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Drug Testing

Ok, so a really quick and random question. Are drug tests used when hiring summer analysts?

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Patrick Bateman's picture

yes

yes

steaksauce's picture

some banks do. although i

some banks do. although i never was drug tested as a summer analyst.

ade6u's picture

Can anyone else expand on

Can anyone else expand on their drug testing experiences?

WizardofOz's picture

Sure--

I pissed in a cup and gave it to the nurse on duty.

ade6u's picture

Can you specify the bank as

Can you specify the bank as well as SA / FT ? Supervised / unsupervised ? Announced / unannounced?

blah1111's picture

you should talk to your

you should talk to your employer about your concerns. ask about which drugs they specifically test for, i'm sure he'll be glad to address your worries.

dav3100's picture

haha this is ridiculous.

haha this is ridiculous. first off, it's a urine test, and i'm pretty sure all banks test their summers on the first day of your internship (mine did at least). we were told ahead of time, and I'm pretty sure that that is the standatd. most hard drugs (amphetamines and other stimulants) will be out of your system within 5 days. Marijuana may take slighter longer, and even longer if you're a heavy user. if you can't just stop using whatever you're using for 5 days to 2 weeks, you probably shouldn't be in banking since you have no self-control.

you declare any medications you're taking prior to the test that may show up, although if prescribed something like adderol, i'd probably just skip the dose for that week since it will eliminate having to have the bank get the prescription confirmed by your doctor.

Daniel T Bush's picture

do they test for steroids?

do they test for steroids?

patekphilippe's picture

h

anyone know how long heroin stays in your system?

cdn monkey's picture

yeah they'll give a good 2-3

yeah they'll give a good 2-3 months notice if they want to do drug testing and it was unsupervised.

emtjason's picture

Most urine tests can be

Most urine tests can be passed by drinking special flushing drinks or even from buying synthetic urine or real urine online to pass the test. Up to you but a friend of mine got busted trying it in drug rehab. Just search around online and you can find places offering with guarantees that their stuff will have you pass.

WallStreethokie's picture

My SA firm had me tested

My SA firm had me tested within three days of receiving my offer in the mail.

Hockeyfan's picture

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dosk17's picture

A drug test is just a stupidity test

Just make sure you haven't smoked or anything within a few weeks of the drug test and you'll be fine. :) I've heard of people being tested for SAs and people also not being tested... time varies a lot by firm, some will do it immediately, others will wait etc.

Plus honestly if you're a regular drug user you probably shouldn't be doing this job, all joking about bankers being cocaine addicts aside.

http://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/
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fordhammasta's picture

hmm

dosk17 wrote:

Plus honestly if you're a regular drug user you probably shouldn't be doing this job, all joking about bankers being cocaine addicts aside.

http://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/
Mergers & Inquisitions

C'mon Dosk, smoking weed is a required part of the curriculum at NYU...

Prince of Wall Street's picture

It is usually a urine test

It is usually a urine test and mine was done on the 1st day of the internship. Some of my friends had to have it done at a lab before they started.

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Prince of Wall Street's picture

I love this comment

dosk17 wrote:

Just make sure you haven't smoked or anything within a few weeks of the drug test and you'll be fine. :) I've heard of people being tested for SAs and people also not being tested... time varies a lot by firm, some will do it immediately, others will wait etc.

Plus honestly if you're a regular drug user you probably shouldn't be doing this job, all joking about bankers being cocaine addicts aside.

http://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/
Mergers & Inquisitions

This comment is totally on point. I completely agree.
The Prince of Wall Street
http://www.princeofwallstreet.com

sam5684's picture

Affordable Drug Treatment

There are some drug/alcohol rehabilitation centers which offer free drug addiction treatment to people who can’t afford high expenses of treatment. This motivates people with low economic background to take treatment and get rid of addiction.

lezynski's picture

weed is fine

you wont get cought

plus1's picture

This seems like it is common

This seems like it is common practice in the US, but in the UK I have never heard of an IB carrying out drug tests. I interned at 2 top BB and never was there a mention of testings!

I find this strange as I am sure there is as much drug use and abuse here as there is is NY. Mental

stubrummen's picture

I think it depends on what

I think it depends on what you test for. Not everyone test for the same substances...I've even heard of companies that won't test for weed for example. methadone rehab | pain pill addiction

pedigreed monkey's picture

some places actually make

some places actually make you pee in the office on the first? thats kinda weird... isnt the whole point of the drug test a "pre-employment" procedure, along with background checks? the few times ive had to take a drug test for a job it was always at a 3rd-party lab and they give you a certain deadline of when to take it, like 2 weeks before your start date or whatever.

i cant believe some places make you test in your first day as an intern...seems illogical. what a waste of resources to fully hire someone and get them settled in, only to kick them out immediately if they find out theyve been using drugs

tiberiu's picture

drugs

Depends on the company.. Large companies may require you to take a drug test. But such tests are just like an alcohol treatment center It depends on you to be drug free for your own safety. Just try to be drug free all the time if you want a job and one that pays well.

MacUser101's picture

hair testing

Does anyone know if the large firms are using hair testing? In particular, I'm wondering about Citigroup and also UBS. Is urine testing currently what their using, or do they do hair testing, which is much more sensitive and goes back 90 days?

bearing's picture

The hair test is the one

The hair test is the one that goes back 90 days. No I don't know specifically what UBS and Citi does but all the firms I have worked for only did the urine test.

http://www.craigmedical.com/Hair_Drug-Test_FAQ.htm

bearing's picture

Testing Link

Also for people's future reference this website is a compilation of all companies that drug test and what method they use.

http://www.testclear.com/dtcompanies/searchcompany2.cfm

MacUser101's picture

Thanks

Thanks for the fast reply. I had been looking at the testclear site, and didn't see anything in particular about Citi and UBS. It seems that most firms do urine, but the hair is becoming more common, and can find minor things from 2 or 3 months back, so it would be really good to know. There were no recent mentions on these 2 companies, so if anyone has information it would be greatly appreciated.

leerehabs's picture

Substance Depedency

Substance abuse treatments contain therapies for all drugs and alcohol abuse. The fresh and healthy environment is an important factor for effective treatment because, it helps patient to live in drug and alcohol free surroundings.
http://www.drugrehabscenters.com/terms/Substance-Abuse-Treatments/index....

MichaelW's picture

If you are concerned about

If you are concerned about whether or not you will pass a drug test, the safest possible way to handle the situation would be to have a drug detox. This would ensure that everything has been cleared out of your system.

tom1928's picture

do they test for alcohol?

do they test for alcohol?

drexelalum11's picture

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hbt1989 wrote:

do they test for alcohol?

No, but they do test for common sense

PnL's picture

yes, all BBs test for

yes, all BBs test for alcohol. They do a blood test as well as hair. if you've had a drink in the past 60-90 days you are fucked. good luck

Putz's picture

Hilarious

drexelalum11 wrote:
hbt1989 wrote:

do they test for alcohol?

No, but they do test for common sense

Nice

tom1928's picture

lol. eh, america is so

lol. eh, america is so particular about drugs and such i wouldn't be surprised if some test was actually used for it. just thought i'd ask to be sure =D

Putz's picture

Don't Worry

hbt1989 wrote:

lol. eh, america is so particular about drugs and such i wouldn't be surprised if some test was actually used for it. just thought i'd ask to be sure =D

No problem, it's just the fact that alcohol is completely processed by your liver within 12 hours and that drinking is a centerpiece of banking culture (and non-Mormon American culture in general) that caused everyone to be so amused by your comment.

tom1928's picture

still underage

haha true. i just wanted to be sure since im underage still ;)

models_and_bottles's picture

I actually had a breathalyzer

My drug test included a breathalyzer to my surprise (found it to be a little over the top). I doubt it would be a problem unless you hit the bottle hard the night before.

tom1928's picture

sarcasm?

i cant tell if you're joking... but that definitely would be quite odd

models_and_bottles's picture

Not joking

Not joking...I was pretty surprised too. I really didn't care but I'm guessing they catch somebody now and then who's really hungover.

drexelalum11's picture

Why

models_and_bottles wrote:

Not joking...I was pretty surprised too. I really didn't care but I'm guessing they catch somebody now and then who's really hungover.

Why would they care if you come to your drug test hungover though?

dacarez's picture

Annual thread

I love how this topic comes up every year, haha.

models_and_bottles's picture

Quote: Why would they care

Quote:

Why would they care if you come to your drug test hungover though?

Perhaps lack of discipline? If you can't go a night without drinking, you might be in a for a rough summer.

DontMakeMeShortYou's picture

A breathalyzer wouldn't pick

A breathalyzer wouldn't pick anything up, even if a person came in hung over. I call bullshit.

models_and_bottles's picture

Quote: I call bullshit. I

Quote:

I call bullshit.

I suppose idiots have rights to opinions too.

h.e.pennypacker's picture

DontMakeMeShortYou, You most

DontMakeMeShortYou,

You most certainly can blow while hungover. You have never woken up still drunk from staying out til 3:30/4:00/bar close? I have a buddy who, when he was underage, got a ticket when he showed up to a tailgate having not had a drink yet, thanks to the night before.

Sounds like you're having a great college experience...

johnson.gr87's picture

so urine or hair?

what did you find out, urine testing or hair testing?