Epic Systems Corporation
Anyone hear of these guys? They contacted me last week, said they were interested in my background. Looks like an Healthcare IT Software place in Wisconsin.
Anyone hear of these guys? They contacted me last week, said they were interested in my background. Looks like an Healthcare IT Software place in Wisconsin.
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I have a friend who works there. He's a software engineer though so the work does not involve anything related to finance..
They recruited at my college. Their job description made them sound like they deal in database management and data mining within the healthcare domain. They primarily recruited for Technical Consultant and Project Manager/Implementation Consultant positions. My guess is that they advice healthcare companies on how to handle their IT database (patient records e.t.c.) requirements.
That's right - nothing related to finance. So the question is then (if I want to get into finance), does it look good for B-School? Or should I just stay where I am now (MO at a middle-market bank)? They want me for some project manager position so there's a leadership aspect related to the job. (Although from reviews on Glassdoor, it does look like everyone leaves after 1-2 years out of frustration. And I would be moving from NYC to the middle of nowhere, Wisconsin which really sucks)
just see how much u get paid man. then decide
Let's see...you're asking whether you should leave a job that's relatively close to the one you want, to move from the finance capital of North America (at least) to Wisconsin, probably for less money, to work somewhere that no banker has probably ever heard of?
Maybe if people actually liked their jobs at this place, then you could argue for it. But it sounds like a dud.
I'm a consultant and actually working for one of Epic's competitors right now, so any insight I have was built up over the past couple of months of living and breathing HIT.
Epic is the darling of the industry. In the world of HIT, they have by far the highest quality products. I mean, they have customers coming to them and getting rejected rather than having to bid in RFPs. I haven't seen the Glassdoor information, but I know that they have a policy (formal, informal, I don't know) of trying to keep the average age of their employees under 30 (which is completely different from the firm I'm working for now... 50-year-olds are not great software innovators).
Wisconsin may not be the most exciting place, but Epic is a great place to work which pays pretty well, especially considering the low cost of living. Their offices are amazing (find pictures) and they have a reputation for being a pretty quality place to work. You'll live well. In terms of b-school opps, I don't really know, but Epic is a cool company in an industry that is going to see good times over the next couple of years with ARRA/HITECH pumping money in.
I go to college at the UW, and here a lot of the the smart computer science guys end up going to Epic. Pay is around 70,000 a year for an entry level position my friend has teaching different clients how to implement Epic's healthcare software.
Furthermore, there are positions for banking there. I'm in the business school, and some of the smartest guys go to Epic to do corporate finance/accounting. There is definitely very little room for investment banking there, however, so be wary.
Also, winters suck in Madison. Just something to be aware of.
Lol, I work in corporate finance right now and I want out...where do the smart CS guys at Epic end up after 2-3 years? My goal is S&T after B-School.
Interesting. I graduate this semester and have an onsite interview with Epic next week for the "problem solver" position which apparently consists of flying around the country and helping hospitals use the software. Sounds like a good thing right after college, but my concern is that once you leave, are you stranded in a professional no-man's land?
I worked at 5 years at Epic doing project implementations and now I'm a first year MBA at a top school. It's consulting, so a good amount of travel, very good exposure and experience, but a goofy company software company (think Google, Apple etc.).
After Epic, a lot of the implementation/consulting folks go on to B-School (I have buddies at MBA programs at Michigan, Northwestern, Cornell, and Yale all from Epic).
It is definitely NOT a "no-mans" land as far as post-Epic opportunities (although a developer or tech services guy might be somewhat in no-mans land), since your skills are more project-management and consulting oriented and can apply to several different industries. Plus many consulting firms (Deloitte, EY, Accenture) have Epic branches and it is extremely easy to get jobs at these firms if you have Epic experience.
If you want anymore info just let me know.
Owl, I'm considering a project manager position at Epic with the expectation of spending a few years there and then B-school. I've heard that Epic won't provide you with references/recommendations for jobs upon leaving Epic, but does this apply to grad school, as well?
Additionally, how does the non-compete agreement apply to working at the consulting companies that you mention? I've also heard that Epic has agreements with several of these companies that bars them from hiring former Epic employees.
Appreciate your thoughts.
bump. Could use some insight because this company recruits for OCR.
They recruit from top schools and pay really well. There are various position, but most involve somehow working with clients to some degree, either from the IT/CS side of things or implementing.targeting new systems and whatnot. They have some finance roles, too. No idea how it looks on a b-school resume, but it is not a bad job and you'll be earning a lot relative to your cost of living. There is a lot of travel, but the overall hours are pretty light in comparison to most other jobs that are going to pay you that much out of college.
Thanks a lot Jerome. Just wish someone knew how it looks on a bschool resume...
Yeah, any information on exit ops for this place would be awesome! Just curious....
I interviewed with that place. They flew me out to Wisconsin and treated me pretty nicely. It's a pretty weird place to be honest with you. The culture is very nerdy, and they are really into environmentalism. I actually saw a guy with a teenage mutant ninja turtles shirt on and some flip flops.
If you are a finance guy and are into the wall street culture, this place isn't for you. You won't fit in with your nice slacks and button-down.
Owl, I was just offered a position as a project manager/implementer at Epic. I'm from the east coast and have lived here all my life but am intrigued by the idea of moving to Madison and working at Epic. Seems like both have a very young feel which is kind of what I'm looking for in an entry-level position. Plus the salary is good and seems like there is potential for a decent bonus as well. However, I've read some negative things about hours and incompetent project leads. Right now I'd say I'm leaning toward taking the offer but I just had two questions for you since it seems like you were there a while.
1) Are the negative comments I see on the internet just from complainers or people who have some kind of objection to a work week that goes over 40-50 hours? That's kind of the impression I get. That they don't really understand that with good compensation comes a lot of expectations. Or are they right and is it really pretty hard to have a life while there?
2) It seems like there is a pretty big turnover rate in this position. Most people only last 1-3 years. So before even taking the job I've begun thinking of exit strategies and opportunities afterward. Just doing a google search for Epic certified consultants seems to bring up tons of hits no matter where in the country you want to live. You kind of hinted at this in your last post but could you elaborate just a little on some of the post-Epic opportunities.
Thanks
Hey Nigel, 1) I'd say you are both right. The pay is good (and raises are outrageously high over the first few years), but with that comes high expectations. A lot of the heavy lifting tapers off after your first year as you become comfortable with the life of a consultant and learning about the healthcare industry. You will start with a group 100-200 new hires that will likely be young and pretty fun. As for comments regarding project leads, there is probably some truth to that. A lot of that comes from the fact that they've grown so much over the last few years (from ~3000 employees to almost 5000 employees).
2) If you are staying in the healthcare industry, you'll never have to worry about unemployment ever again. Every major consulting firm has an Epic practice, so a lot of people end up at Deloitte, Accenture, IBM, or smaller, boutique firms. If you plan on leaving healthcare you will still have great project management/consulting services skills to rely on, so it's still fairly easy to find employers...it's probably just a little harder since they probably won't recognize the Epic brand name.
All in all I thought it was a great job and great experience for me. There were some weeks where I complained that it was the worst job ever, but there were a lot of really fun weeks on challenging projects. Plus it's awesome if you want do some travelling, but not be living out of a suitcase (you will travel about every other week).
As for Madison, it's a pretty fun town (obviously cold in the winter) with lots of great restaurants and bars. It's also a two hour drive from Chicago and an hour and a half from Milwaukee which can be nice.
Hope that helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Hey everyone, I'm new here and have a question about Epic Systems. I just got a VERY generic e-mail from them telling me that they found my resume and are encouraging me to apply for a Project Manager position. I have my undergrad in history from James Madison and am one semester away from a master's in Terrorism and Security Policy from American University. This is DEFINITELY not what I'm trying to do long-term...but I'm going to have to start paying back my student loans in May and I don't have any job offers as of now. I don't have any IT experience at all, and the only data I've analyzed is crime statistics...so I don't really understand why they want me to apply, or if it was just a mass produced e-mail that was e-mailed to hundreds of people whose resume's they came across on Monster. Thoughts?
Hey JMU, I can speak to this...you probably did just get a generic email based on a Monster.com algorithm. That being said, Epic is much more interested in finding good, smart people than someone with pertinent experience. In fact, when I worked there, I felt like half the workforce was random science-based majors [like yours :) ] from top tier undergrad institutions. I'd encourage you to apply. Let me know if you have any questions.
I am a consultant, is actually one of Epic's competitors, and now work, any more than I have established over the past two months living and breathing HIT insights...
I was just an an email to apply for a Word Artist/Technical Writing team position with EPIC. I have never done this type of work but have extremely strong verbal and written communication skills. I am also in College for a Masters in Education with emphasis in Family and Community. I live in the South East but see that if hired this company actually helps with moving expenses, etc. Does anyone know anything about this position and whether or not it is worth it to relocate so far away. I will say job opportunities here have been really bad so this looks almost too good to be true. I just want to make as educated a decision as possible before proceeding.
I interviewed there and did my research on the company back in 2010. From what I've seen in-person and gathered, most of the people at Epic is very young. The campus is pretty nice, and it's fairly close to Madison. Madison is a small town, but it does have university of wisconsin there, so there is a young culture there. If you are starting at Epic, it feels more like an extension of college than an actual job. The coding language they use is kind of outdated (maybe it changed since then, I'm not sure), and pretty much no other software company use that language (except maybe banks with ancient systems, I don't know). Most of the talented and bright coders leave after 1-2 years once they realize they are stuck with a unusable skill that has no career potential. I personally know a few people that left the company after 1 year due to this fact. These guys all went into finance/consulting. So to replace the talent pool Epic has to keep recruiting college grads. If you look them up, they have a very high turnover rate. The people who decide to stay on there are probably not coders. If you just want to get experience, I'd say go for it. If you are going into software development or anything tech related, I wouldn't advise it.
Epic Systems Corp (Originally Posted: 09/29/2011)
Hey Guys,
I am being recruited by epic systems corp for two roles, project manager/implementation consultant and Staffer.
I have a pretty good idea of what the PM does, but if anyone would care to speak from experience that would be appreciated.
Does anyone know exactly what the staffer role entails? The website says you work directly with management on internal problems, can anyone elaborate? Is it like internal strategy or is more like being an assistant?
Also, what is life in Madison like? Is it a good place to live? Does anyone have any advice or opinions about epic or either of these roles?
Thanks so much
A close family member works here. He just started and works on the technical implementation side of things. He loves it. I can't speak to either of those two roles specifically though.
A few thoughts:
The company is doing just a huge amount of hiring. I think they are bringing on like 500 people this year alone. At the same time, it has a lot of turnover. The company is OK with this.
The company is having its moment in the sun right now. It is taking advantage of it. Who knows what things will be like in the future. How in demand will the skills you gain in this job be and how easily will they transfer into something else in the uncertain future?
Things are very decentralized. I asked my family member what his job is and he says its whatever he wants it to be. I ask what his job description is and he says he doesn't have one. I ask who he reports to and he says he doesn't have a boss, just a "team leader." I ask who that person reports to, and he says another team leader.
The campus sounds like a lot of fun. Similar to Google. Not everyone gets to work there though. Quarters are cramped because of all the hiring. The company also has a lot of perks. Apparently they give you free dry cleaning and oil changes, or something.
My family member likes Madison a lot. How much you like it will depend on what you are used to and what you are looking for.
Epic sucks. You do not want to work there. Expect to work 60 hour weeks with little appreciation. Management is terrible. Work-life balance sucks.
See http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Epic-Systems-Corporation-Reviews-E3516… for more details.
head an interview for financial analyst role a while back. Was stuck with one of the worst interviewers (HR or analyst, can't remember too long ago), never looked back. The company doesn't have a bright future as far as I know, with its limited service product, but epic people think they're on par with microsoft. enough said
Epic in Wisconsin (Originally Posted: 04/01/2012)
Anyone heard of Epic in Wisconsin? Anyone know anything about their Project Manager Implementation Consultant position? What kind of a place is it to work for?
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