional) firm in NYC though with a client that would be game changing for us if we nail it. All of the principals were estatic, surprised, and thanking me up and down. I think if we get the account that'll be the moment for me

Commercial Real Estate Developer
 

Had only a a few moments like this. On my first deal, when the CEO sent my MD a note saying how impressed he was, and how much he appreciated my hard work in getting the marketing materials done in time. On my second deal, when the owner, after a brief discussion about sports cars, felt comfortable enough to hand me the keys to his special edition Ford Mustang Boss 302 and tell me to take it out for a spin. Of course, this was small in comparison to him letting me manage part of the process to sell his business... Sometimes you just have to enjoy the little things.

 
milehigh:

When I was:

biggie

Biggggie!!!

Lunches, brunches, interviews by the pooooooool!

Throw your hands in the aya if you's a true playyyyya! Luvvvvvvv Biggie!!!!

xoxo

[quote=Dirk Dirkenson]Shut up already. Your mindless, reflexive responses to any critical thought on this are tedious. You're also probably a woman, given the name and "xoxo" signoff, so maybe the lack of judgment is to be expected.[/quote]
 

Can't really pinpoint one event, but probably my 1,000th banana point or the certified user star.

"For I am a sinner in the hands of an angry God. Bloody Mary full of vodka, blessed are you among cocktails. Pray for me now and at the hour of my death, which I hope is soon. Amen."
 

I don't think I've made it yet... Not. Even. Close. Hopefully I will get there someday but I love hearing these stories!

xoxo

[quote=Dirk Dirkenson]Shut up already. Your mindless, reflexive responses to any critical thought on this are tedious. You're also probably a woman, given the name and "xoxo" signoff, so maybe the lack of judgment is to be expected.[/quote]
 
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notamonkey:

I knew I'd made it as soon as I figured out what a trust fund was

6th grade? I don't get it

That's why you're making $40k/year as an entry-level realtor

All I care about in life is accumulating bananas
 
notamonkey:

I knew I'd made it as soon as I figured out what a trust fund was

hahahaahah
"...the art of good business, is being a good middle man, putting people togeather. It's all about honor and respect."
 

I had that experience in reverse on my first "real" job. I had accepted a role in a commodity trading firm without really understanding what the role involved (had a more traditional offers in brokerage and a MM IB, but it sounded better to do something "different"). The night before my first day I was picked up at the airport by a black car, which drove my to a sick company appartment (rent was actually higher than my net salary). I felt like a king, like I had landed a sick job by some lucky twist of fate, until I realized the next day that my job was actually as BO as it gets (essentially the BO of a cost center in the company), and that I was probably one of the lowest paid employees in the company (and the car and appartment were strictly part of the company policy for all employees working abroad), cruel but enlightening reality check!

 

Nothing like a quick snapback to reality eh? Thanks for those that shared. Anyone else have a random/cool/awesome story?

corto maltese:

I had that experience in reverse on my first "real" job. I had accepted a role in a commodity trading firm without really understanding what the role involved (had a more traditional offers in brokerage and a MM IB, but it sounded better to do something "different"). The night before my first day I was picked up at the airport by a black car, which drove my to a sick company appartment (rent was actually higher than my net salary). I felt like a king, like I had landed a sick job by some lucky twist of fate, until I realized the next day that my job was actually as BO as it gets (essentially the BO of a cost center in the company), and that I was probably one of the lowest paid employees in the company (and the car and appartment were strictly part of the company policy for all employees working abroad), cruel but enlightening reality check!

 
clark49:

As an analyst i have had 2 "I know I've made it events" 1 being when the people at Starbucks started having my Vente ready for me each day and 2 when one of the people at the copy center opened up on her whole life story at 2AM while binding some pitchbooks for the 5th time.

this is the best one so far.

for me it was when i yelled at the poor guatemalan janitor who empties my wastebasket. made me feel big and powerful.

 
clark49:

As an analyst i have had 2 "I know I've made it events" 1 being when the people at Starbucks started having my Vente ready for me each day and 2 when one of the people at the copy center opened up on her whole life story at 2AM while binding some pitchbooks for the 5th time.

Similar experience for me, except trade the vente for a double espresso, and the copy center lady gave me the pass code to the binding room at midnight so that I could bind the books myself to help with her workload.

Another great moment though was when my boss bought me enough tequila shots to kill a rhino at the Christmas party (first Christmas party I might add, I'm still a 1st year) and I blacked out... showed up 3 hours late to work the next morning, looking and smelling like I had just crawled out of a dumpster, expecting to get fired, and instead the entire floor gave me a standing ovation, and my boss later stopped by my desk and said "good job hanging in there last night, I've made other people puke before with tequila." Started to like my boss a lot more after that.

I would agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.
 
rogersterling59:
clark49:

As an analyst i have had 2 "I know I've made it events" 1 being when the people at Starbucks started having my Vente ready for me each day and 2 when one of the people at the copy center opened up on her whole life story at 2AM while binding some pitchbooks for the 5th time.

Similar experience for me, except trade the vente for a double espresso, and the copy center lady gave me the pass code to the binding room at midnight so that I could bind the books myself to help with her workload.

Another great moment though was when my boss bought me enough tequila shots to kill a rhino at the Christmas party (first Christmas party I might add, I'm still a 1st year) and I blacked out... showed up 3 hours late to work the next morning, looking and smelling like I had just crawled out of a dumpster, expecting to get fired, and instead the entire floor gave me a standing ovation, and my boss later stopped by my desk and said "good job hanging in there last night, I've made other people puke before with tequila." Started to like my boss a lot more after that.

Now THAT is awesome.

Blue horseshoe loves Anacott Steel
 
rogersterling59:
clark49:

As an analyst i have had 2 "I know I've made it events" 1 being when the people at Starbucks started having my Vente ready for me each day and 2 when one of the people at the copy center opened up on her whole life story at 2AM while binding some pitchbooks for the 5th time.

Similar experience for me, except trade the vente for a double espresso, and the copy center lady gave me the pass code to the binding room at midnight so that I could bind the books myself to help with her workload.

I blacked out... showed up 3 hours late to work the next morning, looking and smelling like I had just crawled out of a dumpster.

i'm not above that

And so it goes
 

Apparently a lot of people made it really, really, really early...

xoxo

[quote=Dirk Dirkenson]Shut up already. Your mindless, reflexive responses to any critical thought on this are tedious. You're also probably a woman, given the name and "xoxo" signoff, so maybe the lack of judgment is to be expected.[/quote]
 

Working in operations at a Japanese bank/brokerage in my early 20s; one of my jobs was to, when system problems happen on the US side and our trades are affected, get an explanation from the US side so that we can make certain reports to the Japanese government about what went wrong, what was done to fix it, and what changes the US side has made to prevent the problem from reoccurring.

I spoke with several people on the US side and prepared a summary in Japanese for my boss, and my boss used that summary, verbatim, with no corrections needed for grammar, style, or anything. This is a country where people aren't used to immigrants or slightly non-native speech, and superiors will really nitpick you if your language isn't perfect, so it really felt like I'd "made it".

 

I'm a recent grad from a state school non-target. My goal was to simply get a job in finance, any job! I ended up getting an analyst job at a megafund HF as my first position. Took ~8-10 months of networking & interviewing I believe.

Do I like what I do - yes. Do I like my firm - yes. Can I say this is what I want to do with the rest of my life - hell no, I'm 20.

Did I make it - relative to my goal FUCK YES!

 

when i realized i was no longer dreaming of the life i wanted to live, but actually living that life... and then realizing time/location freedom

there was a day in seattle that one of my clients agreed to let work from abroad remotely (almost 3 years ago) and I realized even though it was only a small amount per month it was enough to live on in south america while looking to add on more clients

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I realized I made it when I looked out of the 23rd floor window of an office tower at a distant suburb where I worked some really dirty jobs 5 years earlier, and slept on a couch in a basement apartment. I remembered where I started, compared it to where I am, and realized that anything I achieve from now on is pure bonus.

Don't fall for bullshit, especially your own.
 
Mogambo:

I realized I made it when I looked out of the 23rd floor window of an office tower at a distant suburb where I worked some really dirty jobs 5 years earlier, and slept on a couch in a basement apartment. I remembered where I started, compared it to where I am, and realized that anything I achieve from now on is pure bonus.

Good stuff man. +1
I would agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.
 

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This to all my hatin' folks seeing me getting guac right now..
 

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