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I guarantee you there are plenty of Asians at MS
This is a completely fucking ridiculous claim. Spend 5 minutes searching through BB IB analysts on Linkedin and you'll see that Asians are the MAJORITY in IB. At least, this is the case in Australia - I'm extrapolating for the USA.
Plenty of asians at every bank. I would throw this out almost automatically but at the Ivy I went to, there were rumors that MS had like a soft quota on the number of asians they wanted from my school.
Still, this seems a bit overblown but I'm a bit weirded out that this has come up again.
Yes, I know. We were shocked when we found out almost no Asian got into MS closed list, while plenty of Asian got into every other bank's invite only event.
Strange...
Diversity programs don't apply to Asians. For schools and firms, diversity only applies if you're black, hispanic, native american, homosexual, transsexual.
MS and especially Lazard have soft quotas on Asians. Everyone at my M7 program talked about this as well.
Your poor grammatical skills got you dinged, not your heritage
Yes, my grammatical skill is not good since English is not my native language. I did triple check every thank you letter and got native speaker to check them too. I just don't think it is necessary to do it here, unless most WSOers consider my writing difficult to understand.
Also, I'm not complaining but just finding it ridiculous. I and my Asian friends got invited to almost every elite boutique and several other BBs including GS. Only MS invited almost no one in the group.
Oh, you underestimate Asians born in Asia.
I was born in Asia and came here as student a while ago. I know how difficult for new foreign students to get used to the networking scene here, so I have very high respect to my "FOB" classmates who are looking for banking jobs in their first 3 months in US. But they do have a hard time competing with native English speakers and I would not blame banks for not hiring them.
What division(s) was this invite only program for?
IBD
Stop whining and step your game up. Dont make up claims to make yourself feel better. Go out there and network your ass off.
lol, I don't give a damn if one good bank doesn't invite me when I have invites from many other banks. And you have no idea what you are talking about: associate level banking recruiting is not always "network your ass off". MS is a low touch bank for my school, which means they only do one informational interview and two public events. You are not supposed to cold call them every day for networking (some other banks like that though).
Anyway, I just want to provide one data point here and hope someone from other M7 schools either confirm or reject this. This has nothing to do with analyst program recruiting.
You obviously do, as exemplified by this here thread.
Your grammar may be alright on paper, but you come off as meek, weak, insecure and whiny. That shit may fly during the anal years, but the typical ass is an authoritative, present, commanding and a wee bit too confident (let's be honest) reformed "frat daddy" who can talk out of his ass even though said ass hasn't the slightest idea what's going on. There are plenty of Asian guys who are chatty and fratty, so aim to be one of those guys if you really want to embark on the path of becoming a glorified, shellac-ed salesman.
I can't really say anything about MS as I don't know it that well. From an associates perspective though your communication has to be on point and perfect. You'll be leading calls and doing first round reviews on CIM's. If your vp has to cleanup wording all the time, you're not of much value. Also, the firm has to be cognizant of clients who may not appreciate having to understand the accent or are maybe just plain racist. I know it's not fair, but it's reality. Good luck to you in your other interviews.
Lol at people who aren't subject to discrimination telling people who are to "stop whining."
Lol at other people who think they know someone but they dont. Especially since Im black and im discriminated against everywhere lol.
Oh poor little asian, my 4.0 isn't good enough. stop whining
And thats where you are wrong little asian. You can land an interviewby networking. I landed an interview with MS by emailing a recruiter from an event that I was interrsted and I wanted to speak more about opportunities.
Get yourself out there. Make them want you. Stop acting like a bitchbaby
I'd agree that everyone deals with discrimination at some point. I may be white/Asian, but I'm from the south. You wouldn't believe how many times people from NYC/Chicago/etc. ask me "Why don't you have an accent?" "How are you not a completely ignorant moron?" "Why don't you listen to country?" Oh I'm sorry, let me go run barefoot through the dirt in my overalls and scream yeehaw from the top of my lungs, is that better? Honestly though, learning to let it roll off your back as someone who is incapable of seeing outside their own preconceived notions of the world is the only way to live. Constantly being offended or complaining about how something wasn't fair will get you no where.
I'm not sure what Morgan Stanley would have against the Israelis, Turks, and the Georgians but we should get to the bottom of this!
In today's Liberal America, Asians can NOT become the victims of Racism. Haven't you heard.
Asians are NOT the minorities.
Scvmbag Liberals!
This is probably the saltiest thread on the IB Forum I've seen in a while
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