Condoleezza Rice's name is being floated around as Romney's VP pick, or at least she is on his short list.
I wanted to get what WSO's thoughts are on a Rice pick. Would this keep back the race baiter pundits? Would this bring any minority votes to Romney? Does it get the base excited to go out and vote?
FYI, Intrade is giving this a 6.5% chance. Knowing she is at least on the short list may make buying some shares worth the risk.
This would pretty much be the equivalent of what McCain did with Palin trying to get women to vote. Now the equation would theoretically provide women+black people. I don't think this has a very good chance to work because women are going to vote democrat anyways.
Fun fact. If women weren't allowed to vote, there would have been a Republican president elected every time dating back to Barry Goldwater. Too bad they can.
Tell that to your Mother and let us know what she says back to you.....
She is a homemaker and doesn't vote regardless.
I have to disagree with the Rice:Palin equivalence. CR actually has substantive, relevant experience for the job.
fwiw, I do think she could possibly garner some independent votes, though not necessarily along ethnic or gender lines.
I don't think this helps him much. The people that are open to voting for him are doing so because they feel he has the right agenda and the capabiliites to carry it out, or they fear the consequences of 4 more years of Obama.
I don't think many black voters are going to not vote for a black president just because they could vote for a ticket with a black VP...not to mention that Condoleezza Rice is necessarily very popular among the majority of black voters because she tends to be too conservative for their tastes. I think she falls into the same "Uncle Tom" bucket that Herman Cain and Allen West are thrown in. That is to say, they are often viewed as sellouts who are merely puppets of the white. And just to be clear, I don't believe that, it's merely my analysis of the situation.
I also think that a black and/or female VP might hurt Romney because it could appear as though he is simply pandering to blacks/women voters. Who knows, I could be way off.
I'm fairly certain he will go with Rubio because that nearly guarantees him Florida, which is one of the most important swing states. It also will help deliver more of the Hispanic vote than Romney would otherwise get (which probably takes directly from Obama's base) and it gives the far right conservatives some reassurance they aren't supporting a wishy-washy wolf in sheep's clothing (read: Romney).
Regards
This idea is about 4 years too late...
If the voter that Romney is seeking to sway is the independent, middle-of-the-road, voter, adding Condoleezza Rice to the ticket is not going to accomplish that task. She is too closely associated with the George W. Bush Administration, which continues to have a bad aftertaste across the political spectrum, Republicans included. Furthermore, given Romney's already weak credentials with conservatives, adding Dr. Rice's views to the ticket would seal his coffin, in their view, as a social moderate. That won't help as far as turnout is concerned.
she's a fake and a nitwit. find records of this woman's interview with Russian radio. for someone who claims fluency she lost no time in proving herself to be an overpromoted retard.
why is everyone kissing her ass so hard? to prove that they aren't racist?
LOL @ guys who can't maintain discipline who want to be in global power politics.
For an academic who bills herself as a Russia/USSR expert, to have such piss poor language skills is an immediate disqualifier and reveals the whole fakery of her career. How does a scholar of the USSR study original sources when her language skills stink so bad? Language skills are the central component of her skillset as an area expert. How she got promoted even that far at Stanford can only be explained by her being the conservative incarnation of the unqualified affirmative action hire. In this sense, she is indeed an overpromoted nitwit, and the by the standards of the men/women who have held her offices, she is a retard.
I will concede that it takes a certain kind of cunning to climb the greasy poles of academic and government politics, and she probably has that cunning, her being a nitwit notwithstanding. Bush made it a habit to hire nitwits like Michael Brown for FEMA or Alberto Gonzales for Justice because the man is too insecure to be around people with the intellect and character to push back against him when he is doing something stupid (e.g., Paul O'Neill against his insane tax cuts, or John Ashcroft against the worst features of the PATRIOT Act).
If Romney is going after the kind of vote Condi will bring in, why not just resurrect Dan Quayle's career. He would hardly be doing worse.
Rubio gets him Florida, Rob Portman might be able to help with Ohio. TPaw, Christie, and Ryan all are strong picks due to their track records (the latter two would be a fantastic 2016 ticket).
But Condi gives him...nothing. The association with GWB might even hurt his campaign. He is not getting the African American vote nor the female vote with Condi alone. Although Condi has foreign policy experience (which Romney does not), her track record isn't great.
CPHBravo nailed it: Romney has to win on the economy. A VP pick needs to augment Romney's strength as a businessman, while making Obama/Biden look like career bureaucrats.
I have thought about Romney maybe eschewing current politicians altogether, and recruiting somebody from the private sector. Or Ron Paul: it would alienate the base, but Paul can get ~15% of registered voters in the booth...many of whom might otherwise lean towards Obama. And the base has no choice but to vote for Romney.
Who's to say Rice would definitely even accept if it was offered to her. The VP position isn't an impactful job, yet still has to do all that campaigning to get there. Compare that to her already being Secretary of State, which is an impactful job
Romney isn't going to win. Simply pick a Hispanic VP so you can build a relationship with the fastest growing voting block. Hispanics are naturally aligned with conservatives anyway.
Obama wins because he has a blind and unquestioning following and he is sucks, but isn't horrible. The same retards that elected this puppet will elect him again. People just go with the flow.
Ehh if the economy keeps up the shitty 60-80k jobs numbers Obama has a good shot at losing. The young people who voted him in in 2008 are now unemployed after graduating college and completely lost faith in politics
We need to get Gary Johnson some TV time for the national debates. Unfortunately he needs 15% in national polls to get invited. Even though he prob wouldn't win, it'd be nice to make both candidates be more moderate and not so god damn politically extreme
Rice has already been on record saying that she is not interested in the job, and doesn't really want to be a politician. Of course, she could change her mind, but I would imagine that she won't. Usually, when you declare something like that on camera, you're serious about it.
And the comparing her to Palin is absolutely absurd. Rice is intelligent, dignified, cultured and has the credentials.
Rice doesn't really solve too many issues for Romney. He is not going to get the black vote because of her. He already closed that deal in front of the NAACP this week.
Condie would be a terrible choice. No idea why she's even brought up. The only vote she could appeal to is the hardcore conservatives who are still in love with Bush, but they're all going to vote for Romney anyways. Blacks don't really like her. It's already proven that choosing a woman for VP won't win the race. Look, you don't need to worry about the hardcore conservative vote. Obama is the Anti-Christ to these people. The Tea Partiers would vote for Hilary before they'd vote for Obama. That's how much they hate the man. Obama is like the only person you could put a Mormon up against and potentially win. Romney needs the blacks, Hispanics, women, etc. But he'll never get that vote because the Obama campaign will succeed in painting him as a privileged opportunist who has never worked hard a day in his life. The Obama campaign will play that card over and over and over again and that will win over the masses regardless of the economy. I'm just being realistic here.
Enim vero laborum atque sunt. Quaerat error assumenda nihil harum qui. Non commodi maiores minus aut quos qui. Natus facilis esse at praesentium rerum non. Quibusdam nisi occaecati magnam reprehenderit unde. Facere veniam hic et non quod consequatur exercitationem provident.
Atque assumenda a velit et. Eum veniam in omnis animi nulla sequi. Libero esse voluptate voluptatem non rerum commodi commodi. Iure illo dolor dolores cum quae sequi tempore.
Ut et rem rem. Aut facere in adipisci rerum. Voluptatem omnis praesentium autem in ducimus tenetur. Reiciendis velit nulla ab quia reiciendis distinctio alias.
Et dignissimos itaque perferendis eos nostrum laudantium et. Incidunt aliquid dolor amet animi voluptate. Nihil provident possimus aperiam voluptatem laborum est maiores.
See All Comments - 100% Free
WSO depends on everyone being able to pitch in when they know something. Unlock with your email and get bonus: 6 financial modeling lessons free ($199 value)
or Unlock with your social account...