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A FT analyst hating on me - what to do about it?
 

Rijsel's picture
 
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 on 7/14/12 at 1:03am
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Okay fellow monkeys, I could really use your advice regarding some office politics.
I joined my team as a summer analyst about two weeks ago. What’s specific about my team is that it comprises only a few professionals – two analysts, an associate who effectively assumes the responsibilities of a director, two directors, one MD and a “capo di tutti capi” – head of the local IBD division of my bank.

So everyone’s vote will matter in deciding whether I get an offer or not, right?

Well if so, then I’m to be shit out of luck… I’ve got good reasons to believe that one of the analysts really hates me. I dare to say I’m delivering high-quality work (as commented on by the people I've run errands for), show enthusiastic and pro-active attitude... And yet, I cannot seem to get along all too well with this guy. I don’t know if he’s competing against me or something. He’s exactly my age and graduated from a target uni, whereas I have not. I’m usually in a good mood and tend to enjoy female attention – some news have already slipped out. He’s also a good few inches shorter than me (a detail a friend of mine from outside the intern class brought up and named as relevant).

Now, given the headcount, there’s gonna be just three offers distributed among 18 interns split among different groups within the bank. Competition is fierce and I’m afraid to what extent this may affect my chances of converting the summer stint into a FT offer. From my limited experience: broken relationships cannot be easily repaired, so there’s no talk about “making things up” to this dude.

And if not, is there anything I can do?

Vi's picture

A lesson you should learn

IB
(Orangutan, 305
 
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 on 7/13/12 at 2:39pm

A lesson you should learn early on in your career: You can't please everyone, so don't try to. I'm not telling you to be a dick to this guy. You sound like you are doing everything right, which is good attitude, good work product, proactive. Your summer is winding down, just keep the good work up and your head down, but not literally because then people will start talking, if you know what I mean.

BigHedgeHog's picture

easy - start applying for

(Baboon, 123
 
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 on 7/13/12 at 2:56pm

easy - start applying for jobs at other banks

FutureWaller's picture

Three letters... S.O.L.

O
 
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 on 7/13/12 at 3:26pm

Three letters... S.O.L.

juniormistmaker's picture

They're probably put-off

IB
(Baboon, 135
 
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 on 7/13/12 at 3:30pm

They're probably put-off because they can't understand the emails you send to them.....

Otherwise, ask them to grab a coffee or something and try and build rapport. As mentioned above, you can't please everyone though.

adapt or die's picture

Rijsel: I’m usually in a

(King Kong, 1,263
 
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 on 7/13/12 at 4:00pm
Rijsel:

I’m usually in a good mood and tend to enjoy female attention – some news have already slipped out.

wtf does this mean??

In reply to adapt or die
whatwhatwhat's picture

adapt or die: Rijsel: I’m

HF
(King Kong, 1,429
 
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 on 7/13/12 at 4:04pm
adapt or die:
Rijsel:

I’m usually in a good mood and tend to enjoy female attention – some news have already slipped out.

wtf does this mean??

It means that he's clueless and thinks that the FT analyst is automatically jealous of him when it could just be some random fuck ups that he's unaware of.

JDimon's picture

Yeah I mean you said you're

(Orangutan, 258
 
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 on 7/13/12 at 4:07pm

Yeah I mean you said you're already being proactive, but maybe all you can try is being more proactive haha. It sound like he maybe won't like you inviting him to the bars, but maybe find away to end up at the bars with him? I think it can be easier to bond with other junior folk over alcohol (just don't get too drunk yourself and say anything stupid to him)

There is already a book on you. That book is already being written. And if I talked to your friends, your teachers, your professionals, your family, I would know so much about you I wouldn't even have to meet you. You write the book the way you want to be

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seville's picture

whatwhatwhat: adapt or

 
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 on 7/13/12 at 4:18pm
whatwhatwhat:
adapt or die:
Rijsel:

I’m usually in a good mood and tend to enjoy female attention – some news have already slipped out.

wtf does this mean??

It means that he's clueless and thinks that the FT analyst is automatically jealous of him when it could just be some random fuck ups that he's unaware of.

Wow, great answer.

In reply to whatwhatwhat
JDimon's picture

whatwhatwhat: adapt or

(Orangutan, 258
 
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 on 7/13/12 at 4:30pm
whatwhatwhat:
adapt or die:
Rijsel:

I’m usually in a good mood and tend to enjoy female attention – some news have already slipped out.

wtf does this mean??

It means that he's clueless and thinks that the FT analyst is automatically jealous of him when it could just be some random fuck ups that he's unaware of.

Haha this is actually a really good point

There is already a book on you. That book is already being written. And if I talked to your friends, your teachers, your professionals, your family, I would know so much about you I wouldn't even have to meet you. You write the book the way you want to be

brianklk's picture

Can you just bypass the

O
(Baboon, 137
 
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 on 7/13/12 at 6:50pm

Can you just bypass the analysts and work/communicate directly with the directors and higher ups?

If you can impress the higher ups, the analyst opinions don't mean shit.

Born in hell, forged from suffering, hardened by pain.

Ricqles's picture

you are pretty screwed to be

O
(King Kong, 1,271
 
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 on 7/13/12 at 7:03pm

you are pretty screwed to be honest. Believe it or not, analyst has a lot to say in your review because he IS the one who works with you. Director will likely trust his judgement over you. And no, bypassing the analyst to go to the director or associate is a horrible idea and you will likely deliver work they dont want.

time to look for a job

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Rijsel's picture

Oh boi

 
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 on 7/13/12 at 8:09pm

Oh boi

Bob123321's picture

Start ass kissing now .

(Chimp, 15
 
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 on 7/14/12 at 2:31am

Start ass kissing now .

In reply to Ricqles
Rijsel's picture

Ricqles: you are pretty

 
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 on 7/14/12 at 5:09am
Ricqles:

you are pretty screwed to be honest. Believe it or not, analyst has a lot to say in your review because he IS the one who works with you. Director will likely trust his judgement over you. And no, bypassing the analyst to go to the director or associate is a horrible idea and you will likely deliver work they dont want.

time to look for a job

Fortunately, I'm working 99% of the time with the OTHER analyst - who seems happy with my efforts. And no, I'm not foolish enough to try to bypass the hierarchy. Also, it looks like I managed to make friends with a very popular Director (soon to be M.D.) from another team with which mine cooperates very closely. He already sent around the 'I like this kid' e-mail around some senior people - if I keep up there's a chance he might put in a good word for me, no?

But yeah, not to be delusional... as soon as the application process starts...

BanditPandit's picture

Lol analysts don't really

O
 
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 on 7/14/12 at 4:56pm

Lol analysts don't really care about making friends...they care about getting shit done on time and done accurately. No time in the day for anything else. There is nothing an An appreciates more than leaving 30 minutes earlier without worrying about any SA fuck-ups on their work.

Also, "showing enthusiastic and pro-active attitude" != adding value. Don't ever try to bullshit your way around an An, fluff doesn't fly. I don't care if you're overly curious and nice and shit, in fact I'd be thinking you're trying to hide something. From your language, seems like you're ignoring any negatives you've faced so far in your SA (and don't lie to yourself, no SA has a perfect run). If you understand whatwhatwhat's saying, you'll help yourself a lot more...

Don't EVER try to:
- Bypass your immediate supervisor (An): "MD-interaction" comments you read on here are mostly bullshit. All you do is look down at your keyboard. Look up when told so.
- You don't get paid to think, you don't get paid to talk, you get paid to do at this level, especially as an SA. Examine your work. If you're good, your work speaks for yourself.
- "Networking on the job" should never be forced.

jpmoranmonkeysachs's picture

sleep with him?

(Baboon, 149
 
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 on 7/14/12 at 5:36pm
In reply to whatwhatwhat
-caP1taL1sm..'s picture

whatwhatwhat: adapt or

IB
(Baboon, 164
 
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 on 7/14/12 at 6:49pm
In reply to BanditPandit
Rijsel's picture

BanditPandit: Lol analysts

 
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 on 7/14/12 at 8:38pm

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