Citi IBD Groups - How is deal flow and experience?
Wanted to know everybodys opinion on the best 3 groups to get into at Citi in terms of analyst experience, dealflow, prestige, and exit opportunities (all lumped in together). I know there are some threads out there that I have read through but just want a simple list of 3 groups based on the most up-to-date happenings at the firm. This is EXCLUDING M&A, since I believe the group is full from returning summers already.
Thanks.
M&A is not full with returning summers yet, they have a couple more spots.
M&A, Consumer, and Energy are all good groups... think about what your interests are and go with that over what you think will help you out most down the road. If you work hard and are at a great firm and impress your team, they will go to bat for you when it comes to exit opps...
How is their Healthcare group in Asia and the US?
M&A is not full btw.
Everybody goes into Citi IBD as a generalist, correct?
Yes, apart from those who had return SA offers to their groups.
yep every1 goes into generalist except SA's.. great to hear there are some spots still available in M&A but its obviously going to be a long shot with every1 shooting for it... my real inquiry was about the best product/industry groups after accounting for M&A, all else being equal... any suggestions? have heard everything from consumer to industrials to energy to communications, etc. and wanted to know if you had to just pick 3 what would they be?
After the ubs lift it is going to be: Comm, Industrials, Energy.
Just do those 3 and you absolutely cannot go wrong.
not consumer/retail?
Not sure about this bank and the group. You should ask what deals they have done?
What is certain is that UBS had the top energy group along with Barcap and their entire team went to Citi recently. Citi Comm has always been top of the street and Citi Industrial has been strong too and competes with GS mostly (see: Southwest buyside advisor role in Airtran M&A).
FIG and Industrials are the biggest groups at Citi, but FIG pidgeonholes and usually isn't worth it unless it is Goldman Sachs FIG.
Yep - Citi is def bringing the big energy guns over from UBS, my impression was that they would be run down in Houston though rather than NY?
From what I've heard this is correct; I believe their energy group will be based almost entirely out of Houston.
When did I say they were in NYC? Go with Industrials, Comm, and Consumer then for NYC.
Gotcha - thanks for the input, so the consensus seems to be some combination of communications, consumer, and industrials for NYC, any other groups to keep an eye on? thanks again every1
Citi M&A Global Industrial Group is very strong and well regarded
^Industrials is in Chicago.
the NY office definitely has a fairly substantial industrials group as well, i think its the largest group in the office
same goes for london, global industrials group is pretty big here too
Any other London specific advice?
What is the case for Citi in HK? Thoughts very much appreciated!
How about Citi London for SA? Which group have the highest conversion rate or hiring needs? For SA, big group vs. small one. Which is better?
Any advice?
Thanks!
Best NYC Citi groups:
M&A Communications, Consumer, Energy, Industrials. Everything else
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Citi IBD Groups - Which groups have the best or prestigious name? (Originally Posted: 02/05/2013)
I haven't seen a recent post about this, so any new, relevant answers would be appreciated.
I wanted to know what groups at Citi have the best name, and how they compare for exit ops to the buy-side. I've been looking into TMT and Sponsors, but info on any group would be valuable.
Is sponsors worth going into at Citi? Have they rebuilt enough deal flow/relationships since '07? I know their TMT group is pretty strong, but would the exit ops really only be for tech focused pe shops?
Thanks guys
Citi M&A is still very good.
yeah, i'm aware of M&A but i'm more interested in coverage groups rather than product groups. anyone else?
Their NY TMT is really good. Their SF TMT (just Tech) is terrible.
Strongest groups at Citi are M&A, Consumer, Industrials, TMT, Sponsors from what I hear. Probably M&A / Consumer for exit opps.
why do you say consumer has better exit opps than sponsors or even TMT?
Do these comments hold true for the London office?
NYC or london?
Any more up-to-date info on industry groups? Insights especially on the Sponsors or Healthcare group is appreciated.
Anyone knowledgable on this matter?
Consumer retail at Citi isn't as solid as it was. I'd go industrials or sponsors. In either of those teams you're sure to get on enough m&a and refinancing mandates to talk about at interviews 10 - 12 months into the job. I would steer clear of Citi SF but Citi London isn't too bad (still strong next to barcap DB CS and UBS which says something). I think their London consumer team might be at MS Nordic m&a now btw, 2008 must've seen a mass exodus of sorts
What are your thought on Power/Energy? Do your comments on Industrials + Sponsors hold true for the London office?
Any thoughts on Citi's FIG group?
FIG is very strong. Arguably top franchise
Just FYI- The culture at Citi FIG is absolutely awful. Realize that the people/culture you surround yourself with can make or break your experience. But to be honest I think most FIG have bad cultures across the Street.
I know a recent Citi FIG analyst tell me more than half his FIG analysts quit before their 2 yrs were up - it was that bad - and analysts didn't get along with each other either.
Any idea what makes the culture so awful? Hours, type of work, MDs, all of the above? Thanks
More hate on the FIG bankers...
As someone interested in FIG, I'd enjoy hearing about some of the benefits of FIG banking
Citi IBD Groups NYC (Originally Posted: 05/04/2015)
I just attended a summer analyst placement day at Citi. I'm wondering what the tops groups are at Citi taking into account exit opportunities/hours/MDs/deal flow. I'm currently looking at these 6 groups.
Consumer, Sponsors, Real Estate, Media & Telecom, Industrials, M&A
Also, I'm curious about the real estate group. I have gotten a lot of mixed reviews from it.
Thanks.
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Have heard really good things about the dealflow in Industrials and M&A. Consumer/Retail was on the Tim Horton's-Burger King deal last year, so I'd assume they aren't too shabby either dealflow wise.
As for PE placement (if that's your thing), M&A has placed the best, but go with the people you like. As for hours, Citi works pretty hard, in general.
Have heard M&A, Industrials, and TMT are solid; TMT probably works the hardest out of all 3. Also heard Healthcare is up there with Industrials/TMT for coverage, any reason you aren't considering them? They were on Shire/Abbvie before it blew up, I think.
Source: friend is 2nd year analyst at Citi, feel free to PM for additional questions/specifics and I can ask him
M&A. M&T. Sponsors. Industrials. RE. Consumer
m&a / industrials hands down. Consumer and TMT are small . healthcare had big q1 but placement and culture are poor.
Exit opportunities to PE out of Citi NY are best from M & A, Industrials & Consumer.
Good luck. Culture across several groups in Citi is apparently atrocious. Huge fans of the fear-based model, in which analysts are forced to crank as seniors (assocs, VPs) are barking down their throats to get it done.
Hardlyworking- think you chose the wrong industry, pal.
considering i do not work at Citi, not sure how you came to that conclusion
How is Citi Chicago regarded?
I've worked closely with the Citi real estate guys many times and have a buddy on the desk. They're at the top of most league tables and I've heard they outperform most groups within the bank in terms of revenue. They work long hours, even for IB standards, but exit ops are strong. Keep in mind that REITs are extremely capital intensive and, while Citi does get strong M&A mandates, a sizable portion of the group's deals are capital markets related. That said, Citi's REIT equity platform usually tops the charts and so does its REIT financing platform, which is somewhat of a hybrid between IBD coverage and CMBS / large loan.
PM if you'd like - I know the Citi real estate teams well.
Citi Investment Banking Groups (Originally Posted: 12/16/2014)
Does anyone know where I can find a list of Citi's Investment Banking groups? There is not one on their website.
I found this from a Citi job posting on my school's career site: ‐ Alternative Assets ‐ Consumer ‐ Diversified Industrials ‐ Financial Institutions ‐ Healthcare ‐ Power ‐ Real Estate ‐ Technology/Media/Telecom (TMT) Also, within investment banking, Mergers & Acquisitions Group supports the efforts of our industry
Citi groups and exit opps (Originally Posted: 11/18/2015)
I've ran a few searches now and there surprisingly wasn't much post-2008/09 content about Citi groups and exit opps. I know Citi M&A is their top group, but curious about other strong groups and exit opps for the firm as a whole/specific groups.
From what I know - although could be/probably am wrong about some of this; just from older threads - top groups at Citi other than M&A are Industrials, Consumer Retail, FIG, and Financial Sponsors (which they call FEG). Any idea if this is true and what sorts of deal flow and exit opps these groups see?
Bump.
Bump again
I would definitely say M&A and AAG (alternative assets group or financial sponsors) have the best placement. AAG is a smaller group with an awesome culture. I'd also probably have to say that analysts in that group work half as any other group while still having the same exit ops.
After that, Industrials and Consumer are probably the best. Consumer is a much more bro-y culture while Industrials is a huge group that has a little bit of everything.
Are you going for a summer analyst spot?
Also feel free to DM me. I can give you more specific insight on groups you're interested in.
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+1
Worst groups in Citi IBD (Originally Posted: 01/10/2008)
What groups would an in-coming Citigroup FT IBD analyst to start next summer want to stay away from during the group selection process? Are there any groups that would be materially detrimental to buy-side exit ops, particularly PE and Distressed Debt HF? Thanks for your help
any back office role. product control
stay away from any back office role. i learned a long time ago that when you can make the company money, you make money.
The janitorial strategies group.
Citigroup Industry and Product Groups (Originally Posted: 06/28/2006)
Does anyone have any perspective on what the best groups are at Citigroup?
m&a is by far the best. let meknow if you are interested
kelystein,
I am interested in M&A at Citigroup. I will be a senior in college in the fall and am very interested in doing M&A and Citigroup is one of the banks I would like to interview with. Do you currently work there (or have you in the past)? If you could help me out with some questions, I would greatly appreciate it... and let me know if you would rather talk about it off the message board.
Thanks
both of them are really strong on the street....
Need help choosing groups - Citi IBD (Originally Posted: 04/28/2012)
I'm going to be joining the big C after graduation. Wasn't a summer analyst so have to go through the whole group selection process. I'm interested in the tech group but it doesn't seem like they're that strong in that area.
I know that M&A, Comms, Consumer are usually the top groups but I've heard some less than flattering stuff about consumer. I'm also concerned that the competition to get into those groups for FT will be a lot tougher than it will be for other groups.
There have been quite a few discussions on this already, but none of it seems that reliable/it's all based on what people here read in previous discussions... I'm even a little skeptical about the opinions of analysts I've spoken to. Seems like everyone has an incentive to toot their own horn.
If anyone has any information or firsthand knowledge about this I'd really appreciate it.
I've heard Citi M&A is one of the best.
Look at league tables a little maybe? I prefer energy and industrials when it comes to industry groups, but I think ECM or a product group would be good as well. (ECM has shorter hours in general)
Groups you mentioned are some of the top groups, but at most bulge brackets you're going to have decent dealflow in most groups.
FinSpon is pretty good there, I hear. Avoid LevFin, though. The Sponsors group at Citi does all the heavy lifting.
You may hear good things about each, but you may not like them personally. Go with what interests you if you can. I'm not in a BB so I'm not sure how group selection works, but I do know that it helps a lot if you enjoy your industry.
Won't your group placement depend primarily on which groups have a need? (i.e. the one's where not every SA from the previous year was hired/came back.)
Agree withSECFinance Citi M&A are one of the best.
Citi Chicago Groups? (Originally Posted: 09/24/2010)
Hey guys,
I was wondering what groups are in Citi IB in chicago? Are there any product groups? Also what groups are best? I did a search and only found info from 4 years ago...thanks!
I know there is an automotive group, although I can't confirm if it's "the best" or not.
Groups in Citi LA (Originally Posted: 01/19/2008)
I did a search and couldn't find any specifics on which groups operate and are the best in Citi's LA office?
Any info would be appreciated.
Industrials/Metals & Mining
Healthcare
Consumer
The dealflow is really mixed though. There aren't defined groups and they see a bit of everything.
quick question top groups at Citi CS (Originally Posted: 11/06/2013)
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Used to be M&A at Citi (as of late 2000s). Haven't heard a definitive update.
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Obviously from CS you have sponsors but also pretty strong tech as well.
Top IBanking Groups at Citi in NYC (Originally Posted: 07/20/2014)
Hello everyone,
I know there have been similar posts in the past on this topic but it's been a while since this info has been updated. What are the strongest groups at Citi in NY in terms of deal flow, exit opps, and overall culture? Historically it seems the top groups at the bank are 1) M&A 2) Industrials 3) Alternative Assets (Sponsors) 4) Consumer Goods
Is this reflective of the current state at Citi? What are your thoughts on these groups and others?
bump
there is a post on this from a couple days ago.
m&a hands down - exit opps unrivaled at Citi
top groups at Citi (Originally Posted: 01/16/2007)
any info on top groups at citi?
You obviously want to be at Citi NYC for starters. Best location for Citi.
M&A, FIG, TMT, and Industrials.
I second Bateman, with the possible addition of Comm.
anyone know about lev fin?
in regards to best groups, does anyone have additonal insight? I have heard they have good sponsors group ...true?
The groups at Citigroup (Originally Posted: 01/19/2007)
How would you rank these (in regards to best groups to be in as an analyst)for Citigroup? Any insight into any of the groups is appreciated.
* Consumer * Healthcare * Technology,Media &Telecom * Financial Entrepreneurs Group/Private Equity (Sponsors) * <span class="keyword_link"><a href="/finance-dictionary/what-is-financial-institutions-group-FIG">Financial Institutions Group</a></span> * Global Industrials Group * Energy, Power & Chemicals * Real Estate & Lodging * Latin America * Mergers & Acquisitions * The Financial Strategy GroupI would focus more on where the deal flow is and what you're personally interested in. You can find info for FIG at SNL Financial.
Citi IBD Groups - Advice on which group to join (Originally Posted: 04/16/2011)
Hi,
I am going to be a summer analyst at Citi in IBD this year, and was looking to get some advice on which group to join? I met people from Healthcare and Comms, and liked both those groups. Any info on those two groups? Especially Healthcare? How does it rank on the street?
Thanks for the help
why not M&A?
Is there a reason you particularly like Healthcare?
The people in healthcare seemed to be people I could work well with. Also, I am more interested in industry coverage rather than product. I am open to other suggestions for top groups too, but I also wanted to know how healthcare ranked
Healthcare is 12th
I have heard that, at least at the analyst level, Citi is doing pretty well. I am not sure where they are on the league tables, I have heard the analysts are being kept busy on actual deals. HC seems like a good sector to be in going forward. Regardless of the reform's outcome, it is going to stir up a ton of activity for banks 2012-2014.
Hands down Citi Energy
Comms is the best industry group. Then probably HC. Comms is a sweatshop, HC isn't much better.
Citi Chicago groups (Originally Posted: 01/29/2013)
About to interview with them in a week.
I exhausted searches here. Used Bloomberg terminals to look for their deals in Chi but no luck.
Any opinions on their groups/culture/deals? Seems like every BB has an industrial group in Chicago but not sure if it is the same for Citi. Thanks!
Citi in Chicago is focused on industrials. They hired a couple bigwigs from UBS about a year back, so dealflow shouldn't be an issue and it seems to be a strong office.
Were those the UBS guys out of the Chicago office?
Industrials focus - know your auto/transportation/chemicals verticals.
Clients include Caterpillar and they were lead advisor on CAT's recent f**k-up in China (woops).
Thanks for the info guys. Had no idea about the CAT deal. Time to search for that.
In M&A, at Least, Citi Is on Top (Originally Posted: 03/09/2009)
http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/06/in-ma-at-least-citi-is-on-…
few days late on this one buddy
Leggo do you have nothing better to do than to constantly post on WSO? You've posted 190 times since last week. Give it a rest.
Maybe my $300 worth of Citi stock will pay out?
aspiring king kong
IBchimp, I totally agree with you... This kid has just found out about this forum and has nothing better to do instead of constantly posting things he reads on the net here. He gets some news on the net and post it here as his comments to sound a genius... like the "Investment Banking business model" post... Leggo: if you are so good, why do you still don't have a internship offer?
ouch.
but I do have to agree with Leggo on this one--- by the time of this post, Morgan Stanley already pushed Citi out of the top spot
lui:
I guess I do post quite a lot on the forum... But what does that matter? Why start unnecessary shit in response to others' actions when it doesn't add any value to the forum?
What on earth is the "Investment Banking business model" post?
I've never claimed that I was "good". I do exactly what you say. I simply relate what I have gained from news, experience, friends, etc. and post it on the wall in response to people's questions. Isn't that what WSO is essentially for? (On the other hand, you could consider my posts spam for the simple fact that I post quite a bit. Nonetheless, my comments are relatively useful compared to your bullshit comments like the one above)
No need to hate on those who are successful and received offers. I may not have gotten a BB IBD offer, but quite satisfied with the offer I have recently accepted for a BB CapMarkets gig.
I remember the Investment Banking Business Model post. That was very funny; although it wasn't Leggo's post.
http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/investment-banking-business-model
It belongs to mergerarb15 who (at the time) seemed to be posting mindlessly all over the place; so I understand the confusion lui. If any of you haven't read the IB Business Model thread, I recommend it. It's good for a laugh for the first few responses, then the OP gets very annoying.
Kinda silly to look at a M&A ranking made before Monday. I think there was some pharma deal announced...(sarcasm intended)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ai_EiJLgr5yY&refer=…
I don't know why this is even story. Citi's problem has never been its investment banking operations. They have a great business, just a crap balance sheet.
I second that Bowser
Citi ibd strongest groups (Originally Posted: 01/26/2013)
This is for Western Europe
None Citi is dying.
Coming from a guy not even in the industry.
Does anyone have any ideas of what I can do this summer? I've landed 0 interviews after that 1 BB IBD interview even though I've been applying/networking for months now. Really don't get whats going wrong for me/what I don't have that they want.
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Please rank the banks in order of who ignored you most
M&A is the best group at Citi. Industrials and Sponsors are supposed to be solid as well, from what I heard from an analyst there.
Edit: Not sure why I was downvoted...
What city? And incidentally, how do you think exit opportunities generally play in terms of hours... What are you expecting, easy hours and good exit opps? And what exit opps are you after?
Sponsors team..
Sorry for my comment above.
Citi is a good firm. Congrats on the offer. Go to the team that you like best in terms of the people. From what I've understood the people matter more then the actual group you are covering. :)
Their Oil and Gas group is pretty strong. But, that is all in Houston.
In NYC: FSG and Industrials
Anyone familiar with their Chicago office?
I'm told Industrials, M&A, and FIG have the best deal flow. From a culture perspective, I'd go with M&A or Consumer.
Note: FIG at Citi is strictly silo'd. They segment it between Insurance, Banks, and Asset Managers/Payment Processors. So FIG deal flow is highly dependent on the individual group.
NYC may be different but in London industry teams do their own M&A. Unless you count the UK team a M&A I course
NYC M&A is good.
Financial Entrepreneurs (Sponsors) and M&A are their top two groups. Global comm used to be the next best but I think it has been consolidated into TMT
Citi IBD groups - Best groups here? (Originally Posted: 01/30/2010)
Best groups at Citi? There are some old threads but has group ranking changed given the talent that's left? obviously M&A, but what else?
Looking for dealflow and international exit ops if that makes sense. Looking to spend 2 years in the US then go international.
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Hi NYB,
Highly rated European Groups are FIG and Industrials.
thanks for the insight bach. i get the sense the industrials is quite strong at Citi nyc as well. is that true?
Well, I better know the European Groups, but yes I think so, and it's likely to get into from the US, because of a high rate of "exchange" analysts / associates.
US Groups:
M&A Comms Tech Industrials Consumer FIG (Lost a lot of bankers recently to Citadel though)
excuse my ignorance, but what's Comms?
communications.
Comms and Healthcare are pretty strong groups with cool kids
In HK the stronger groups are TMT (consisently top 2 on the street), Industrials and FIG is certainly on the rise.
Dunston, by saying stronger do you mean more deal flows? I heard GIG is also doing pretty good.
thanks for the input everyone, bump.
^^^
Yes - they have the most relative deal flow and are also larger in group size, which is a direct result of the number of mandates won.
GIG / Industrials are one and the same.
Can I get a bump on this? People have said Communications is a good group, is there a sense of how it ranks with other firms' communications groups?
also where exactly is communications? don't see it listed in the link
http://www.oncampus.citi.com/careers/north_america/institutional_client…
It falls within Technology, Media and Telecom [quote=NYB]also where exactly is communications? don't see it listed in the link
http://www.oncampus.citi.com/careers/north_america/institutional_client…]
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Ohh, ok i see.
How is Citi's consumer group?
From what I hear Consumer is tops on the street.
I thought BAML's consumer was the best. Any thoughts?
Top Consumer groups = GS/Citi/BAML.
Top Consumer groups = Centerview, GS, Laz, Citi, PWP, DB in that order. BAML has Kenneth Tuchman, who was a rockstar at Lehman and Wasserstein but the group as a whole is no where near the aforementioned shops.
Wasserstein Perella was by far the best when it existed so just track where the top bankers there went. Lehman used to be good too.. UBS was number 1 on the street when Blair was there but he is now at Centerview.
As far as Citi HK, its an absolute joke.. Industrial sucks. Their former Head, Shariar (sp?) left the firm literally 3 days after he cashed out his stock without saying goodbye to ANYONE on his team. FIG is a joke now that McNamara has left. He was a really nice guy that everyone liked but was pushed out due to internal politics. Their China team is going through struggles right now as the two co heads, Eugene Qian and Rodney Tsang, don't like each other. Basically a lot of internal power struggles across the board and their coverage is terrible. TMT is the only bright spot left.
Citi consumer lost a lot of big hitters. It's nowhere near what it was in 08 and 07
Does anyone know about their Financial Sponsors group? Which group has the best exit opportunities (PE/VC/HF)?
Thanks.
Interested in how their sponsors group stacks up against other bulge brackets. Would m&a have better exit ops?
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Citi does not have a financial sponsors group... its pronounced the fag group and the name speaks for itself...
How's Citi Industrials Group in HK? Compared to BAML's Industrials in HK? Thanks!
..healthcare and industrials
..M&A and industrials
Hi everyone,
I'm joining Citi IBD London as a SA. Quite interested in Healthcare and Industrials.
Are they good teams? Anyone know the people/culture, dealflow, hours and conversion rate in these 2 groups?
Any view would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Is Citi's IBD housed under the Institutional Client Group? What about the Corp Banking group? any difference?
Citi M&A back on top?? (Originally Posted: 04/11/2011)
Bit of a lurker here but I've just been going through the Reuters Quarterly M&A review and I am simply astounded at Citi's rebound. They're back at the top of the tables where they were a couple of years ago. Hell, they're #2 for worldwide completed M&A deals which is phenomenal.
Did anyone else not see this coming at all?
http://online.thomsonreuters.com/DealsIntelligence/Content/Files/1Q11_M…
Thanks for the pdf.
GS sucked?? Deals outside of the top 15 largest deals accounted for 75% of their deal value, and they're still #4. That to me is very impressive. T-mobile/AT&T deals come and go to every bank every year - I want to be in a place that does a shitload of deals with a shitload of clients - and that's why GS is consistently good. And that's why they also generate the highest fees per capita - because they're reaping lead advisor fees on a slightly lower total volume of a higher number of deals - instead of co-advisor fees shared with 6 other banks on a couple of huge deals. Citi did only 60 deals...that's a full 1/3 less than what Goldman did. Take out AIG and T-Mobile and they suck.
It'd be interesting to see them unseat JPM as the "#3 BB", but you can't but too much stock in 1 quarter. If you try hard enough, you can find a time frame that will put just about any bank first on the league tables.
Clear US bank domination.
In Europe obviously only banks involved in the AT&T/T-Mob. deal could rank well in the 1st quarter.
Fuck, Morgan's been killing it. Still, only one quarter so far.
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