IBM Consulting vs. Accenture
Hey Everyone,
I have been offered full-time by IBM Consulting By Degrees (Rotation begins with Strategy) in NY and Accenture Systems Integration LA. My goals are to work in strategy consulting and eventually attend top 10 b-school. I am currently leaning towards IBM, but would anyone have any advice?
Also, Accenture is offering much higher base salary, how negotiable is the salary? And how should one go about this professionally?
Thank you for your help!
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Summer Internship : Accenture or IBM (Originally Posted: 03/16/2012)
I got two management consulting summer internship positions with Accenture Management Consulting Development Program and IBM GBS both at Houston Texas. The pay is almost the same. I like to know which would be better for me if I plan to try for the top 3 consulting firms (BCG, Bain and McKinsey) for a full time job.
I'm thinking Accenture will be the one to be most beneficial in the long run.
congrats! well screw ibm indeed...
Why screw IBM? Do you have any good technical reason or you personally do not like IBM?
Accenture without a doubt. I've seen a few people jump from there (internship or 1 year full-time) to MBB. Never seen anyone from IBM.
That being said, I think IBM would be a fascinating place to be long-term. But if you're looking for a bridge to either MBB or to something else after a few years, then Accenture is probably the way to go.
^being said, ibm is a long term comfortable career but not so exciting...
Depends on the department; IBM has an internal Venture Capital Group and allots funds for employees with start-up ideas. Watson was one of those projects with a couple million in internal funding and is now a billion dollar projected revenue business.
Accenture trains you better for a pure management consultant perspective. They have the up-or-out system, more well defined teams and processes, and more strategy if you're in MCDP. Doesn't it have pretty high B-school placement as well? As opposed to IBM, which doesn't encourage B-school.
IBM gives you more flexibility in choosing the type of projects you want, and they actively rotate you for two years so you see which industry/specialization you like the most. It's more of a long-term sort of thing than Accenture.
Just my .02
Oh, and Accenture sucks ;) (just had to say that)
Accenture MCDP or IBM CBD S&T (Originally Posted: 11/12/2012)
I have full time offers from both Accenture (Management Consulting Development Program) and IBM (Consulting by Degrees, Strategy and Transformation).
Accenture: Pro: good training program, valuable experience right out of undergrad Con: up or out culture, work you pretty hard, they say it's "rotational" but you have to network somewhat intensely to switch groups
IBM Pro: more laid back culture, people tend to stay longer that your typical 2/3 years Con: the practice is still developing, tech heavy
1) I'm able to find information on Accenture but not so much on IBM. How does IBM look when applying for MBA?
2) I know much of the experience depends on how you actually perform on the job, but which would you pick?
Go for Accenture. Its good for your MBA app and you get to work with some really smart people. I worked with MCDP during my earlier engagement.
I will simply echo what I was told by an ex-IBM strat consultant: strat / management consultants at IBM do not do management consulting, they do pre-sales. I was told that he had been asked more than once to discontinue a project they were heading for because it would not result in HW sales.
You could argue that ACN consultants are also conflicted, but a big difference is that the mandate for ACN MC is to build a reputation for good, pure consulting. At a company level of course the cash comes from SI/Outsourcing, but at a group level MC is left do to MC - that's the ACN brand strategy.
Accenture Systems Integration or IBM Supply Chain Strategy (Originally Posted: 11/16/2010)
Hi All, I'm new to this message board and am curious on your thoughts on the following opportunities. If given the opportunity, would you choose Accenture Systems Integration (IT consulting/implementation/public sector) or IBM Supply Chain Mgmt Consulting (Public sector). Thanks for the input.
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