Effects of alcohol
I know there are a lot of heavy drinkers on this forum. I've roughly doubled my nightly alcohol consumption over the last few months and I'm starting to think my brain is turning into soup. I find myself reading short articles and having to read them again because I didn't pick up the message. I find myself forgetting a lot of things I used to know and struggle to think effectively. Anyone have a similar experience? Would you quit alcohol?
You're probably meant to be a lightweight. Stick to the Smirnoff Ice and Andre.
pls, thx
sounds good... lets discuss tomm at 10am
Big Swinging Dick big.swinging.dicks@GS.com Managing Director Goldman Sachs 200 West Street, New York, NY.
You could always just stop drinking for a while. I suppose that is the easy way out?
FWIW a colleague found out they have severe sleep apnea this way.
Solution is to drink MORE... hair of the dog
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Sounds like youre neglecting to maintain sufficient caffeine levels in your alcohol stream. You cant have all alcohol running through those veins unless you want to sell cars, you must maintain equal parts caffeine, its all about moderation.
Or you're getting old
So you are recommending drinking vodka red bull for breakfast?
Well you're not gonna soak your oats in milk are you
lol
Your problem is likely lack of exercise, hydration, electrolytes, and lack of foods for liver health.
Make sure you're working out often. If you don't feel like running do some weights. When you go out, drink water during the night and chug a bunch before you pass out. Keep water by your bed if needed. If you're really hurting, get Pedialyte.
You're going to want to do regular liver cleanses as well. Generally, try to drink as much as water as possible. Also, during some workouts, it helps to wear sweats and really crank the toxins out of your body, refreshing the liver. If your liver is overburdened, when you drink alcohol, it won't be able to flush out / process the toxins as fast/efficient.
Eat foods that support a healthy liver. Leafy greens, tumeric, high antioxidant fruits like blueberries, green tea, coconut oil.
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You don't have to do everything listed above, but if you do nothing and get super hammered every night, you're eventually going to crash and be fatigued.
all of the above sounds great and everyone should be exercising more/drinking more water, but you could also just drink less poison for your liver...
boooooooo
gtfo, pledge
Long story short - Yes, I've had similar experiences. It was extremely concerning to me so I quit entirely. Within a few weeks, any symptoms I had felt had completely dissipated. I felt fresher, quicker, and generally happier. I also saved money, got into shape, and was able to take on experiences that I couldn't do while drinking. Also, when I was single, when it came to dating, I was 10x more likely to close because not drinking was such a novelty to girls I met.
I know this forum is all about being a Bank-Star, but I would tread cautiously with this lifestyle if these are these are the effects of alcohol that you're feeling. At minimum, take some time off so you have a baseline level to compare to before getting back into the game.
I am on the other side of the spectrum of the stereotypical banker that high schoolers on this website envision, so definitely not doing the "bank-star" approach - just really enjoy the drinks because they take the edge off and taste amazing.
Were you noticing similar things (e.g., forgetting shit easily)? I think I am more concerned for the career than anything.
Not saying that you are a bank-star. Just saying that, for better or worse, that lifestyle is glorified on here.
To answer your question - Yes, I was unable to form cogent thoughts in conversation (after sobering up) and unable to complete tasks at work that should have been easy to do. This was during a period when I was polishing off enough alcohol to blackout every night and roll into work hungover in the morning.
Don’t mistake this as advocacy for temperance, as personally, I’m much more inclined towards HST’s mantra "I hate to advocate drugs or alcohol to anyone, but they've always worked for me."
But I think it bears mentioning that alcohol is a relatively harsh substance, particularly when measuring it’s toxicity to the body on an effective to lethal dose ratio:
It’s legal and celebrated, but’s its acutely more toxic than many other drugs, at least when measured by the standard above. Can't say knowing any of this has change my habits, but I think its still worth knowing. Especially if you want to rationalize your use of anything towards the top.
HST = Hubble Space Telescope...?
Hunter S. Thompson.
Also once you try some of those other drugs it's hard to see the appeal of alcohol besides the social aspect of it (or the acquired taste if you've drank enough). Many of the other drugs are cheaper, more fun, and arguably less harmful to your body
OP, I would see your doc and see if he/she can write you a prescription for industrial strength vagisil.
"Price check on VagiClean, aisle five. I repeat: price check on VagiClean, aisle five. That’s VagiClean. We’ve got a customer down here with a full-on Fallopian fungus. She’s baking a loaf of bread and I think it’s sourdough."
Someone had to be "that guy". Might as well be me ;).
No.
An issue with drinking to that extent would be drastically increasing your chance to get certain forms of cancer. Alcohol is awful for your body, best advice is to keep it to 1-2 nights per week.
For me I usually do 1 night of party level drinking followed by one night of casual wine/champagne at dinner level and zero consumption for the rest of the week.
I agree 100%
Robberbaron are you trying to get off the alcohol as much as possible?
Dunno what "doubled the amount would mean" but definitely too much alcohol is not a good thing. I know it can be hard to completely cut alcohol specially in social occasion or even if "job requires it" ( I used to manage a restaurant and have few drinks with regular customers). Try to stop for at least a month and increase water intake.
Its all fun and game until the party stops. I was an Army weekend warrior with the bro's since I was 18 and on my 25th birthday, I found out I had developed acute gastritis. Thats what happens when you party your stomach lining away and the digestive enzymes start to inflame the organ. Needless to say, the party has stopped for me and I've had to completely leave that lifestyle behind in order to heal. It has been a rough transition learning to go out late completely sober while everyone is smashed, but there are plenty of benefits.. like becoming a monster athlete and actually feeling rested on occasion.
There is absolutely no shame in being a non-drinker.
Anyone who tells you otherwise is insecure themselves.
I've always wondered why people want to voluntarily lose control.
That being said, I'll have the occasional glass of white wine. Extra dry. But never beer or hard liquor.
You don't live in the south I take it
At my old company all of senior management basically power drank. People moved up the ranks tremendously being the old COO's drinking buddy.
You're the odd duck if you don't drink. It isn't necessarily a disqualifying trait, but that is just one more thing that is viewed as "different". People like people that are more similar than dissimilar to themselves generally and are more trusting out of the gate.
A quick rule of thumb to diagnose yourself: do you consume 14 or less alcoholic drinks per week? If you are within those confines, you are a "moderate" drinker, and are in the boundary of "reasonable" drinking. If you are past that, yes, you should look into your habits. My mother is a doctor and had it carved in my brain for banking lol...
On that note, no, do not give up alcohol. A slow glass of wine each day (red for men, white for women optimally) would be a healthy habit to incorporate into your daily routine. It relaxes you physically and psychologically, and nutrition-wise is an aide to the absorption of key minerals and is an appetite stimulant. Personally, I usually cap at 2 hard liquor drinks per week, and a glass of wine per day.
Your "alcoholism", as it were, is a minor contributing factor to your lapses in concentration. The "forgetting a lot of things" and "struggling to think effectively" sounds like a classic symptom of exhaustion. Most likely a result of physical tiredness (sleep deprivation, lack of healthy sleep regimen) and prolonged emotional stress. You're not alone, everybody feels it at one point or another.
In reality, few of us have the luxury/ability to turn around our lifestyles for the better. Until the opportunity comes, I recommend opting for a glass of wine whether at the bar or at home, and let it ooze you to sleep for a few hours.
Did my share of drinking in college, but it's not really fun anymore. I can only even think of 2 times in my life when I actually lost time or can't remember what happened due to drinking, I've never understood the appeal of drinking until you black out. I've been lucky that I've had quite a tolerance for most of this time, although it certainly fluctuates. Given that the amount of alcohol I'd have to consume to be truly "out of control" becomes disgusting (like eating 4 McDonald's cheeseburgers back to back) - I don't really have the desire to do this anyway. It's nice to loosen up sometimes, but if you need alcohol to become a "different person" and have a good time at all, that's when you should start to analyze why that may be the case.
Alcohol certainly has long-term damaging effects on various subsystems in your body, and past a certain point they just get worse and worse. A relatively "minor" one that I'm sure many of us know about is simply the weight gain. Pounding 7 or 8 craft beers a couple times a week (or more) is a quick way to pack on a solid gut. A lot harder to burn it off too, once you've got it. And, yes, it will slow you down mentally, hurt your digestive system, cause withdrawn symptoms if you drink heavily for long periods of time and then go without, cause dehydration, poor sleep, and generally will cause you to feel like shit. Of course that goes without saying for anyone who's had a drink before.
I've suffered from chronic migraines most of my life, and alcohol is a massive trigger for them, randomly but often enough that I try to keep my drinking to a minimum these days. I have no problem going out out and drinking all night, but that's not something I do often, and in between I don't really consume any at all. I definitely feel sharper for it. It's a bit annoying, as I love a well-made cocktail, or a well-made craft beer, or even a a few glasses of quality scotch, whiskey or bourbon as much as anyone...but it's a bit better when you're not having it every day. And I just can't take the risk.
I have a similar relationship with all substances I've tried over the years...proportional to their effect, legally, price, etc. Once in a great while is fine, know your limits, don't be a dumbass, enjoy yourself. But developing a habit with any substance, even caffeine, can be incredibly crippling, and with some life-ending in a few different ways. Everything in moderation, learn to live without so that you can enjoy it when you truly have the chance to. As you've noticed, getting used to having something in your system, even if it's not majorly impacting your life, can really drag down the quality of your day-to-day activities. And who the hell needs another thing to make getting through the workday harder.
I've been sober a few months. Shit's cool but also sucks. Edit: Also, drinking every night is for sure fucking terrible for you. Fuck the articles. Do you understand how quickly you're aging yourself? Go get your telemeres tested. You're probably biologically 5 years older.
This sounds horrible
That's sad if a few months of sobriety sounds horrible to you. You could benefit from a few months off the booze, some exercise, healthy diet, and a heavy mushroom trip.
OP, if you think alcohol is having a bad effect on your body, cut it out or cut it down. Ignore anyone who tells you that you're lame for doing that. At the end of the day, you have to live in your body.
Have you ever tried to go to the gym the day after drinking a lot? I used to do that at college and I could never make it through the workout.
If any of you are interested in the causes and some potential solutions for substance and behavioral addictions, which more of you probably have than you think (workaholism?), I recommend checking out this book. It helped me to understand why I am how I am and how to behave consequently. Gets a bit soft at times, but the guy's Canadian; cut him some slack. Also if you have family who are addicts, this will help you to understand them.
https://www.amazon.com/Realm-Hungry-Ghosts-Encounters-Addiction-ebook/d…
Drinking too much? (Originally Posted: 05/29/2014)
I am not a heavy drinker (1 or 2 socially, 3 to 5 when I'm going out), but I drink very frequently. I go on 1 or 2 dates a week, go out Thursday, Friday and Saturday, and that's 20 drinks right there. Doctors define heavy drinking asmore than 4 a day or 14 a week. How much do you drink and are you worried about any long term health problems?
I promise you I drink more than you and am in perfect health haha. If 14 drinks a week is heavy then I am a village of alcoholics.
Dude, you're fine. That Cortisol is worse for you than a couple of drinks.
I'm not worried about the short term, but what about long term problems like high blood pressure, liver disease, and insidious side effects like impotence haha
I'm not talking about an occasional week of 20 drinks that is nothing. I'm talking about the grind on your body of 20 drinks a week for years, combined with the sedentary banking lifestyle, and you are taking a slow toll on your balls and body
You'll probably get pretty fat.
Ireland's still around; I think you'll be fine.
Title should read:
"Drinking not enough?"
You should be hoping that alcohol nukes your nuts. If it doesn't, what you produce will eliminate all drinking from your life. Fun, sex, and happiness as well.
Raising a kid is the prime of adult life.
LOL When are you going to coauthor a book on marriage/family with Eddie?
doctors use archaic measures like this so that you pay more for insurance; by their measures, Adrian Peterson is overweight (BMI is a bitch). get your vitals checked (resting heart rate, BP, cholesterol, etc.) and you'll find that you're ok.
how do you feel? do you feel you drink too much? like your drinking is interfering with important things like sleep, friendships, family, work? if not, then keep pounding. if so, make some changes.
I'm worried I'll drink to the point where my dick doesn't work or my liver craps out haha
I've never heard of a case of permanent whiskey dick. That being said, whining about alcohol intake is a cause of growing a vagina haha.
The frequency at which you masturbate has a much higher effect on your dick's capabilities x years from now.
I drank and worked myself through my 20's and early 30's and still had two kids after that. If your dick doesn't work, it's not because of drinking.
@TNA, f'in hilarious.
If that amount of drinking were to be troublesome, nobody could graduate from college healthy or with the ability to procreate. Hell, I wouldn't have been able to graduate high school in a healthy state either.
Your pecker will be fine as long as you can eat healthy, work out semi-consistently and avoid smoking cigarettes. Get plenty of sleep and you're golden.
I counted 20 odd posts before this thread went full retard.
jk I
Do you want a cookie lol.
You missed something in your description though. It should say wonderful dad of 5 kids since having kids is the "prime" of life. You better step up before you become a biological failure.
I have an 18 month old son. 5 kids is too many IMO, but from a biological perspective, that would be very good.
Also, having kids is the second prime of life. The first is childhood.
Maybe he is talking about Optimus Prime haha.
Dude sounds like a fundie. 5 kids being biologically very good? I suggest a trip to India. And childhood being the first prime? No thanks.
For socially competent guys, the prime of life ends at elementary school or high school graduation. Ideally I would say elementary school graduation because elementary school had that new experience + new adventure factor going for it, like getting your first kiss, or riding bikes with your buddies during the summer, or playing soccer literally everyday during recess. But HS graduation is literally the end, period. No exceptions pals. College can be prime for a very small select few (losers who were bullied in elementary school). I hate to depress you guys but I'm just speaking facts. I'm not saying to sit at home and do nothing. I'm saying that we'll never have the happiness we did during those very early days. Accept that and move on.
18 is the absolute max for the prime of life. It's either 1) elementary school graduation or 2) HS graduation.
I am actually interested in why you keep thinking that. Like I said above, I am an atheist and I view religion as a construct to mentally enslave people.
Watch out guys, were are getting "facts" rained down on us. Pack your umbrella's.
I am going to go home and drink since my prime is way gone. Boo hoo (sad face).
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