Did Trump just screw up his campaign?

There's a lot of things I do not admire about Trump,

However, I always admired how he can take what's happening in the world (mostly Terror attacks) and use it to his advantage to target the audience,

But wait, did he invite Russia to launch a cyber-attack on a former US Secretary of State's e-mail?

That is one of the dumbest moves a running candidate could make!

Do you agree with me? Do you think he's over?

 

Gotta love how the DNC has cyber security experts come in, tell them they have shit security, give a number of recommendations, take none of them and try hacked, showing damming behavior on their part and ppl are talking about Trump.

He didn't invite anyone to hack anything. Hillarys grab ass behavior allowed hackers to have access to state secrets and she's trying to deflect to save face.

 

What he asked for was the emails that the Russian government already has. He just want's them to leak what they have. Much different than calling for someone to actively hack her now. There wouldn't be much reason to hack her now considering she has deleted a huge number of emails.

Follow the shit your fellow monkeys say @shitWSOsays Life is hard, it's even harder when you're stupid - John Wayne
 

@TNA" heister the justification is hilarious, this apologist bullshit is getting out of hand. Trump asked the Russian's to find the deleted emails, he didn't say release, that implies them acquiring the information, which implies a request to Russia to hack the democratic party. If he didn't make this unnecessary comment there would be no avenue for the DNC or Hillary to "deflect" to, but he couldn't help himself, which is just a summary of the candidate. Anyone catch his comments regarding Khizr Khan's impassioned DNC speech? Just deplorable in every way. Implying that Khizr didn't let his wife speak b/c he is a Muslim then stating he has made sacrifices b/c he "built structures". Who compares that to someone who died for their country? Donald Trump does. His policies are garbage and I now honestly believe he is a genuinely terrible person, I used to think it was for show.

p.s. I don't believe he "screwed up" his campaign, he was always going to lose barring a major scandal from the e-mails, a major economic downturn, or something of that sort.

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Uh, you seem to be conflating two different things. Trump was calling for the Russians to "find" the 30K deleted emails that Hillary deleted from her personal server from the time she was Sec of State. Since those emails no longer exist, he was defacto telling them to release the emails if they have them.

Follow the shit your fellow monkeys say @shitWSOsays Life is hard, it's even harder when you're stupid - John Wayne
 

Let's not get bogged down in the semantics. The point is the comment was wholly unnecessary but he made them anyway. It is indicative of his overall "any publicity is good publicity" mantra, which is a great stance for a reality TV celebrity and an awful one for someone who could be POTUS.

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Trump has a gaffe almost every day. His supporters don't care and everyone else seems almost numb to it. Even since you posted this thread the whole him attacking a dead soldier's parents thing has happened. It's embarrassing, but that's Trump for you.

It's a bit surreal, in hindsight, to remember how Mitt Romney was torn apart for saying he had "binders full of" eligible women he wanted to hire (which was somehow anti-feminist?) and that 47% of people are dependent on the government (which is up for the debate but hardly a surprising sentiment).

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Trump has a gaffe almost every day. His supporters don't care and everyone else seems almost numb to it. Even since you posted this thread the whole him attacking a dead soldier's parents thing has happened. It's embarrassing, but that's Trump for you.

It's a bit surreal, in hindsight, to remember how Mitt Romney was torn apart for saying he had "binders full of" eligible women he wanted to hire (which was somehow anti-feminist?) and that 47% of people are dependent on the government (which is up for the debate but hardly a surprising sentiment).

Listen, I get it, you are a "traditional Republican conservative", but could you be any more biased?

Hillary used a bullshit home server and put national security at risk.

The DNC was told by security experts that their security was garbage and did nothing.

Hillary deleted 30,000 "personal emails" which we all know is bullshit.

All this is done, but the news story is "Trump colludes with Russia to hack our national security"

1) If the emails were personal there wouldn't be any security at risk, but we know this is bullshit.

2) The original hack was from a Romanian hacker, not Russian.

3) We have ZERO proof this is a Russian hacker.

4) If Russia did hack Hillary, it was her own fucking fault.

The DNC is using Russia as a deflection and trying to smear Trump by tying Trump and Russia. Last time I checked the cold war was over, the US and NATO were the ones moving anti-balistic missiles ever so close to Russia and the fact we are getting hacked is not because Trump is asking for a favor, but because Hillary wanted to avoid the FOIA and have an ILLEGAL, UNAUTHORIZED server.

Any 22 year old working at a bank knows they can be fired for sending work emails home, but Hillary, a lawyer and experienced professional decided to do something that no other Sect of State had every done, something not authorized by the FBI/CIA/NSA and then "accidentally" delete emails.

The story should only be about her wanton disregard for the law, her putting national security at risk and how the DNC actively worked to fuck over a candidate and lie to Democrat voters.

 

Not sure why you're slinging monkey shit or going on anti-Hillary rants, @TNA"

First of all, I'm probably too socially liberal to be considered a traditional Republican, unless we're talking traditional as in when I was a child and even then it's a stretch. Not being a fan of Trump's "alt-right" doesn't immediately make me Ted Cruz. On top of that, did you just call me a traditional Republican conservative and claim that I'm biased FOR Hillary Clinton in the same post?

Second, speaking of Hillary, I don't disagree with you on anything you said. My extreme dislike for Trump doesn't make me a Hillary supporter and I think it's ridiculous how free of a pass she's gotten for her handling of the emails. Likewise, Hillary screwing up the email situation has nothing to do with Trump being a classless fuck when it comes to the parents of veterans (or literally anything else he's involved in.)

When you have two candidates doing stupid things, it's not out of the question to call both of them stupid. Just because I'm vocal about my dislike of Trump does not automatically make me a shill for the other side.

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Lol the media is not trying to smear Trump, he is tied to Russia, although that does not mean he is a Putin puppet, there is no evidence of that. His campaign mgr worked as an advisor for a deposed Urkanian president that was a Putin puppet. He has made numerous statements lauding Putin and has business interests in Russia. One of his policy advisors has ties to Gazprom. This isn't made up. We can discuss Hillary's e-mail issue and Trump's comments independently. Her actions put confidential info in danger, no doubt, but Trump had no business asking Russia to release emails that were obtained from hacking. This may not be the cold war but Russia is a hostile country, you attempting to distract from that is "deflection" at its best. As for whether it was a Russian hacker, all evidence points to that, the Romanian guy you reference has been proven to be a fake, the guy couldn't even speak Romanian, he was most likely a Russian decoy, I can give you links that prove this to be true if you want. There is no evidence that the DNC did anything to assist Hillary, just evidence that they discussed it, in any case HRC was going to win that race, you don't win democratic primaries when you lose the black/Hispanic vote as badly as Bernie did. You accuse CRE of bias but yours is obvious, Hillary's e-mail scandal has been covered extensively and just b/c she fucked up does not mean Trump gets to ask hostile foreign countries to do illegal shit/ release stuff received by doing illegal shit to expose her, stop trying to change that reality.

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Any classified material is on a completely isolated medium, currently known as SIPR net. Her private server would never touch that medium, nor would any classified materials be able to be uploaded to her personal set up. If her emails contained classified information, which as we've learned were mostly retroactively classified that is considered "spillage," this can range from a something concrete like operational details to the very very obscure to some more common references that are classified. This may come up or be mentioned between colleagues. Additionally, it was retroactively classified and given the details that information was mentioned in one email in a string, and in many different email strings, it was likely more benign in nature hence the ease of fuck-up.

 
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For a group that considers themselves 'intelligent,' 'educated,' 'cultured,' etc - I am shocked by the pro-Trump support on here.

A backbone of finance is using quantitative reasoning (i.e. statistics) as the supporting argument to one's claim. In English that means, if you say something, you have EVIDENCE to back it up. For example, I think that Apple is a good investment because reasons X, Y, and Z. Any child who had a 7th grade science fair knows this to be true.

"Make America Great Again" How?

"I'll make the Mexicans pay for it" How?

"I have much success" (sounds better in a Borat voice)

"I'll hire the best people" Who?

"I'd bang Ivanka if she wasn't my daughter" ....close enough

This is simply scratching the surface, without even mentioning waterboarding, torture, immigrant reform, trade reform, praising Putin, etc.

...Without frustrating myself at my desk by continuing to reflect on the past 10 months of sheer STUPIDITY that has been thrown around by Trump - consider his quotes, his arguments. They're claims, they're simply statements made without any quantitative support.

 

EXACTLY. This is why I don't understand Trump supporters. Overheard a conversation at work the other day (about all of the recent shootings) "That's why I can't wait for Donald to become president, because he's going to restore law & order. I don't know how he's going to do it, but I know he will." At this point I was biting my tongue so hard it was bleeding. I wanted to scream "Why? Why do you believe he will? You just said that he has given no plan to this bold claim, but for some reason you believe him? What about him makes you believe him? His background as a real estate developer and tv personality makes you believe this claim? Is it because he's running for president and will say literally whatever pops in his head at that exact moment? If I was running for president and made lewd, crude, and outlandish remarks and extremely vague promises would you believe me?"

 

@TNA" the point is we do not support Assad and they do, that is enough to refuse to work with them. Additionally, the evidence points towards Russia, of course we do not know for sure whether they committed the hack but to act like the DNC implicated Russia just to smear Trump is false, simple as that. They implicated Russia because all evidence points in that direction. Many are saying Guccifer IS NOT EVEN ROMANIAN, as evidenced by an interview he gave in which he didn't speak the language and the few Romanian words he did use were a... struggle (not like I am an expert I am just repeating what has been written on the subject). I generally like your contributions to this site so let's agree to disagree.

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Yeah, I will agree to disagree and move on in this thread. My issue has been and always will be with the news and utter misinformation circulated. Either way I think we will see more of Hillary's emails and I hope that if something condemning comes out that people will demand consequences regardless of political affiliation.

Personally, I wish Biden had run. I am not a fan of many of his stances, but I would have voted for him. Why the DNC keeps pushing Hillary is beyond me. Her negatives are only rivaled by Trump which is pretty sad. Oh well.

 

Considering Trump's own party (the anti-liberals) did not openly support his candidacy, many members still do not support his candidacy, and have spoken directly against Trump's comments in regards to a variety of topics - perhaps it is not only tree-hugging, farm to table loving hippies that are anti-Trump.

The statement above is not an opinion, those are facts, covered by both Liberal and Right-Winged news. The following are not facts, but instead, are claims.

"When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending the best. They’re not sending you, they’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bring crime. They’re rapists… And some, I assume, are good people.”

“One of they key problems today is that politics is such a disgrace. Good people don’t go into government.”

“It’s freezing and snowing in New York – we need global warming!”

“I have never seen a thin person drinking Diet Coke.”

"My IQ is one of the highest — and you all know it! Please don't feel so stupid or insecure; it's not your fault."

Just because somebody is anti-Trump does not make anti-Republic or a Democrat. Just as if somebody is anti-Hilary, that does not make them a Republic.

I consider this a "think tank" of not having one's head up their ass.

 

People love to give me shit for liking Trump, but I realize something that they don't. The guy makes me laugh, who gives a shit what his other ideas are. The president doesn't have that much real power, I'd rather have a guy who makes me laugh than some old lady who looks like she has a seizure every time a camera flash goes off.

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lol the President doesn't have any power yet Obama passed Obamacare, passed TPP, pushed through the Iranian nuclear deal, authorized an incursion into "ally" (lol) territory to kill Osama, fostered the Arab Spring ,defunded NASA, sanctioned Russia into economic depression, and with a few statements on tax inversions killed a lot of m&a deals - all while working under a hostile congress. While the president may not be able to do much to affect the economy, he/she has extensive power when it comes to foreign policy.

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That makes sense...

Usually I vote for the candidate that I think could beat me in a game of Madden. Nothing validates knowing how to run a country like a good play-action call on 3rd and 7.

As your title states 'Almost Human,' it is evident that your mental capacity fits the description as well. (Awaiting some response point out that my title is Baboon).

 

Hear me out for just a second. I think we seriously underestimate the psychological warfare going on here. With the success of the DNC pulling Hillary ahead with an average of 7 points on Trump, this is a serious blow to the republicans. Knowing this, Trump is hitting back with drowning the media on stories about him non stop. Somehow saying one crazy thing on top of another,- consecutively, is making each attack on him lose stickiness and the media cannot focus on one story at a time. (Whereas Hillary with emails, Clinton foundation, Benghazi are drawn out for weeks).

There's a couple benefits to this. This whole week is focused on trump in media via good/bad publicity instead of the success of the DNC filling in the block. Second, each attack on one thing trump says is overturned by another crazy thing he says the next day. On Monday Hillary was pulling ahead with 7 points average coming out the DNC. This Tuesday she is down to 5 points average ahead of Trump. Will the trend continue?

Somehow as long as the media covers Trump exclusively, whether it be good or bad publicity, its been converting to polling numbers. We saw this in the Republican primaries where everyone was taking turns attacking Trump on things he had said but they never stick. The man may not have IQ but he sure does have EQ.

 

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