Are Ear Piercings Appropriate for BB IBD Analysts?!!
I have 2 piercings (1 on cartilage, 1 on ear lobe).
I'll be starting in a BB in NYC for full time and I was wondering if it is appropriate for work. Should I swap the rings to less flashy pins, or do I have to keep them off at all times?
My cartilage one hasn't recovered yet so if I remove it it'll close for sure..personally i really liek this one..is it crucial that I remove it or is it ok as long as I don't wear them to client meetings?
(im a guy)
You've got to be kidding...
No - your piercings (both locations) are not appropriate. Even with a girl, a non-traditional piercing such as on the cartilage would look bad.
take it out
KYS
fuck...are u serious
uh...yea serious as prison rape which is where you're headed looking like that son
Man up you pussy and take them out.
how the fk did u get an offer with a piercing?
Id insta ding anyone with a piercing or a tatoo.
This is banking not hells angels, douchebag.
This was awesome.
man, you're so hard you got me hard.
I have a tattoo and work at a Megafund. I'm glad everyone isn't as conformist and dogmatic as you are
I actually have 5, but they aren't visible. I agree with you 100%.
Um... You just cover them up. I have my ear pierced and multiple tattoos and got more than one BB offer. With a suit on and the earring out noone gives a shit.
.... .... ....
Aren't you the kid who was preaching about old vs new money, polo playing, prestige, etc? And talking about feeling pressured to pursue the most prestigious financial career path because your "snooty," Ivy League" family (despite you being Canadian, apparently) would make you feel bad if you didn't?
Doesn't really compute with tattoos and earrings. Unless you were adopted from a cannibal tribe or something.
Credit Suisse have specific presentations for trans-gendered candidates. Why don't you ask on of those dudes?
you can hang out with the skinny tie kid
for real? you're going into an IBD at a BB and you don' t know the answer to this question?
I'm not hating on the ear piercings (I've been known to have them at one point my life), but don't bring that shit to work, its not college.
Hey you guys can't really blame me for not knowing. I actually got 2 of my BB offers not remembering to take off my earings on the superdays (I always forget since I always switch it on and off)
Assuming everyone at superday saw me with earings and gave me the offer, I had every reason to believe it "might" be appropriate
There you go
No way those piercings are appropriate. Get rid of them.
Take said earring Stab jugular with earring bleed out
This.
I can't believe some of the questions on this site....this is almost as bad as the guy who asked if it was cool to bring a handgun to work because it was an open-carry state or something. I swear you people are fucking delusional. No, it is not okay to wear earrings to a fucking bulge bracket bank. Do you really want to be that guy? It's not okay to wear earrings if you're a man, period. This includes Harrison Ford, who should really cut that shit out.
I wore mine studs once over my SA stint on a 'casual' Friday. My boss laughed at me and the gay admin hit on me.
OMG weird! I forgot to take out my belly button ring and wore a mid drift on casual fri! Same thing happened!
just sad
Why on earth are you wearing earrings in the first place? What happened to the days when a man was a man and not a guy that likes to be part girl?!?
Regards
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Exactly.
P.S. I like the quote in your signature.
Regards
this ^. you're going into the wrong profession...
I got two piercings last Tuesday
Totally appropriate and highly recommended.
Can i sag my pants.... i wore it to my SA interview and I still got the offer.... are you kidding me dude?
I'm shocked he didn't get instadinged for earrings...go figure.
Shit, is it that fucking easy to get in from a target school?
I blame the parents.
Sadly... All of you guys are wrong.
It makes no difference whether Yung Gotti takes off his clit jewelry. Nobody will say shit to him about it.
Asking him to do so would expose a BB to a discrimination suit, the same way telling a broad with kankles and a pack of franks for a neck that she's not FO material b/c clients would actually have to look at her.
You're golden cream puff, live the dream.
I don't know which bank you worked at, but this is not true at the BB I worked for less than 5 years ago.
Leave the earrings at home.
oh bankbank "which bank you worked at," lol
edit
leave the earrings at home until you get 1st year bonus and baller PE offer. then put them back in and show up at noon everyday.
buy side, strong side. haha
Gotdamnit! Where's the fucking "like" button?! This is awesome MMM!
And SB for both of you. Glad there are some sensible people on here.
I wouldn't rock the earrings, but thats more preference. I dont see you actually like getting in trouble or told not to wear them or anything though.
And somebody mentioned tattoos. You can wear long sleeves to work everyday for the rest of your life. The only way anybody I work with is seeing my tattoos is if we go on vacation together. And im not planning on that ever.
As long as you wear square toe shoes, suspenders, and a skinny tie you'll be good...also I hear good will is having a sale on purple velvet suits...definately right up your alley
Also, nothing says bull market like a bull ring in your nose.
Go for broke dude, get a rainbow colored punkrocker mohawk and cruise up to the interview on a skateboard.
So being half-black makes piercings/ink okay? Damn affirmative action, DAMN
I wonder which poster has the most tats on WSO
Just get your right ear pierced so you don't have to bother with telling people you're a faggot.
stop having sand in your vagina guys, covered tattoos and ear rings out were obv. not included in my post.
people on this site can't comprehend a guy wearing an earring. but then again, they probably thought it was cool to smoke and have long hair and rise harley davidson motorcycles when they were young (I can also make ridiculous social stereotypical analogies)
I wore both earrings to all of my interviews after asking on this site if i should take them out. everyone said yes take them out but i didn't. out of 3 interviews, I received 3 second round interviews.
When I posted this topic they made stupid jersey shore references and stuff like that and just said I had no style. I dont think it is appropriate for the analyst stint but in general, a guy wearing an earring is perfectly fine. (i have both ears pierced and so do most of my friends. they all got numerous offers and we go to an ivy league school. they have no reflection of personality)
Wow. I am happy to say I have never seen such a clan. Another benefit of avoiding the Union states, perhaps.
And I don't know anyone who thought it was cool to ride a harley and have long hair, at any age. Sounds like a meth lab employee/vietnam vet who searches the on-ramp for cigarette butts.
Good one. In no way is a man wearing earrings "perfectly fine."
right. says who...you? in fact, during my one interview at BlackRock the interviewer notcied mine and brought them up (i had forgotten to take them out so i thought he was going to ding me) and said that he used to have his in too before he started working. and he was like 30
hahaha, yikes... are most of your friends female shopping buddies?
Act like a MAN you androgynous bastard!
^ I did not go to an ivy and am judged by different standards. I still broke in, but it's not the same for you guys.
I also have a tat but its not visible. I love the people on this board who say earrings are "gay"...seriously you guys are such jerk-offs. I guess anyone who doesnt wear khakis and a blue brooks brothers shirt isnt conformist enough to hang with you guys...sounds like we have a really fun crowd here on WSO!
However, on the original subject, I agree that a 22 year old analyst shouldnt wear earrings...down the road if you have been successful and earned respect then you can pop back in the earrings and people will think you are "eccentric" but at age 22 you just look like someone who doesnt understand the culture in the office. Not sure if MMM is right about the legal aspect, but I think it just isnt right for a young employee...you have to show respect and dress in the herd mentality when you are at work until you have earned enuff respect to have your own style.
completely agree. thank you for also seeing my point. I am not the op but i posted a few posts earlier about the people on this site and how everything is so stupid or gay, such as earrings and tatoos. i swear all of the people on this site were losers in college and never had any friends or had sex with girls. contrary to popular belief, college girls do not like balding guys who wear khakis and button ups all the time.
Dude, you have to be THE worse person at making a point ever! So some guys think wearing earrings is a girl thing (mostly because the only people who wore them when we were growing up were our moms and sisters) and we are somehow losers? The fact is, earrings on men aren't stylish and they don't look cool, you just think you look cool/hard/badass. And guess what...I've never wore an earring in my life and I'm not bald and I don't wear khakis and button ups all the time and I've had sex with women. Is that what your campus looks like? Half the people are cool with earrings and the rest look like George Costanza?
Do you also have a dream catcher hanging over your jewelry box because I just wanted to let you know that a dream catcher only works if your dream is to be gay as fuck.
Regards
I'm guessing dolphins frolicking on the small of your back. Am I close?
Why is the Situation and Pauly D on this board. I'd much wear khakis and polos than jersey shore shit
its not like the only two options are khakis and polos and "jersey shore shit"...
Whether or not earrings are "cool" or not is irrelevent. I dont have my ears pierced and I never have. But people who make a big deal of saying that earrings are "gay" or for "girls" are being tools. Some people like to be a bit more creative with their style and its nothing you need to be scared of or offended by. And while I cant speak to anything but my own experience, guys who dress in "the uniform" (khakis, polos, etc) tend to have a hard time getting laid after a certain age...most really attractive women are not interested in a guy who dresses in a way that screams "I am boring". Maybe this isnt true in other places, but where I live and go out to meet girls it definitely is...
I didn't realize that an earring counted as 'creative style' and I didn't realize that chicks sleep with guys because of what they wear. My roommate rocks khakis and polos non-stop and this guy's bedroom is like a revolving door...it's almost as though the girls care more about his looks and personality than the clothes he has on. Please note that he doesn't wear an earring either.
I also think purses are for girls too but I guess chicks might like a guy who is creative enough to wear one of those too. What do I know, I'm not a fashion expert.
Regards
I met a PE guy at a conference in NYC. He rocks a pink mohawk. Thats when you know you dont give a fuck
I'm not really sure I agree with the "earrings = cool" or "no earrings = you didn't have sex or friends in college" sentiment, but whatever floats your boat. Maybe it's different for azn breakdancers than for white guys at ivy league schools.
To be honest, if I was interviewing a kid and he was wearing an earring to the interview, I would ding the shit out of him, even if he was a 4.0 from MIT who led his own leveraged buyout as a high school student. No matter what your point of view is on men and jewelry, it shows poor judgment/attitude/maturity to wear that to an investment banking interview. Anything you do to make me question your judgment, attitude or maturity is going to get you dinged.
This thread reminds me of this:
some of you guys are tools... I was a body piercer so I had almost everything pierced at one point (not much else to do in a tattoo shop when you're bored). And would somebody seriously ding somebody if they had a concealable tattoo? Please tell me the majority of the people I want to work with in the future aren't as closed minded as these people. I could understand people getting annoyed at a question like this, but so much hate over a little piece of metal in the ear? get over yourself.
This is all relative. While most don't wear it or wear where it's not seen. I knew an MD who had an ear piercing (large one too). Of course he's an MD, but it demonstrated the culture, so i am sure an analyst wouldn't be looked down upon that much. Do expect some questions and maybe making fun of. And saying that you like it is usually not good enough reason. Definitely, take them off during client meetings because the last thing you want is someone saying that the reason you didn't get the business is because of your piercing.
My advice is don't wear it and avoid any trouble, but some bank cultures might look at it differently, so if it matters a lot to you, you can probably get a way with it.
A concealable tatoo wouldn't be a ding unless you tell the interviewer. You are probably wearing a suit and they can't see the tatoo. Concealable tatoos aren't an issue, they aren't visible. But when you look like you just came from the face painting booth at the carnival, there is a problem.
I don't have an earring, but I would take it out. You have a better chance of getting dinged with it than without it. You goal should be to look professional during an interview. More often than not an earring at an interview may be construed as unprofessional. When you have the job, do whatever you want within the policies of the company.
Is it okay that I had my scrotum pierced?
god everyone in banking is such a boring conformist loser
yup. pretty much.
Haven't been reading the thread, only the title....But piercings are only appropriate for women, black men and latino men.
Really so I'm white because I am clean cut no piercings and no tattoos make me white? Good one.
Yes. All black men definitely have piercings and tattoos and are not clean cut. That's completely what I'm implying here....
But really, I think black guys pull off an earring off better than white guys. Kevin Garnett wearing an earring = cool. Aaron Rogers wearing an earring = not cool. That's just my opinion.
I can see the Op going in the first day with his piercings out and then later getting let go as they weren't hiring the URM they thought they were. Way to go guys, you just got the poor bastard fired.
why did this thread go on so long?
bottom lines:
-wearing visible tattoos or earrings (for guys) into banking interviews is a bad idea. don't do this if you are trying to get the job. at worst you get the interviewer who wants to call you a faggot and punch you. at best you get the guy who doesn't give a fuck about your personal style but views the visible earring/tatt as a lack of judgment on your part. also don't tell an interviewer that you have earrings or covered tatts
-likewise if you are just starting as an analyst or associate (or if you are starting a new banking job at almost any level, unless you are vice chairman or frank quattrone). if you are new to the job, no earrings or visible tattoos
-wearing earrings or visible tattoos in a banking or similar finance job will, in almost all cases, not help your career. at best it will be neutral. a big part of advancing in these careers is politics and perception. as evidenced by the majority of posters on this board, a lot of people in finance do not look kindly upon this and it will cause some people at the bank (and some will be your superiors making bonus/promotion decisions) to view you in a more negative light. if you are a rockstar employee with a couple years of experience/credibility at your job, you can probably put your earring back in and get away with it, but, again, it will not help your career. (also, the degree to which it is negative for your career will vary depending on where you work, e.g., worse for you at a place like Goldman than say a place like CS).
finally, and these are just opinions and not "bottom lines," the posts on this thread about people being gay and what not are getting way out of hand. obviously wearing an earring does not make you gay and so what if it did. i honestly would have more questions about a straight guy at a bank with earrings and his judgment than I would about a banker that was just gay. if they are smart and do the work, who cares. i know a gay guy working at a megafund and 90% of the monkeys on this forum would turn gay just to have his job. however, 90%+ of the monkeys on this forum could not get his job because they are not nearly as smart or as hard working as he is. you guys need to spend less time bashing people on this thread because of their style or sex orientation, and more time reading the threads on valuation, accounting, and interviewing techniques.
LOL thread.
Ill add my $0.02, especially to the idiots making a point 'oooh youre so lame and conformist for being typical with no tatoos/piercings'.
Interviews are about business/business casual attire. Would you go in with sandals and shorts? No. So take your piercings out, and if you really want to have your body penetrated by something other than a dildo, then yes put that earring back in when you get home.
Jesus, why the fuck is everyone here such dickbags? Leave the kid alone. Everyone comes from different places and everyone has different styles that they enjoy. Just because he has a different conception of fashion doesnt mean that you guys have to be douches about it. Half of you have probably never even worked in banking.
That having been said, the earrings are not appropriate. You can get your ear pierced again after your SA stint is over.
European Banking is more open I would say. I remember seeing a Deutsche Bank recruiting video and an analyst had a Flock of Seagulls type haircut.
Yes, US banking is a fratty, brooks brothers wearing, country club - accept it or move on.
This reminds me of the time my father commented to me, after coming home with my ear piereced, "All men who wear jewellry are "assh-----."
At 15 pumped up on Vitamin-T, I didn't believe him. By 16, I started to understand after the earing was ripped out during a fight with some townies.
Eerything matters in BB, in PE, etc. If you're fat and ugly -- there are some people who will try to keep you locked under the staircase or up in the attic.
If you're of a different race, sexual preference or religion then the "power structure" of your firm (tribe) and your targets/clients -- then you will suffer sometimes. We all have our own private hell to endure.
Then again, you've made a decision to enter the life/culture of BB -- conform to your tribe's values or find a way of making the inherent conflict work for you.
L'enfer c'est les autres!
So you finally understood that all men who wear jewelry are assholes because you got yours ripped out during a fight?
Can you please explain how you came up with that?
this thread is still alive?
lmfao
Theres a difference between having a piercing and wearing an earring/stud.
Nobody is going to care if you have a hole in your earlobe. In a professional setting, just don't wear a stud/earring. Save that shit for a free night out at the bars.
:-)
how did this joker get an offer?
Joker got an offer from Deustche Bank and Barclays. THE Goldman Sachs or Morgan Stanley wouldn't go for that shit.
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You can have them if you are OK being singled out on an everyday basis
It depends. Do you look more baller with them than without them?
lol... like I said, some of you guys come off as real tools
and I'm not talking about the guys that just get a needle stuck through their ear. The fact that some people are so disgusted by such a minor thing on another person that does not effect them whatsoever is ridiculous and screams of insecurity.
The racism and homophobia on this site is astounding.
Says the guy with the Greg Louganis profile pic.
It's Michael Phelps, but if it were famous and accomplished gay diver Greg Lougainis, what would be your point? Is my own point about people dropping the word 'faggot' like it aint no thing or saying that only latinos or blacks can wear earings (because it fits with racial stereotypes about these groups of people) less relevant if I had had a gay man as my user pic? Please explain.
....greg louganis actually accomplished more then everybody on this board combined. Common Eddie I expect more from you..are you really on par with the frat-boy-types on this board who are threatened by people who have tattoos and think only people who wear brooks bros work on wall st?
Haha, I was thinking the same thing. LGBToasis!
Maybee you could be one of the Investment Bankers who represents the NFL Playaz Union.
I used to have earrings, had nipples pierced, and have tattoos. Use a little common since though. Take them the fuck out when you are interviewing.
did you take out even your nip rings when interviewing?
I took those out a few years ago. Not due to interviewing or anything, but because they weren't pierced right and never healed correctly.
No piercings unless you are female.
yeah I could tell everything about you by your username.
Where the fvck are you trying to work at!? H & M? Take that sh!t out.
Very simple.... No.
you should get a prince albert. you can tie your cock to your leg with it and it makes your suit look better
also to OP: doubtful it's appropriate. wear whatever you feel comfortable with.
some of your boss's clients (50yo+ traditional men) might comment "on the fucking hood ornament stuck on your head" when you're not in the room. but if you feel you need to keep them go ahead. i took my 3 out when i started having people give me more responsibility.
it was around that time that i started realising that making a statement was worth less to me than making a good impression on older people
No, you can't where an earing because no else wears one.
sorry to bring this back up but let's say you have a very small piercing that you've had for years. I don't plan on wearing in a corporate office but let's just say. how would it be perceived?
like of this magnitude http://halesiadesigns.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Earrin…
[quote=Lotin]sorry to bring this back up but let's say you have a very small piercing that you've had for years. I don't plan on wearing in a corporate office but let's just say. how would it be perceived?
like of this magnitude http://halesiadesigns.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Earrin…]
If you're not wearing it in an office why would it matter? Also, I'd have thought the last 3 pages would have demonstrated that any earing is perhaps not appropriate. I had 2, took both out about a year ago.
I get everyone's point here but can I just say I forgot to takeout the 3 additional era studs in addition to the two regular earrings, both during the interview and at work... and nobody seemed to have cared?
My good friend also has a nose pierce and she got through everything fine as well...
no piercing doesnt go with the make over that suits the job environment. for girl they can come up with traditional piercing but nontraditional piercing is not expected. however that is my opinion.
I didn't understand a word of that...
Trolololol man up you gypsy.
Piercings in IB (Originally Posted: 03/24/2008)
Here's a not so serious topic: piercings! I'm a girl and besides having my lobes pierced I also have one conch piercing. The jewelry I wear is more visible than this one http://imagesforum.doctissimo.fr/mesimages/1046077/tif%209.jpg but much less than this one http://www.chaosreigns.com/pics/dxleftear2.jpg. To my interview I made it more discreet but now that I've got the job I'm wondering whether I'm going to have to continue hiding it. I'm currently on exchange abroad and, as every girl looks identical here, people have started referring to me as the girl with the piercings. (I have one! one!) Anyway, I think I'll stand out enough as it is at the office because I have very very short (boy cut), messy, bright-coloured hair. What do you think? How "conservative" do I have to be in IB offices?
You could always just take it out.
i have a tattoo on my leg (close to my ankle). to the interview i wore pants so they couldn't tell. but does that mean i need to avoid wearing skirts? have you seen anyone at work with a tattoo showing?
companies should have documents on their dress code (along with few hundred pages of other codes, including chinese wall stuff) for you to read after hiring you
No one's going to fire you because of this - but it's probably one of those situations in which you wear your piercing at your own risk. Maybe no one will say anything to you or people will think it's cool, but do you really want to stick out or be remembered by senior bankers as the girl with the "weird piercing"? Why risk derailing your professional reputation because of such a small thing...?
piercing and bright colored boy cut hair? doesnt exactly ring appropriate female banker to me but i would comment that this also depends a lot on which bank you are working at imo. some on the street are certainly more conservative than others (hate to generalize but the "american" banks are generally more conservative than the european ones)
There is no way I'd let you out of the office with that piercing. Tattoos are also a no no. Most clients you'll meet (the non wall street ones at the very least) are grayhairs who will not think very highly of their advisor showing up with piercings and tattoos.
have once in a while walked around with their tattoos showing but even they try to hide it.
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