Somebody Just Went Hella Short the S&P...or Did They?

This is interesting. Yesterday around 11:57 am a series of options trades began to execute which culminated in a sphincter-puckering notional $2.8 Billion short on the S&P 500. It is widely believed that this is the reason the S&P went negative yesterday after opening in positive territory. So let's break the trade down and see if we can figure out what's actually going on here.

The Facts: Somebody bought 15,450 May 1995 S&P puts for $~132 apiece, or about $200 million total. In order for this bet to pay off, the S&P 500 has to be below 1,862 on May 16, 2014. So far he's looking pretty good. There are a couple of potential scenarios here.

Scenario 1: This guy thinks the S&P is about to tank. He bought deep-in-the-money puts, which means he's looking for a 1:1 (or very close to it) correlation between his options and the underlying futures. I'm not going to tell anyone their business, but there are more efficient (or at least less costly) ways to achieve the same bet. Which is what makes Scenario 2 the more likely to me.

Scenario 2: This guy is hedging, or neutralizing, a current position. Maybe his book got out of whack and this is something of a balancing transaction. I personally find this to be the more plausible explanation, simply due to the fact that if it were Scenario 1 he way overspent. And you simply don't associate inefficiency like that with somebody who's throwing a couple hundred million at a trade. At least I don't.

Needless to say, the trade was enough to throw a scare into the market yesterday, and it remains to be seen what it was really all about. I'd love to hear your theories. Is the market set to crash and somebody knows something? Or is this just another prop shop who fat-fingered a trade months ago and is now trying to sneak out of it?

What say you, WSO?

 

Might be a slight reach but could be somebody who has inside information on an impending international event which the market would take badly (Russia-Ukraine?) ? Parallels could be drawn to 9-11? Unlikely but you never know

 

FYI, it is the end of the quarter and investment managers/hedge funds may be positioning for 2014 forecasts. Your claim for scenario 1 could easily be destroyed by the quant models I look at becuase to be perfectly honest, sometimes inefficiency is the only solution to make sure the trade goes through effectively instead of tackling less liquid avenues which may ef up the entire transaction as a whole. This was kind of a stupid post since this could have been executed from a variety of Sell-Siders

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haha oh gotcha. I mean to be honest, the market taking a dip isn't really that unwarranted.. we just had a candy company IPO.. anyone above the age of 33 things this generation is spinning out of control.

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Soros has 11,12% of his total portfolio in SPY puts.

You killed the Greece spread goes up, spread goes down, from Wall Street they all play like a freak, Goldman Sachs 'o beat.
 

So then you may have answered your own question... with $2.8B to spend, they certainly should've known their other purchasing options. Makes me lean more towards Number 1. @"Edmundo Braverman" Great post and info!

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Well, my thoughts with scenario 2, depending on the risk situation, how large of a long position would this person have to have to "adjust" their hedge with a $2.8 billion position like this? (I know there are a lot of parameters, but it would definitely be a huge position to warrant such a large hedging position). Either way, I think the only prudent follow would be to sit back and watch this pan out.

"Decide what to be and go be it." - The Avett Brothers
 

Ohh ok. Gotcha. Should've caught that "notional" word when I read your post. Kind of like when you hear people talk about the total notional value of outstanding derivatives contracts being $70 trillion or whatever, but you have to stand back and think about what that actually entails. Thanks for clarifying, but yes, it is a huge move regardless.

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I love their idea of "we don't know much about the 1980's markets, or the 90's markets, but we know these markets and know how different they are..." WTF???

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I've tried to follow big options positions in the past and they never seem to pan out.

Is there some clue as to the fact that this isn't a hedge? I know you mention it as a possibility, but to me, a lay REPE guy, it seems much more plausible.

Please don't quote Patrick Bateman.
 
Edmundo Braverman:

Just didn't need to go so deep in the money. Could've bought puts much closer to spot for a lot less dough and achieved similar results.

But isn't that a little different of a trade? Isn't it possible they paid more for the different risk profile?

Though I think it is a hedge, what if someone really wanted to place a bet of this size? Does it make more sense to take this large position at one time and hope the publicity helps your cause? Or would someone generally be better served to spread the bet across different securities at different times?

 
Edmundo Braverman:
Tar Heel Blue:

Does it make more sense to take this large position at one time and hope the publicity helps your cause?

Man, for some reason this comment took me back to Roll 212 and Cramer getting busted teaching Aaron Task about fomenting:

Haha, a great watch every time. The fomenting discussion gets to the point I was trying to make. When you bring market psychology into the equation, the possible explanations would seem to change a little bit. As you said, there are other ways to go about that trade, but would they generate the same interest? Would we be talking about this right now?
 

I'm wondering what is going on with this Cefaratti kid... supposedly been with both of their "hedge funds" in North Carolina, but his LinkedIn profile says that he was studying Financial Mathematics at both UPenn and LSE in 2012... oh yeah, and an acting gig from age 8-18. I guess I should update mine to reflect my couple of years with NASA, stunt doubling for Vin Diesel, and finishing grad school with a PhD in Econ from Oxford all while living here in Florida...

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wareagle4230:

I'm wondering what is going on with this Cefaratti kid... supposedly been with both of their "hedge funds" in North Carolina, but his LinkedIn profile says that he was studying Financial Mathematics at both UPenn and LSE in 2012... oh yeah, and an acting gig from age 8-18. I guess I should update mine to reflect my couple of years with NASA, stunt doubling for Vin Diesel, and finishing grad school with a PhD in Econ from Oxford all while living here in Florida...

This Cerfaratti is a total pussy compared to jeffrey chiang

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Thanks for showing me that... hadn't gotten to the Chiang thread yet. I like his style with the fake email follow up with Ms. Park from BAML --- "Just shoot me back an email when you can." What a douche.

"Decide what to be and go be it." - The Avett Brothers
 

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