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It doesn't sound like a threat as much as it does an announcement to take subsequent action. You have very shaky legal basis at best. Unless he or she threw in some comment about you that would be considered "protected" (your gender, religion, etc.), you've got nothing except a he-said, she-said type of situation (in which case the part that HE said is likely 100% legal!).

Ultimately if you're trying to gain admission to a top B-school I'm not quite sure why you're stirring the pot like you are. I like stirring the pot...but just not a great strategy if you're trying to get admitted to these same schools you're trashing in email.

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I think the school can do pretty much whatever the F it wants. There was a Supreme Court case about white students being denied admission at Michigan when other "worse" students of color were admitted, but that's atypical and the claimants spent years of their lives thinking about it.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_class

Am I reading this correctly? You're talking shit about the school online and then you had a meeting with some administrator who is pissed off about your comments (and knows it was you commenting)? If I am reading this correctly, how exactly were you expecting them to react? If I'm not, what did you do?

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SirTradesaLot:

Am I reading this correctly? You're talking shit about the school online and then you had a meeting with some administrator who is pissed off about your comments (and knows it was you commenting)? If I am reading this correctly, how exactly were you expecting them to react? If I'm not, what did you do?

I am not talking shit online. I addressed it to the administrators over email. They weren't very nice during the meeting, which I understand given that I made a big deal out of it by emailing higher ups when in retrospect, I should have only emails to the people I know meet face to face on regular basis.

DictatorCloudy:

STIBOR:

I think the school can do pretty much whatever the F it wants. There was a Supreme Court case about white students being denied admission at Michigan when other "worse" students of color were admitted, but that's atypical and the claimants spent years of their lives thinking about it.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_class

Hmm I just want to figure out on what basis the school is making exceptions? And why I was not informed about this.

Doesn't seem like a threat, it seems like a fact. He's not going to accept you. There's nothing you can do about it.

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DictatorCloudy:

STIBOR:

DictatorCloudy:

STIBOR:

I think the school can do pretty much whatever the F it wants. There was a Supreme Court case about white students being denied admission at Michigan when other "worse" students of color were admitted, but that's atypical and the claimants spent years of their lives thinking about it.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_class

Hmm I just want to figure out on what basis the school is making exceptions? And why I was not informed about this.

Yeah I guess I'm just not convinced they need a basis for anything, and am also not sure they need to proactively reach out to you and tell you about decisions they make.

Yes I agree with you on the latter half of your comment. They don't need to proactively reach out. However, when I asked them why the exception had been made, for one case they said it was personal (so I understand that they won't share it) and for another case they mentioned that the other student had been given a "non-major" student treatment. However, it is very clear that is intends to major in business, which does not give him a "non-major" status.

So in all honesty it sounds like you were kind of loud/abrasive with this school represemtative and he is trying to blackball you. Turning this into a legal thing is a bad idea. You have no basis for a legal claim and you're going to become the kid who threatened his school, which could potentially blackball you from other circles in addition to this one. Best advice is to shift to damage control mode, and send a letter to the administrator apologizing and pointing out that you're working on the deficient areas he's identified.

DictatorCloudy:

SirTradesaLot:

Doesn't seem like a threat, it seems like a fact. He's not going to accept you. There's nothing you can do about it.

Like I mentioned before, I already gained admission to their general program. Oh you know goddamn well that I am going to do something about it if I am given unfair treatment during the application process for this program that I am applying for. Would it help that the institution as a whole had been burned by a scandal about unfair treatment recently?

STIBOR:

DictatorCloudy:

STIBOR:

DictatorCloudy:

STIBOR:

I think the school can do pretty much whatever the F it wants. There was a Supreme Court case about white students being denied admission at Michigan when other "worse" students of color were admitted, but that's atypical and the claimants spent years of their lives thinking about it.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_class

Hmm I just want to figure out on what basis the school is making exceptions? And why I was not informed about this.

Yeah I guess I'm just not convinced they need a basis for anything, and am also not sure they need to proactively reach out to you and tell you about decisions they make.

Yes I agree with you on the latter half of your comment. They don't need to proactively reach out. However, when I asked them why the exception had been made, for one case they said it was personal (so I understand that they won't share it) and for another case they mentioned that the other student had been given a "non-major" student treatment. However, it is very clear that is intends to major in business, which does not give him a "non-major" status.

So in all honesty it sounds like you were kind of loud/abrasive with this school represemtative and he is trying to blackball you. Turning this into a legal thing is a *bad* idea. You have no basis for a legal claim and you're going to become the kid who threatened his school, which could potentially blackball you from other circles in addition to this one. Best advice is to shift to damage control mode, and send a letter to the administrator apologizing and pointing out that you're working on the deficient areas he's identified.

STIBOR:

DictatorCloudy:

STIBOR:

DictatorCloudy:

STIBOR:

I think the school can do pretty much whatever the F it wants. There was a Supreme Court case about white students being denied admission at Michigan when other "worse" students of color were admitted, but that's atypical and the claimants spent years of their lives thinking about it.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_class

Hmm I just want to figure out on what basis the school is making exceptions? And why I was not informed about this.

Yeah I guess I'm just not convinced they need a basis for anything, and am also not sure they need to proactively reach out to you and tell you about decisions they make.

Yes I agree with you on the latter half of your comment. They don't need to proactively reach out. However, when I asked them why the exception had been made, for one case they said it was personal (so I understand that they won't share it) and for another case they mentioned that the other student had been given a "non-major" student treatment. However, it is very clear that is intends to major in business, which does not give him a "non-major" status.

So in all honesty it sounds like you were kind of loud/abrasive with this school represemtative and he is trying to blackball you. Turning this into a legal thing is a *bad* idea. You have no basis for a legal claim and you're going to become the kid who threatened his school, which could potentially blackball you from other circles in addition to this one. Best advice is to shift to damage control mode, and send a letter to the administrator apologizing and pointing out that you're working on the deficient areas he's identified.

Yes, I am definitely bending at the moment. Not trying to put any legal charges or anything. I already apologized to the administrator; however, I am not sure how to kiss ass from this point on to make up for it. I would imagine it's not a good idea to keep probing about it, so I am not. Any recommendations on how to fix this shit?

SirTradesaLot:

DictatorCloudy:

SirTradesaLot:

Doesn't seem like a threat, it seems like a fact. He's not going to accept you. There's nothing you can do about it.

Like I mentioned before, I already gained admission to their general program. Oh you know goddamn well that I am going to do something about it if I am given unfair treatment during the application process for this program that I am applying for. Would it help that the institution as a whole had been burned by a scandal about unfair treatment recently?

What was so unfair? I mean, a lot of kids with 4.0 GPAs and perfect SAT scores get turned down for admission at some places.

It's not about the unfairness anymore. I just don't like how they are threatening me and putting all the blame on me for bringing up the issues that I observe and assume wrong based on some of the rules I know they enforce on other students. I understand that it's my fault for being rash and kind of arrogant in believing that I deserve an answer from them and their superiors, so I apologized for that. They seemed to have calmed down, but like mentioned above, I don't want to get blackballed and I will retaliate given the situation.

You should drop this. Even if you were treated unfairly, there is nothing you can do about it short of lawyering up (that's assuming you have the time or resources). And I doubt you could show anything that would hold up in a court of law.

EDIT: ok, I see you've decided to drop it. All I think you can do at this point is write apology letters to everybody involved and apologize profusely in person.

Ipso facto:

You should drop this. Even if you were treated unfairly, there is nothing you can do about it short of lawyering up (assuming you have the time or resources). And I doubt you could show anything that would hold up in a court of law.

How do you propose I react if in the future, I feel unfairly treated during the process?

Ipso facto:

Honestly, I don't know the specifics of your situation, but if you are treated unfairly in the process, you'll probably have to suck it up. You can raise hell, but the school certainly won't care unless you take it to court. And if you do, it's a losing battle unless you have a solid body of evidence. And then what?

Okay, so the best course of action is to reconcile/kiss ass. I've already emailed each individual involved in the situation and the higher ups accepted my apologies. However, should I write a hand-written letter to the each of the direct superiors that I had crossed? The two direct superiors have the most influence in deciding the outcome of my application. To be honest, I've always been very strongly opinionated person and I learned from this mistake of being rash and being idealistic. However, I have never had any relevant exp on how to reconcile in these cases. Please give me any solid advice on how to kiss ass/deal with the situation.