Are some people born to serve?

OK,

So after I graduated I could not get a FT IB offer so I decided to work for a IT company in CA. No, its not a start-up and no its not Google!

I don't know if what happens here is prevalent at banks, but it seems some people are born to serve intentionally/unintentionally and some are born to lead. Some would gladly bend-down for a good spanking while the others gladly take' em from behind.

Just a thought, I probably wont go very far in this corporate culture. Just wanted to know if this exists across different companies/industries as well.

So, WSO are some people born to be taken a shit on?

 
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I was always brought up to believe that good leaders put themselves last and take on the toughest jobs. Did that as an SPL, Eagle Scout, OA Chapter Chair, and later as a student minister running bring-a-friend dinners that doubled a sleepy Methodist church's membership over two years.

People LEARN to serve and LEARN to lead and the two are ONLY mutually exclusive in a screwed up city like New York. Leading takes confidence; serving takes humility; in the rest of the country, you can have both at the same time.

Warren Buffett and Ray Lewis IMHO are two great examples of servant leaders. Both are confident; both know that there are things that are a whole lot bigger and more important than they are. In order to put the organization first, they have to put themselves last. Those are the kinds of leaders that genuinely attract people, add tremendous value, and make it fun to work for a firm that pays a little less or asks a little more of its employees.

This view of leadership was a lot more common prior to the 1980s, and if we see a retracement in our culture like we're seeing with our economy, we'll see more of this attitude at the C-level in 20 years.

The one thing I would recommend is trying to develop confidence in your judgment and ability to make decisions. And stay the heck away from the East Coast. Don't give up the humility but learn to trust your instincts.

 

What I have figured, to the best of my abilities, is that noone is born to be subservient specifically. This isn't exclusive of peoples growing up in societies and cultures that indoctrinate them to habits and behaviors that make them more inclined to serving/leading. I'll give an example, at mormon temples, after a guy becomes an adult (they call them elders), they have classes at temple where they rotate leading them. They do community service types of things and spend a lot of time doing character building exercises, and are taught in the ways of inducting people in to the church. Compare this with the kid whos parents are weak willed, and who allow their kid to sit in their room all day playing video games, while the kid gets mediocre grades and ends up getting an arts degree with a 2.7 gpa. Different societies and cultures promote different values and produce different results.

“...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” - Schopenhauer
 

Ha, but would you tell that to your GF, short?

“...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” - Schopenhauer
 

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