Best business/econ undergrad school in EU(exc UK)

can't understand any of this UK stuff

what do you mean?

I don't think predicted ABB will that get you into Erasmus, it is supposed to be pretty competitive.

But, on their website they say they want BBB. I think I may be able to get a higher prediction, possibly AAB or AAA.

Yeah, I think it like LSE, a lot of the undergrad programs say AAB ABB etc. but its very rare to get in without AAA + a lot of A*'s at GCSE. Good luck though, try to get predicted AAA at least.

okay. thanks are there any other good buss schools in europe for undergrad?

And by the way, most LSE programs want A*AA. thanks

A- levels arent that easy, but since you only have to do 3 subjects, i guess one could think of them as a joke. But i have international experience(lived in other countries), did 1 month long internship in USA last year.

I am aiming to end up with AAA and i have taken up 2 AS this year. I got ABB C(further maths) at AS, and my school predicted me ABB(they could have predicted me better).

I am looking at these UK unis : lancaster, kent, durham, nottingham and manchester course- finance/accounting and economics.

I was also looking at McGill, how hard is that to get in? they require like BBB(just like RSM). I should have chosen to do IB or AP.

whats your end goal? If its finance none of those schools will be any good.

Just aim at UCL/LSE/Warwick/Oxbridge and maybe one other one I am forgetting are the only schools with strong placement into the city.

shitty course at any of those unis will be worth much more than any finance course at the ones you mentioned

Thanks for that, I just looked and UCL offers 'Economics and Business with East European Studies BA' and requires AAB-ABB, so i can apply. LSE offers BSc Economics and Economic History and requires AAB.

So i could apply there. But they are still quite hard to get into.

But, are there any other good B-schools in Europe which offer courses in English ?

Thanks I just checked and UCL has shitty modules with the course. According to Unistats, the unis i have chosen have over 80% of graduates employed

I don't think you have a hope in hell of getting into econ with econ history with anything less than AAA. I am former history at LSE, everyone that I knew had AAA (this was pre a), unless you have a VERY good story e.g. set up your own FOHF while doing a levels or you are from an inner city gangland area etc. I don't think you have a chance. First step is to make sure you get predicted AAA, then you might be okay. What are your GCSE's like, plenty of A?

Nope, 4A at GCSE. I did my GCSE's in 1 year. But im not going to apply to LSE or UCL. I wont be able to get an AAA prediction because i got ABB at AS.

employment statistics are irrelevant, would you rather be at a university with 99% employment figures where everyone is working at sbux serving me the coffee i need to get through my 19 hour day or at a university with a 60% employment rate where everyone is in ibd?

I never understood why those university ranking tables included graduate employment % but hey journalists are idiots with the statistical understanding of a 3 year old.

anon you are right for pure play history it would be difficult, but from my experience obscure subject mixes (i.e. economics & russian or russian history or economics and the study of the mating of lady birds) are sign. less competitve, nevertheless 3 predicted As are very useful.

What these fancy admission websites dont tell you is that you can often transfer from economics and the study of lady bugs to pure economics in your 2nd year.

I have made my decision about UK unis, Durham, Lancaster, Manchester, Kent and Nottingham.

i need to know of any good undergrad b-school in Europe which teaches in English.

Thanks

How competitive is the Bsc in Management at LSE ? My sister who is studying in the best high school of my country, which is close the UK btw, wants to join this programme but we don't have any GSCE or A level, we have a baccalaureate which is a final exam with no predicted grades etc and lots of different modules (Maths / Physics & Chemistry / Biology / History & Geography / Literature / Philosophy / PE / Economics / 2 languages and some other options).

I checked the requirements for undergraduate students but I don't know whether I can rely on this since it should be the same issue as for you guys with AAB as a minimum and AAA* actually. thx

How good in University of Amsterdam for buss and econ?

Thanks

I hear Rotterdam is decent, not quite top tier though. In continental Europe, HEC/Bocconi/SSE seem to be the top dogs.

So, do you think with a degree from one of these colleges will get me a good job in either consultancy or IB? Also, with my grades, do you think i have a shot at any of those unis you mentioned?

By SSE, you mean Stockholm school of econ, right? Thanks

Yes for SSE. Those schools have the best placement record in London after LSE/Oxbridge/Warwick. I don't know for certain as far A-levels go.

GoodBread , about Bocconi , are you talking about the bachelor (in english) or the MSc in finance ? Because i've been told than the Bachelor degree is a kind of joke ... ?

Check RSM's alumni on linkedin , a lot of them are working at GS , JPM , MS ... And banks are also recruiting on it's campus.But the program seems a little bit crappy : international business administration ... Can't figure out if that's suitable for IB or Consultancy.

Most people @ Bocconi go for 5 years. That said I did meet a kid who was starting in IBD at Nomura after 3 years. You have to get a masters if you go to HEC. I'm not sure about SSE.

Thanks alot for that. In the UK im applying to : Durham(accounting and finance), Lancaster(accounting and finance), Manchester(Finance and Econ), Kent(Acc, Finance, Econ) and Essex(finance and econ).

So, are SSE,RSM or Bocconi better than my UK choices? I dont mind where i go as long as the uni has good job prospects and alot of international students.

As for SSE, I have never heard of it. Is it a good school?

Thanks alot Sorry if my questions seem noobish :P

Thanks alot for that. In the UK im applying to : Durham(accounting and finance), Lancaster(accounting and finance), Manchester(Finance and Econ), Kent(Acc, Finance, Econ) and Essex(finance and econ).

So, are SSE,RSM or Bocconi better than my UK choices? I dont mind where i go as long as the uni has good job prospects and alot of international students.

As for SSE, I have never heard of it. Is it a good school?

Thanks alot Sorry if my questions seem noobish :P

I'd say the continental choices are better but you still have to hustle.

In SSE, it looks like the majority of the students are from Eastern Europe, so i am not really sure.

ill still apply to RSM and possibly University of Amsterdam.

Also, are there any good unis in Germany?

Thanks

german unis do not accept a levels. they have issues with the ib already which is actually difficult lol

University of Amsterdam is ranked like 39 in the world in QS social science faculty. So, I'm guessing it must be good. Would i be able to get a good job afterwards? And hows the general review of UvA?

Thanks a lot

How are unis in Canada for business/econ. I was looking at Schulich, Queens and McGill. Are these any good for landing a good job in or outside Canada?

Thanks

anyone?

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So how should i decide?

by what people told you are target schools for finance, it depends how you define a good job.

none of your uk choices will get you anywhere near FO in London, neither will rotterdam(altough their placement in netherlands into banks is decent I think, but this may be wrong).

bocconi,sse,whu,hsg place well. as do some french ones altough here i am less familiar.

Okay. I looked at bocconi and SSE and they both look a bit weird. not much info on their websites and im not sure how many international students actually go there. As for WHU and HSG are their courses in English?

Thanks

Do you mean St.Gallen by HSG? If yes, they dont have courses in English.

hsg has english masters, whu is german afaik.

I want to do bachelors and the course should be in english. So i guess that leaves bocconi,sse and rsm?

Don't base your impressions on those schools' horrible websites. There are tons of international students at those three schools and both Bocconi and SSE dominate their local job markets as well as placing well in London.

Okay. Thanks for that. So, I guess I'll apply to all three and see if I can visit those schools next summer. In terms of my grades, do you think I have a chance? I have international experience.

On SSE's website it says that majority of the student body is from Eastern Europe. :S

AAB or AAA should be fine. ABB is more of a toss-up, although I don't think RSM is very competitive.

okay. thanks. Since their application deadline is so late, I can probably ask my school to bump up my predictions. Apparently Bocconi asks for SAT/ACT. I've 1720 on the SAT(first attempt), so i'm not sure if thats good enough. Also, its deadline for admission in fall 2012 is in august. Is that normal(i'm worried as i would have to give a decision to UK unis around 21st aug)?

For HEC, can I enroll for like a 4/5 year masters course(which is in English)? For example, in UK they have like a 4year course for Meng which is meant for high school leavers and will give you a masters after 4 years.

Thanks for all the responses so far.

I don't believe that exists at HEC and I can't really help you on the specifics of admission I'm afraid. Generally speaking, the earlier you apply, the better.

On SSE's website it says that majority of the student body is from Eastern Europe. :S

Is there something wrong with that? That means that on average, the chicks there will be hotter.

And the school is in Riga, Latvia. Im not so sure if i would want to go study there

Would prefer Maastricht University to RSM. At least in Germany the Maastricht University has a pretty decent standing (presumably in the City, too). HSG, HEC and SSE are also highly regarded in Europe. Bocconi should be considered for a Masters programme instead of a Bachelor, in my opinion..

HSG and HEC dont offer programs in English. I've never heard of Maastricht university. Is it any good? And Maastricht university is in Netherlands.

There isn't any problem. It seems weird that you are talking about the standing of Maastricht in Germany. So, getting a job at like Deutsche Bank would be possible?

At least over here, there is a decent number of people from Maastricht at banks like Deutsche, UBS, CS.. I just searched for analaysts and associates on XING (the german LinkedIn) and found some of them. Don't know about the placement in the City though.

I mean, it's just another proposal for an university. If you're able to get in at SSE I would choose it over Maastricht for sure.

Would you rate Maastricht higher than RSM? If the SSE college in Stockholm offered a BBA course in English, I would apply but the only English course available is in Lativa. Hows the Bocconi undergrad program? It sounds like an interesting course- INTERNATIONAL ECONOMICS, MANAGEMENT AND FINANCE

Thanks

Ok thanks for that.

How would you compare Maastricht with RSM?

I've never heard of Maastricht (the school, not the place) save for this thread, so I can't help you there.

Could anyone answer my question?

Also, I was considering Canada and Singapore as an option as well. In Singapore, I looked at NUS and Nanjang. I couldn't find much info about A-level students. For Canada, which school do you think i have a shot at - McGill, Ivey, Queens and Schulich. However, EU is still my top choice due to the fees unless I get into a really good school in Canada or Singapore.

Thanks alot

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