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Aspiring monkey Emails MS CEO And Gets Some Harsh Advice
 

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mongoose
      O
 
(King Kong, 1,030
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 9:59am

http://www.businessinsider.com/james-gorman-morgan...

Don't piss off the CEO of Morgan Stanley!

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Maximus Decimus Meridius's picture

I'm actually surprised he

Maximus Decimus...
      ST
 
 
(Gorilla, 631
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 11:46am

I'm actually surprised he bothered to answer

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ConanDBull's picture

i always laugh when i say "T.

ConanDBull
      CO
 
(Gorilla, 542
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 11:55am

i always laugh when i say "T. Boone Pickens"

"Know what to do, know how to do it, and do it hard." - Juan Castillo

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Bernankey's picture

This guy is a fag.

Bernankey
      ST
 
(Gorilla, 613
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 12:04pm

This guy is a fag.

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seabird's picture

Reminds me of Buffett and how

seabird
      PE
 
 
(King Kong, 1,494
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 12:22pm

Reminds me of Buffett and how he harassed Ben Graham for two years before Graham gave him a job at his firm/how Buffett went to Geico's headquarters on a Saturday and knocked on the door until a janitor let him in and then went and talked to a VP there for a while. Guys got spunk, though he was probably a bit too over the top going after a CEO at a large firm - Id say that itd be fine for boutiques and some MM firms though..

“...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.”

- Schopenhauer

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Ambition's picture

he is ambitious, actually

Ambition
      EN
 
(Gorilla, 717
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 12:58pm

he is ambitious, actually that is how I got my PE internship during my school year and a Corp Dev internship at a Tech firm in SF in this coming summer (I am a freshman) I go to a non-target.

The PE guy i first called 10 times before he answered. Then he responded with what the hell do you want? I am like could you please consider me for an internship. I called him again to tell him that I sent it, and he responds with yea, sorry I wont look at it ( i am too young). Well I emailed my resume like 5 times a week for the next 3 weeks, and he was finally ok ill give you a shot because of your persistance, and now he loves me!!!

I want a lady on the street, but a freak in the bed,

Go Bucks!!

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SpanishBuzz's picture

Ambition wrote: he is

SpanishBuzz
     
 
(Senior Baboon, 198
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 1:04pm
Ambition:

he is ambitious, actually that is how I got my PE internship during my school year and a Corp Dev internship at a Tech firm in SF in this coming summer (I am a freshman) I go to a non-target.

The PE guy i first called 10 times before he answered. Then he responded with what the hell do you want? I am like could you please consider me for an internship. I called him again to tell him that I sent it, and he responds with yea, sorry I wont look at it ( i am too young). Well I emailed my resume like 5 times a week for the next 3 weeks, and he was finally ok ill give you a shot because of your persistance, and now he loves me!!!

That reads like a lie. Do you lie Ambition?

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happypantsmcgee's picture

VP: "That shit is ridiculous.

happypantsmcgee
      O
 
 
(Almost Human, 9,621
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 1:09pm

VP: "That shit is ridiculous. Its so transparent. If you called me everyday for a month, it doesn't show you're persistent, it shows you don't know how to best utilize your time. If I ever do answer, its going to be because I'm sick of you making my phone ring, not because I'm impressed."

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

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Ambition's picture

idk senior monkey, I mean if

Ambition
      EN
 
(Gorilla, 717
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 1:20pm

idk senior monkey, I mean if i didnt actually get all this how am I a certified user? Is it too good to be true? Naaa i am trying to get IBD this summer, and actually landed this so I am cool with it (unless some of my connections can help me land a gig).

You dont know me (even though the star is proof that i am not a fake), so you can believe whatever you would like. I dont come on this site to write bullshit, or accuse people of lying for that matter, so I can claim that I do not lie on this website. Since I am wasting time attempting to win your trust, I will say screw u! XD

I want a lady on the street, but a freak in the bed,

Go Bucks!!

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Ambition's picture

well happy i am not

Ambition
      EN
 
(Gorilla, 717
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 1:21pm

well happy i am not complaining.

I want a lady on the street, but a freak in the bed,

Go Bucks!!

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Ambition's picture

Calling the CEO of a hugh

Ambition
      EN
 
(Gorilla, 717
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 1:29pm

Calling the CEO of a hugh bank is stupid, but a small PE fund in Ohio..... He actually told me afterwards that he was just testing me to see if I really wanted it. This happened with me when I worked in Kroger as a bagger the manager wanted us to call them 5-10 times to see if we really wanted it..... honestly would you want to hire someone that gives up on something he/she wants badly.... that sounds like a shitty employee.

It was risky cuz he sould have been pissed off at me. (which he was) but I proved that I could be a nice asset (since I do go to the largest school in the nation, and could help him get connected with some of our business school's deans) and then he decided to let me on and now we are good friends we are running Capital City half marathon togther (training for it too)

I want a lady on the street, but a freak in the bed,

Go Bucks!!

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seabird's picture

Ambition wrote: ...(since I

seabird
      PE
 
 
(King Kong, 1,494
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 1:35pm
Ambition:

...(since I do go to the largest school in the nation, and could help him get connected with some of our business school's deans)...

University of Phoenix?

“...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.”

- Schopenhauer

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Ambition's picture

The largest student body goes

Ambition
      EN
 
(Gorilla, 717
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 1:37pm

The largest student body goes to Ohio State my friend

I want a lady on the street, but a freak in the bed,

Go Bucks!!

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seabird's picture

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

seabird
      PE
 
 
(King Kong, 1,494
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 1:43pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_Unite...

Looks like #13 or 3. Just saying. Still, thats a lot bigger than my school, and we were still in the 5 digits.

“...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.”

- Schopenhauer

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Maximus Decimus Meridius

UFOinsider
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(Human, 10,349
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 2:22pm
Maximus Decimus Meridius:

I'm actually surprised he bothered to answer

I'm surprised the dude didn't write back to him after getting a response. Hell, if they guy actually took the time out to write an answer, there's potential. I know the protocol and wouldn't do this at this point, but this kid's got nothing at all to lose, so why not?

I give the kid A for effort, C- for brains, but in the end it's BALLS that make the man.

YOU JUST GOT TROLLED
http://www.troll.me/images/red-foreman322/dont-you...

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Bernankey's picture

Ambition wrote: Calling the

Bernankey
      ST
 
(Gorilla, 613
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 2:09pm
Ambition:

Calling the CEO of a hugh bank is stupid, but a small PE fund in Ohio..... He actually told me afterwards that he was just testing me to see if I really wanted it. This happened with me when I worked in Kroger as a bagger the manager wanted us to call them 5-10 times to see if we really wanted it..... honestly would you want to hire someone that gives up on something he/she wants badly.... that sounds like a shitty employee.

It was risky cuz he sould have been pissed off at me. (which he was) but I proved that I could be a nice asset (since I do go to the largest school in the nation, and could help him get connected with some of our business school's deans) and then he decided to let me on and now we are good friends we are running Capital City half marathon togther (training for it too)

Its disconcerting that certified user on this site is a freshman.

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Rupert Pupkin's picture

^^^Extremely. I'm sure he

Rupert Pupkin
      IB
 
 
(Senior Gorilla, 814
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 2:27pm
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Ambition wrote: idk senior

Nouveau Richie
      IB
 
(Neanderthal, 2,785
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 2:32pm
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Ambition's picture

What does age have to do with

Ambition
      EN
 
(Gorilla, 717
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 2:35pm

I want a lady on the street, but a freak in the bed,

Go Bucks!!

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mongoose's picture

Another

mongoose
      O
 
(King Kong, 1,030
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 2:40pm
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joe_monkey's picture

Ambition wrote: What does age

joe_monkey
      CO
 
(Baboon, 117
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 2:40pm

Don't believe everything you think.

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Ambition's picture

Ok Nouveau Richie, seems

Ambition
      EN
 
(Gorilla, 717
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 2:40pm

I want a lady on the street, but a freak in the bed,

Go Bucks!!

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Ambition's picture

joe ill PM u.

Ambition
      EN
 
(Gorilla, 717
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 2:42pm

I want a lady on the street, but a freak in the bed,

Go Bucks!!

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Bernankey's picture

lol ambition managed to

Bernankey
      ST
 
(Gorilla, 613
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 3:07pm
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mongoose's picture

Bernankey wrote: lol ambition

mongoose
      O
 
(King Kong, 1,030
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 3:16pm
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Ambition's picture

Haha bernankey yes I did XD.

Ambition
      EN
 
(Gorilla, 717
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 3:26pm

I want a lady on the street, but a freak in the bed,

Go Bucks!!

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JamesHetfield

bears1208
     
 
(Gorilla, 535
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 3:41pm
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FinancialNoviceII's picture

We have some dick crying

FinancialNoviceII
      CS
 
(Neanderthal, 2,460
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 4:00pm
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Ambition's picture

I am not crying about a star

Ambition
      EN
 
(Gorilla, 717
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 4:32pm

I want a lady on the street, but a freak in the bed,

Go Bucks!!

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Hooked on LEAPS's picture

Back to the original

Hooked on LEAPS
      ER
 
(Senior Gorilla, 778
 
Points)
 on 1/11/12 at 4:36pm

You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist. - Friedrich Nietzsche

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Ambition wrote: idk senior

SpanishBuzz
     
 
(Senior Baboon, 198
 
Points)
 on 1/16/12 at 6:07pm
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I actually did something

Dash Riprock
     
 
(Monkey, 35
 
Points)
 on 11/4/12 at 8:36pm
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The Company only uses personal information about its Web site users for specific purposes. We do not share user information with third parties except when we have told users about the disclosures, when we have prior consent, or when required by law.

Use Policy: When the Company gathers personal information from users, we ask for permission first. We also disclose, at the time of collection, how the information will be used by us. Personal information is used for activities such as auto-completion of commonly-used forms and helping us contact you when you solicit information from us.

Disclosure Policy: We do not normally disclose personal information to anyone outside of the Company unless we have previously informed users about the disclosures. However, some data may be used from time to time by outside contractors, including auditors or consultants, to assist us in carrying out necessary financial or operational activities. These uses will be consistent with this privacy policy and all contractors using this potential personal information must agree to safeguard it, to use it only for the authorized purpose, and to return it or destroy it upon completion of the activity.

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Although unlikely, it is possible that we may have to make certain disclosures to ensure the security of our Web site, to protect its integrity, or to take precautions against potential liability. In any of these situations, we will take any reasonable steps to limit the scope of the data disclosed.

Web Logs: The Company maintains standard Web logs that record basic information about visitors to our Web site. These logs contain: * The Internet domain from which you came to our Web site. * Your IP address. An IP address is a series of numbers which uniquely identifies your connection to the Internet. Although it is possible in some instances, certain types of IP addresses may be used by interested persons to identify users but we do not attempt to identify users in this way. * The type of browser (e.g., Internet Explorer or Netscape) and operating system (e.g., Windows 98) you use. * The date and time you visited the site, and the pages you saw.

We use Web log information to design our Web site, identify popular features, and in similar ways. We do not try to identify individuals from Web logs or to link Web logs to other user information. However, if someone tries to damage our Web site or use it in an unauthorized or illegal way, we may share Web log information with law enforcement agencies. The Company may provide aggregate information such as the number of users who visit particular pages of the site, or the number of people who link to certain external sites from our site, to other parties.

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The Company's features and services will change over time and our information-gathering practices and policies may also change.

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