Atrocious 1st semester gpa at ivy what to do now?
My GPA for the first semester was 2.0...literally on the verge of failing(due to procrastination and underestimating the difficulty of college classes). Originally, I planned to take the well treaded path to financial services/consulting but due to how low my GPA is now... even if I am able to manage a 3.7 or higher average for the next three semesters(end of sophomore yr) I will probably still only have around 3.4-3.5 which is just the threshold for those career paths/internship for those industries. I don't have any connections so that's not an option for me either. So what you do recommend that I do?
A) choose a different career path that may require grad school/in which my GPA isn't as important until senior yr?
B) take summer session to boost GPA?
-my only concern for this is the cost...
C) transfer?
*I don't know how being at different college can affect the perception of a lower a GPA since my parents will probably only let me transfer to a college of equal caliber which leaves only (MIT, Stanford, Harvard, Princeton(doesn't accept transfers I think), Yale, Columbia, and non-US colleges like LSE, Oxford, Cambridge) and I don't know what the minimum requirement are for those colleges for transfers
*side question ---are there any internships that don't really care about your GPA? I will literally go for anything at this point in order
to make up for my horrible mistake. But I'm particularly interested in sustainability, technology, and real-estate development.
Thanks! If you have any better/alternative recommendations for what I could do please let me know!






Can you repeat classes? My
Can you repeat classes? My school lets you replace old grades when you retake the class.
Try and repeat. However, if
Try and repeat.
However, if you graduate from an ivy with anything above a 3.0 and solid internships I'm pretty sure finding a good job won't be that difficult. There's even some people on this forum that broke in with sub 3.0 GPA's at state schools, so I feel pretty safe saying that you can dig yourself out of your current situation.
You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist. - Friedrich Nietzsche
It's really not the end of
It's really not the end of the world and there's nothing you can do about it right now except buckle down and try to kill the next four semesters (summer drops are usually January/Feb of junior year IIRC).
Come back to us in two years when you need resume advice.
Of your options, I would recommend summer classes. If it makes you feel better, I had a 2.6 my first semester and got it up to a 3.3 for recruiting. I graduated with a sub-3.0 and it hasn't hurt me one bit in the long run (unless not getting a MF interview counts as "hurt", but I earn more anyways)...though it did make the road a lot tougher for me.
Difficulty of classes? You
Difficulty of classes? You shouldn't be taking a difficult major at an Ivy League school.
You don't need to change your career path or think about grad school. You need to choose an easier major ie art history or psych.
"A man generally has two reasons for doing anything. One that sounds good, and the real one." - J.P. Morgan
BTbanker: Difficulty of
Difficulty of classes? You shouldn't be taking a difficult major at an Ivy League school.
You don't need to change your career path or think about grad school. You need to choose an easier major ie art history or psych.
It's his first semester; I doubt he was taking many, if any, major classes.
mrb87: It's really not the
It's really not the end of the world and there's nothing you can do about it right now except buckle down and try to kill the next four semesters (summer drops are usually January/Feb of junior year IIRC).
Come back to us in two years when you need resume advice.
Of your options, I would recommend summer classes. If it makes you feel better, I had a 2.6 my first semester and got it up to a 3.3 for recruiting. I graduated with a sub-3.0 and it hasn't hurt me one bit in the long run (unless not getting a MF interview counts as "hurt", but I earn more anyways)...though it did make the road a lot tougher for me.
Now how did that happen lol?
did you just say fuck it after you received an offer?
Just a sophomore looking for an opportunity to start up this dream of mine.
teehee: My GPA for the first
My GPA for the first semester was 2.0...literally on the verge of failing(due to procrastination and underestimating the difficulty of college classes). Originally, I planned to take the well treaded path to financial services/consulting but due to how low my GPA is now... even if I am able to manage a 3.7 or higher average for the next three semesters(end of sophomore yr) I will probably still only have around 3.4-3.5 which is just the threshold for those career paths/internship for those industries. I don't have any connections so that's not an option for me either. So what do recommend that I do?
A) choose a different career path that may require grad school/in which my GPA isn't as important until senior yr?
B) take summer session to boost GPA?
-my only concern for this is the cost...
C) transfer?
*I don't know how being at different college can affect the perception of a lower a GPA since my parents will probably only let me transfer to a college of equal caliber which leaves only (MIT, Stanford, Harvard, Princeton(doesn't accept transfers I think), Yale, Columbia, and non-US colleges like LSE, Oxford, Cambridge) and I don't know what the minimum requirement are for those colleges for transfers
*side question ---are there any internships that don't really care about your GPA? I will literally go for anything at this point in order
to make up for my horrible mistake. But I'm particularly interested in sustainability, technology, and real-estate development.
Thanks! If you have any better/alternative recommendations for what I could do please let me know!
A) In terms of career path, do what you're interested in doing! If it's banking then do banking, if you're only interested in the cash/prestige that comes along with it then banking might be hard job. There all sorts of successful/wealthy people who had terrible GPAs in college/went to non targets and still excelled because they chose a career path that both interested them and was well suited for them and their skill sets. You're privileged in attending an ivy in that you have a lot of options available and that a 3.2+ GPA at the end of junior year coupled with true passion can lead you into a lot of great positions in a number of fields in and out of finance.
B) Summer session freshman summer is a good idea, an internship isn't necessary. Eat the cost and try to take the harder math/econ classes over the summer as they are often much easier than during the semester. If possible, try to take classes at a community college or in state public university where the cost is about $1000 per 3 credit class and get the calculus/science gen eds out of the way through transfer of credit. There are a lot of sociology type analysis econ classes during the semester that you can take where avg grades are typically a B - try to at least get B+s/A-s in these. If you're not at HYPC then I wouldn't switch majors.
C) Transferring is a personal decision that you'll have to make for yourself. I'm assuming you go to Penn/Dartmouth/Brown. All of the schools you listed are ranked higher than these 3 and so they would be a step up and not a lateral. With a sub 3.0 it will be very difficult to get into a top 15 school. Emory/UNC/Mich all have business schools intended on taking sophomore transfers and so they might be good options. Certain LACs like Middlebury weigh the hs record more than the college record and openly discriminate against transfers that aren't from peer institutions. This would give you a leg up on community college transfer applicants that have 4.0s and so it could be an option. Overall though, I would really not transfer given that your school is better than the schools you could transfer to with the bad college gpa. However if you are at Cornell, then I would strongly consider transferring after getting the GPA above a 3.0 as the competition there is intense and you might be shut out from recruiting with less than a 3.5.
Dude you are at an ivy, chill
Dude you are at an ivy, chill out. I know quite a few kids that graduated with around a 3.0 gpa from an ivy, they did fine. Take a summer class and intern in PWM your Freshman summer. Also start networking now for a Sophomore gig.
You have plenty of time to
You have plenty of time to make up for it...you'll be fine.
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Save yourself and your
Save yourself and your parents some money and think about a flagship state school. If they're reasonable, I think they'll agree with you when they see your transcript.
1.) Transfer to an in-state state school, especially if you come from a state like Virginia, Texas, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana, Washington, or Illinois.
2.) Study engineering
3.) Get GPA up to 3.2
4.) Go work at Boeing for a few years.
5.) Go to HBS for MBA.
If they still won't go for it, you need to figure out an easier major or start taking some easier classes.
A few uncomfortable truths that you may need to hear:
-You have to really work at it to get a C at a number of Ivies, unless all of your classes were weed-outs- or if you were studying Engineering at Cornell.
-When you get into industry in three short years, it will be even tougher.
(If you are doing Engineering or STEM at Cornell, I recommend picking an easier major or maybe switching to lower-key, lower-cost, roughly-same-pay SUNY)
Work hard, play hard.
IlliniProgrammer: Save
Save yourself and your parents some money and think about a flagship state school. If they're reasonable, I think they'll agree with you when they see your transcript.
1.) Transfer to an in-state state school, especially if you come from a state like Virginia, Texas, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana, Washington, or Illinois.
2.) Study engineering
3.) Get GPA up to 3.2
4.) Go work at Boeing for a few years.
5.) Go to HBS for MBA.
If they still won't go for it, you need to figure out an easier major or start taking some easier classes.
A few uncomfortable truths that you may need to hear:
-You have to really work at it to get a C at a number of Ivies, unless all of your classes were weed-outs- or if you were studying Engineering at Cornell.
-When you get into industry in three short years, it will be even tougher.
(If you are doing Engineering or STEM at Cornell, I recommend picking an easier major or maybe switching to lower-key, lower-cost, roughly-same-pay SUNY)
The only SUNYs worth paying for are Binghamton, Geneseo, New Paltz and the environmental science one, the rest are utter crap either in terms of academics or student life. I'm pretty sure it's impossible to get a job at Boeing or other top engineering firms from the schools you mentioned sans UVA, Michigan and Illinois due to their preference for ivy/rpi/MIT grads. Washington/Wisconsin/UNC might be worth it if in state, but I personally wouldn't go to Indiana or Georgia or a SUNY regardless of in/out of state coming from an ivy.
^^^ We picked up a lot of
^^^ We picked up a lot of SUNY-Stoneybrook CS alumns when I worked in Quant Analytics. It's a solid CS school. I may be a little more out of my league when commenting on more general engineering at SUNY Stonybrook, but I know a lot of smart CS alumns from there.
Work hard, play hard.
I meant more along the lines
I meant more along the lines of it being a crappy college experience, it's really easy to get into but it's okay for pre - med not 100% sure about engineering/cs.
http://www.studentsreview.com/NY/State_University_...
More than 50% wouldn't return to Stony Brook, it's extremely rare to have a top 100 school where the majority of students wouldn't want to go back.
I meant more along the lines
I meant more along the lines of it being a crappy college experience, it's really easy to get into but it's okay for pre - med not 100% sure about engineering/cs.
http://www.studentsreview.com/NY/State_University_...
More than 50% wouldn't return to Stony Brook, it's extremely rare to have a top 100 school where the majority of students wouldn't want to go back.
My simple point is that my
My simple point is that my parents repeated the mantra over and over again:
"We work incredibly hard for your tuition bill. WE ARE NOT PAYING $3500 A SEMESTER FOR YOU TO BRING HOME C's. GO OUT THERE AND GET SOME As, OR YOU'RE GOING TO COMMUNITY COLLEGE."
At first, I thought this was sort of ridiculous. But they had a good point. If consumption really is limited- and roughly balanced over time- it's better to take a step back if that $20,000, or $3500/semester tuition bill isn't helping you. Save your parents' money and go in-state where you can earn some Bs and land a nice- not amazing- job.
Take it from me, it will work out in the end. I went to a high school where 15% of the students- more like 50% in the AP classes- went to ivy leagues + Stanford + Chicago + Northwestern + MIT. I couldn't afford those schools, so I went in-state. I got hired into Quant Analytics at a major NYC bank and worked my way to the trading floor, having to climb over a lot of people with better degrees to get there.
Then I got a little burnt out, figured the economy would suck for the next couple years, and got an MS that I could now afford after saving a lot of money.
Your work ethic and your intellect are your potential. You're not going to find that true potential if you're not challenging yourself- but if things are so hard that it's discouraging, you need to take a step back. Take it from four years of doing a CS major and five years in banking.
Work hard, play hard.
Husky32: I meant more along
Work hard, play hard.
Well, from your previous
IP, while you generally give
Falcon: mrb87: It's really
mrb87: IP, while you
Work hard, play hard.
IlliniProgrammer: mrb87: IP
I still disagree; learning
Work hard, play hard.
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Husky32: IlliniProgrammer:
Higheck123: Husky32: Illi
Take this shit to
To fade me its gonna take more than guts, you need the eye of the tiger, heart of a lion and King Kong’s nuts
As other people said, try and
Higheck123: Husky32: Illi
How did an "OMG LOW GPA"
Work hard, play hard.
My advice to the OP is
Like others have said, repeat
Thanks everyone for your
Don't ask us about your
Get a part-time job and keep
teeheeeven: if I am able to
"The way to make money is to buy when blood is running in the streets."
-John D. Rockefeller
Try MIT should be a piece of
IlliniProgrammer: Save
IlliniProgrammer: Save
Aston Gekko: transferring
^^ There are very few
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IlliniProgrammer: Save
wow. everyone needs to chill
Correct me if I'm wrong with
Do not transfer away from an
carlfox: teeheeeven: if I
Cornell and Brown not really
dave1983: Do not transfer
Work hard, play hard.
dave1983: Cornell and Brown
Work hard, play hard.
I'm not a Brown student, I