deloitte > roland berger. roland berger is predominantly european, regardless...deloitte is much better strategy house and growing. i know many deloitte consultants in top 5 mba programs
deloitte > roland berger. roland berger is predominantly european, regardless...deloitte is much better strategy house and growing. i know many deloitte consultants in top 5 mba programs
Not true urinetrouble. As you said RB hardly has any business in the US, therefore its name isn't well known over there and its ranking is not that high.
In Europe it is one of the top firms however and in Germany even competing in the top 3. It was ranked third in Vault's 2011 Best to Work for in Europe list.
In my region Deloitte is seen as one of the big4 accounting firms with a consulting section as well. RB is one of the strategy houses. No one would even consider comparing the quality of Deloitte with RB.
The merger could be good for RB because they can finally grow internationally, for Deloitte it's a good thing because they take over a quality strategy house and can use that name in combination with its fees.
I completely disagree with urinetrouble. Roland Berger is miles ahead of Deloitte in Strategy, they were just never big/popular in the US. You can't really compare the quality of the people and work at Berger to any Big 4 firm's strategy practice.
Deloitte may occasionally churn out people to Top 5 MBA programs but I guarantee you that most would never go back to work at Deloitte if they had a choice. On the contrary, I've seen many people join Berger post-MBA. In fact, most people at RB are very "German" (not surprisingly) as they're loaded with top MsC/MBA/PhD's.
This is actually a perfect deal for Deloitte, who are the weakest of the Big 4 in many terrorities outside of the US...
In general, I agree with Riffs. This would've been a steal for Deloitte - overnight they would become one of the biggest players in GSA. However, I think it would've done little to improve their poor consulting brand in the rest of Europe where RB aren't a big deal.
Note that it was RB that shot down Deloitte and not the other way around. Apparently the merger was part of Deloitte's master plan to supplant McKinsey as the premier strategy house, though I'm not sure where they get the idea that that's even possible.
Exactly. PwC thought they were doing the same with the Diamond acquisition.
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Deloitte is still pushing for this deal apparently, but almost 100% of RB partners voted against it so I don't see it happening.
Even if the deal goes through eventually, I see a lot of key RB people moving to other consulting firms (MBB, Booz, OW), rendering the whole acquisition meaningless in the long-run.
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deloitte > roland berger. roland berger is predominantly european, regardless...deloitte is much better strategy house and growing. i know many deloitte consultants in top 5 mba programs
deloitte > roland berger. roland berger is predominantly european, regardless...deloitte is much better strategy house and growing. i know many deloitte consultants in top 5 mba programs
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Not true urinetrouble. As you said RB hardly has any business in the US, therefore its name isn't well known over there and its ranking is not that high.
In Europe it is one of the top firms however and in Germany even competing in the top 3. It was ranked third in Vault's 2011 Best to Work for in Europe list.
In my region Deloitte is seen as one of the big4 accounting firms with a consulting section as well. RB is one of the strategy houses. No one would even consider comparing the quality of Deloitte with RB.
The merger could be good for RB because they can finally grow internationally, for Deloitte it's a good thing because they take over a quality strategy house and can use that name in combination with its fees.
German FT for backgrounds: http://www.ftd.de/unternehmen/finanzdienstleister/:angestrebte-megafusi…
To be clear, referring specifically to the proposed merger, rather than perceived prestige (which is very regional).
RB . strategy work. deloitte blows.
RB . strategy work. deloitte blows.
dang, first pwc acquiring diamond and now deloitte possible acquiring roland? i wonder if ey will follow the same trend.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-11-17/deloitte-roland-berger-disc…
I completely disagree with urinetrouble. Roland Berger is miles ahead of Deloitte in Strategy, they were just never big/popular in the US. You can't really compare the quality of the people and work at Berger to any Big 4 firm's strategy practice.
Deloitte may occasionally churn out people to Top 5 MBA programs but I guarantee you that most would never go back to work at Deloitte if they had a choice. On the contrary, I've seen many people join Berger post-MBA. In fact, most people at RB are very "German" (not surprisingly) as they're loaded with top MsC/MBA/PhD's.
This is actually a perfect deal for Deloitte, who are the weakest of the Big 4 in many terrorities outside of the US...
No Deloitte and Roland Berger merger/acquisiton, I guess..:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/82cad99a-f59e-11df-99d6-00144feab49a.html?ftc…
Deloitte can't take a hint... http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2e44af2a-f8bb-11df-b550-00144feab49a.html#axz…
In general, I agree with Riffs. This would've been a steal for Deloitte - overnight they would become one of the biggest players in GSA. However, I think it would've done little to improve their poor consulting brand in the rest of Europe where RB aren't a big deal.
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Exactly. PwC thought they were doing the same with the Diamond acquisition.
Deloitte is still pushing for this deal apparently, but almost 100% of RB partners voted against it so I don't see it happening.
Even if the deal goes through eventually, I see a lot of key RB people moving to other consulting firms (MBB, Booz, OW), rendering the whole acquisition meaningless in the long-run.
Deloitte and Roland Berger...again! (Originally Posted: 03/26/2013)
Deloitte is in advanced talks to buy Roland Berger..again.
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/130326/roland-berger-Deloit…
Seems like Berger just can't penetrate foreign markets.
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"In 2010, the two groups had been in talks to merge and become the world's number two after McKinsey."
Well there's a nuanced understanding of the situation...
Not sure if this is another case of word misuse because I find to hard to believe that Deloitte is proposing a merger instead of acquisition.
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