David Einhorn's IB Experience
Got my hands on a PDF version of Einhorn's book. Thought I'd share the part where he talks about his investment banking days. A good re-read for those of you who have already read his book:
I started to look for a job through on-campus recruiting. I met with a lot of companies, including The Company—the Central Intelligence Agency. I received a few offers and decided to take the one as an investment banking analyst at Donaldson, Lufkin & Jenrette (DLJ), even though it offered the lowest salary. I chose it because I liked the people I met during recruiting. I later realized I needed to work on my judgment.
I had two miserable years at DLJ, which provided a different kind of education. Working there felt like pledging a fraternity, except the hazers had no interest in even pretending to be friends. I won’t go into the gory details, but a few years ago John Rolfe and Peter Troob wrote Monkey Business, a graphic account of life as a junior investment banker at DLJ. Their description is consistent with my memory, including the true-to-life, hysterical description about managing the copying-center personnel. The main difference between their experience and mine: I was one level on the totem pole junior to them, which made life that much worse.
Part of my problem was that I did not have any idea what the job entailed when I started working there. When DLJ recruited its analysts, it sought a mix between finance/economics types and liberal arts types. As a government major, I fell into the latter group. I did not have any friends who had taken junior investment banking jobs, so I did not understand what the company’s representatives meant when they asked me during the recruiting process, “Are you willing to work hard?” I gave the right answer, but I didn’t realize I had just committed to 100-hour-plus work weeks. When I grew up, Dad made it home for dinner every night, and, I believe, so did all of my friends’ dads. I had never heard about jobs that required sitting in the office all day waiting for assignments that were gen- erally passed out around dinner. The work lasted into the wee hours and often overnight. I did not understand the concept of staying in the office until everyone senior to me left—even when I had nothing to do. Further, I did not understand that being an analyst was a rite of passage that required “sacrifice” for its own sake, even when it provided no benefit to the project at hand. But I did it anyway because that was the culture.

I would often sleep on a pillow under my desk while the word-processing department prepared documents or the copy center made them into presenta- tion books. Cheryl, my wife, would bring me a clean shirt in the morning on her way to work. I had certainly never before heard the adage, “If you aren’t coming in on Saturday, don’t even think about coming in on Sunday!” I started in August 1991 and by Thanksgiving had lost fifteen pounds.
After two years, analysts were expected to need a break that would be provided by business school. I had no intention of continuing my life as an investment banker, so I decided not to go to school. When a headhunter called and asked if I would like to interview at a hedge fund, my first response was, “Yes.” Then I asked, “What’s a hedge fund?” That is how Siegler, Collery & Company (SC) found me.
Cool story, but times are different now. Einhorn didn't have Wall Street Oasis and those kind of questions wouldn't fly today unless your dad is a well-connected WASP or a Jew.
Downloaded the pdf yesterday. Great read so far. It really sheds a light on how dumb some people can be when the right answers are right in front of them.
The answer is always right in front of us - we're just too stupid to see it.
Was this re-printed with permission from the author?
He didn't know what a hedge fund was even after 2 years of banking?
Wow, he's the first ultra-successful HF guy I've read about who didn't have a lifelong "passion for investing".
Read more.
Yes, because in 1992, passion for investing = knowing what a hedge fund is.
Is it normal in IB to have nothing to do all day and then work starts in the evening? Why does this happen?
I'm not a banker, but I don't think he literally means doing nothing all day. I think he means the main assignments that take up a big chunk of time starts in the evening because they require it to be handed down to them from higher ups, and higher ups are busy. So for example, a banker might work on a pitch book the night before, and give it to his VP in the morning. Then, the VP takes the entire day to make edits, and gives it to the analyst at 5pm and asks him to fix it by the next morning.
Again, not a banker, but this is how I imagine it works
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