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Would take Guggeheim over any of the offers you have. If I had to do it all over, I'd give up my BB gig for Guggeheim in an instant.

JEF HC is a top notch team, but it is far from GS/JPM/CS HC. Rest of JEF is average.

When I interviewed at JEF, I hated their culture. Seemed very robotic in nature and never reached out to me to see if I had any questions etc when I received my offer.

Some groups in BAML are very strong (LevFin/Sponsors) but outside of that, not so much. Very unstable and has been since ML acquisition. I would avoid at all cost.

 
Whiskey5:
Would take Guggeheim over any of the offers you have. If I had to do it all over, I'd give up my BB gig for Guggeheim in an instant.

JEF HC is a top notch team, but it is far from GS/JPM/CS HC. Rest of JEF is average.

When I interviewed at JEF, I hated their culture. Seemed very robotic in nature and never reached out to me to see if I had any questions etc when I received my offer.

Some groups in BAML are very strong (LevFin/Sponsors) but outside of that, not so much. Very unstable and has been since ML acquisition. I would avoid at all cost.

and this. okay done lol.

 

I'm really looking for what will be the best for me in the long term. Since DB is bigger will I get to see a more diverse array of deals? I guess I'm just trying to gauge why everyone has said no comparison, go DB?

 
MrJJAAYY:
I'm really looking for what will be the best for me in the long term. Since DB is bigger will I get to see a more diverse array of deals? I guess I'm just trying to gauge why everyone has said no comparison, go DB?

Don't think of it as prestige. There is a lot of competition for good exit opps and your group/firm name can be used for screening/signaling (to use an econ term).

 

because Broadview blows and treats their employees 2nd class to Jefferies bankers. DB Tech is definitely better in that regard. However, if you had Jefferies in NYC, I'd recommend it. They have some bright people and work on lot of MM deals. They're not BB (neither is DB really), but they are respected in MM space.

 

My impression of a majority of the people on this site:

"Jefferies is a fucking toilet, don't go there unless you want to be a joke. Gawd, if you don't work at GS or MS M&A or another top group like UBS LA you don't deserve to live."-Undergrad Student X who hasn't had a job or interview yet.

At the end of the day, neither of these are that DRASTICALLY different. All the people I've met at both firms seemed pretty cool and I dunno about DB to a great extent, but Jefferies seems to have pretty hefty deal flow. But, don't feel like this is a life or death decision. The only people who would judge your decision are assholes on an anonymous message board and a couple of insecure dudes in reality.

 
TheKing:
My impression of a majority of the people on this site:

"Jefferies is a fucking toilet, don't go there unless you want to be a joke. Gawd, if you don't work at GS or MS M&A or another top group like UBS LA you don't deserve to live."-Undergrad Student X who hasn't had a job or interview yet.

At the end of the day, neither of these are that DRASTICALLY different. All the people I've met at both firms seemed pretty cool and I dunno about DB to a great extent, but Jefferies seems to have pretty hefty deal flow. But, don't feel like this is a life or death decision. The only people who would judge your decision are assholes on an anonymous message board and a couple of insecure dudes in reality.

HAHAHAHA. Hilarious. Can these type of threads please end? You really shouldn't be making life decisions based on the opinions of this board.

 
At the end of the day, neither of these are that DRASTICALLY different. All the people I've met at both firms seemed pretty cool and I dunno about DB to a great extent, but Jefferies seems to have pretty hefty deal flow. But, don't feel like this is a life or death decision. The only people who would judge your decision are assholes on an anonymous message board and a couple of insecure dudes in reality.

Well said.

I interviewed with the guys from Jefferies, and they were some of the most laid back and fun bankers I've met. Much cooler than the GS/MS guys that came to campus. I had a buddy of mine intern there and he was traveling to clients all the time. Both places I'm sure will give you a great summer experience.

 

I agree with TexasIB, Jefferies has a really fun culture and all of the guys I met when I interviewed there were badass. I would have loved to work there and was about ready to sign, but I realized the cachet of working on Fortune 100 deals was too important to pass up to go advise some bumblefuck CEO in Kansas on what to do with his $20M revenue business.

Jefferies gets a bad rap around here, and I think it would be a valuable experience, but definitely not on par with other places for post-analyst placement.

 

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