Cass or Rotterdam (RSM)?
Hi All,
I am seeking an advice as i am really struggling which university should I choose.
I am deciding between these two:
Cass Business School - Msc corporate finance
Rotterdam SChool of Management - Msc Finance & Investments
In future i would like to work for financial advisory firm in London. Clearly, Cass has "London advantage" over RSM. On the other hand, programme in RSM costs 1,800 euro, compared to 24,000 pound for Cass' programme.
My questions are:
Are companies from London (consulting, fin. advisory, IB) hiring at RSM?
Is "London advantage" worth paying 24,000 pounds?
Which uni has stronger name (in consulting/IB, in london and globally)?
I found few discussion about that, but i have still very mixed feelings.
Thank you for any kind of advice, info or opinion.
Have a nice day,
Marty
Have you already taken the GMAT?
If I were in your shoes, I would probably choose the RSM program. Imho LSE and Oxbridge are the only programs that are worth an investment of over GBP20k. We invited some RSM students for analyst positions at our bank (though none was hired) and one of my friends from undergrad went from RSM MSc Finance & Investments to a top BB in London, so it's definitely possible.
Btw, are you speaking Dutch, or are you an international student? And what's your GMAT? Have you considered applying to Imperial, LSE, SSE, etc as well?
So is a combo of a decent CV and an Msc in RSM sufficient to get an interview at a BB? I was under the impression that RSM grads are usually in demand for divisions that cover country-specific markets, hence requiring analysts with fluent/native language skills.
It depends. If you are a dutch student with a strong CV (i.e. good internships and solid grades), then you would probably be invited by some banks, especially for their BeNeLux team. But that one friend of mine who went from MSc RSM to London BB was German, so I don't see why any other student with a solid background shouldn't be able to secure a spot at a BB in London.
and my vote goes to... RSM
cass is nothing special - not worth the money definitely. placement is similar i guess. answer the questions that a&b asked above so i can understand your case better tho..
CASS not worth it and is shite!! go RSM if u really have to take a call between these two
curious why so many have such a negative view regarding CASS...
Personally, I don't have a negative view of Cass, but I just don't feel that the school is worth the bucks given that there are other alternatives in Continental Europe which are not as expensive and place as good as Cass or even better. If I were willing to pay more than GBP20k in tuition fees, I would prefer to pay it to a top program like LSE's Fin or A&F and the usual suspects.
Plenty of companies recruit at RSM, but keep in mind that this is for positions in the Netherlands.
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Thank you for any insight. Basically, i have unconditional offers from both, therefore it is just about my choice. I have also offers from St. Andrews (Finance and management) and University of Edinburgh (Financial Management). But I shortlisted only RSM and Cass.
To answer the questions above: I do not speak Dutch. I am student from Slovakia. My GMAT was 620. i was considering retake, but it would take me another 2 months to prepare and everything. in that time, my chances will be really small. I considered LSE, Imperial and SSE. I was unsuccessful at Imperial. I have not applied for LSE, as i think i do not have strong GMAT and not so good grades from undergraduate. In terms of SSE, I think I am also not competitive. Additionally, they do decision after March so this would put me into risk, as i need to make decision in Cass till end of January. Maybe i underestimate myself, but as I was unsuccessful at Imperial, it will not be better at LSE.
For LSE at least, in previous years the intake would still be open around April which should give you plenty of time to work on improving your gmat score. You can give the LSE admissions office a call and ask them when they expect the intake to close. With a solid score of 650 and a GPA equivalent to 2:1 you should be able to get an offer for the Accounting and Finance program.
Also, consider making a trip to visit the school and talk to a few admissions people. Works wonders.
There are plenty of RSM alumni in the city. It all comes down to how you perform in the interviews you get because you will for sure get interviews. Cass does have the advantage that you are often times just a few tube stops away from meeting someone for a coffee so you can always network more easily than from Rotterdam.
Yes, that is true. But is it really advantage that is worth that money? Many people say that there are many people from RSM in City, but is it target school for City companies? I am just trying to understand whether RSM or Cass is better if i want to pursue career in London later. If the answer were that Cass is better, i would be willing to pay those fees, as master study is long term investment. If the chances are pretty much the same, RSM is definitely better ROI.
placement from RSM is pretty solid though obviously with a tendency towards dutch students and BeneLux related teams. However I have met enough non-dutch that went to RSM and now work in London anywhere from top BB to PE to AM, whatever floats your boat. Will require a bit of leg work from your end but with solid internships you have a good shot at any firm in London really.
Get the GMAT up
Try LSE, if not then RSM. I know many people from CASS grad and undergraduate, not that impressive and especially not worth the cost.
Initially, I had the same dilemma, but finally narrowed down my choice to other schools and cut off both you mention. However, if I were in your shoes, I'd say RSM as well. Its value is obviously higher considering tuition. Nevetheless, I was surprised to see a lot of Cass graduates on Linkedin while checking education of students working in BB. Moreover, one female grad from my country (Eastern Eu) not being eligible to work in EU got place in ML in London ... after msc in management.
Thank you. Julia, which university have you chosen if I can ask?
Of course, I consider: Bocconi (finance) - but still in doubts, try to get more inside information SSE (finance or economics) - but way too expensive for non-eu, almost impossible to get scholarship (for me), but it's free for you (am i right?), so I'd choose this one, If I were you Some research universities. To be honest, everything depends on your preference. Don't look at university only. Btw, If you are still interested, I'll share my thoughts in pm...after getting two more bananas.
PM'd.
why not just post here?
London (Cass) vs Rotterdam (RSM) (Originally Posted: 04/09/2014)
Hello all,
I am looking for an m&a professional career in London. Internship in BB followed by full-time boutique placement is my medium-term professional career objective.
I have an offer in Cass's and RSM's MSc in Finance. Neglecting the financial-related difference between these business schools (Cass' fee is 15x of that of RSM's) from valuation, Which one would you consider best?
Thank you for your help,
A finance guy who neglects the financial difference :) Regardless, my vote goes for RSM And a whole other question is if you need a masters at all - if u can get into a finance role right away, do it. Work > Uni
I understand you're still planning to do that internship in a BB? May I ask whether you have any related experience yet? Also, why would you go to a BB as an intern and then move to a boutique? Firms try to fill slots from their prior interns so you should maybe consider interning where you'd also like to work later on. Just some thoughts...
Now to your question: I'd vote RSM as well on the grounds of having a strong reputation (not stellar but strong) and being incredible value for money... Cass is a good school, too, but the only advantage I see over RSM is location but anyway you probably won't have time to do an internship during study period and the benfit of easier networking is not worth the money.
Cass. Why the fuck would you do a masters in Amsterdam to land a gig in London, that too at a boutique firm? Which London boutique firm flies out to RSM to recruit - you high?
London is better:)
Have attended the bachelor programme in RSM and can say that the Finance Master at RSM will definitely help you get a position in London. I cannot give you advice on the actual programme but from my own research I would say RSM is a better choice than Cass.
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