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nickleeson's picture

citi/wach. bankers who will survive?

citi/wach. bankers who will survive?

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Clueless Wanderer's picture

I'm fairly certain that Citi

I'm fairly certain that Citi is only buying Wachovia's retail operations and not the brokerage (Wachovia Securities).

Even if you are referring to investment banking...what do you honestly think?

If you are referring to the commercial aspect, then things will get interesting...so I'm not sure

ChelseaFC85's picture

not true....citi most

not true....citi most definetly bought wachovia's commercial AND investment banking businesses. I think it is clear that there will be many people getting the ax at both firms, unfortunately.

Clueless Wanderer's picture

Really? I could have sworn I

Really? I could have sworn I read that it wasn't buying investment banking...interesting..

Edit: Ah you are right I see now.

"CHARLOTTE, NC—Wachovia today announced intentions to sell its retail bank, corporate and investment bank and wealth management businesses to Citigroup."

Jeez...some seniors just lost their job offers...

indian-banker's picture

the only units not being

the only units not being sold are the AG edwards brokerage and Evergreen investments

Excelster's picture

Can anyone figure out why

Can anyone figure out why Citi would not buy AG Edwards? Citi could have one of the best retail distribution systems in the country if they do.

bearing's picture

Citi has Smith Barney

Citi has Smith Barney

LAWM's picture

ag is real retail. i mean

ag is real retail. i mean retail retail 10k and 5k

Cornelius's picture

well wachovia and citi have

well wachovia and citi have had different focuses in investment banking.

citi tends to focus on the bigger deals and wachovia some of the smaller advisory assignments.

so due to the focus on different clients, wach jobs should be fine. Or I would assume so..

ledger123's picture

you dont really think

you dont really think wachovia jobs are gonna be "fine", do you? the truth is that wachovia is a mediocre bank at best and there WILL be cuts.

NCtoNYC's picture

Wachovia

ledger123 wrote:

you dont really think wachovia jobs are gonna be "fine", do you? the truth is that wachovia is a mediocre bank at best and there WILL be cuts.

Significant cuts will almost certainly be made on both sides.

Also, mediocre compared to what?

stevenbn's picture

Lots of cuts in Citi's

Lots of cuts in Citi's retail bank and lots of cuts at Wachovia's investment bank

stevenbn's picture

Lots of cuts in Citi's

Lots of cuts in Citi's retail bank and lots of cuts at Wachovia's investment bank

ledger123's picture

wachovia isnt exactly a

wachovia isnt exactly a powerhouse in the investment banking world. so to answer your question, its mediocre compared to a lot of other banks out there.

NCtoNYC's picture

Wach

ledger123 wrote:

wachovia isnt exactly a powerhouse in the investment banking world. so to answer your question, its mediocre compared to a lot of other banks out there.

I just wasn't sure who you were comparing it to when you said it was "mediocre," and I wanted some clarity. I agree it's not a powerhouse, but it's certainly better than a lot of banks. Mediocre compared to the BBs? Definitely. Compared to the majority of investment banks in the country? I'd argue against that.

ledger123's picture

majority? take out bb's and

majority? take out bb's and wachovia is still inferior to many banks. would you take wachovia over any of the boutiques? no. i wouldnt even take it over a good number of mm firms.

wachovia is DEF not better than the majority of the banks. i'm not saying its horrible, i'm just saying there are better opportunities out there.