Hey guys,
I am going to attend a 2 hours writing test + modeling test for an ER position next Tuesday, since I dont have any experience or much knowledge about ER, could anyone give me some advice on what the test might cover or what should I prepare for it? Thanks.
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Definitely search the forum for this - there should be at least two threads.
Pretty much you should feel comfortable with the financial statements, and be able to take an Earnings PR and use it to write a re-cap note somewhat quickly. You know, "XYZ co reported 3Q10 results today. Revs grew _bps y/y to _%, GM's grew _bps to _%, OM's improved _bps to _%. Management reaffirmed guidance ...blah blah blah." That sorta thing w/color and your interpretation of the earnings release. Probably just a recap note in 2 hrs, so likely a flash/quick note that would be 1-2 pg's long.
I imagine they'll probably have you update the model with the info from the PR/earnings release first, and then have you write the report and fill in the numbers based off of your updated model. Have your valuation metrics down.... they'll probably want a price target, and you'll want to know whether to derive it from DCF, P/E, P/S or EV/EBITDA.
My advice is to go to yahoo.com/finance, and look up earnings PR's. Practice taking one and writing a report based off of it. Try to get a few sell side reports (and models if possible) and practice mocking your report after those. If you can get a hold of a model, wipe out one quarter's info in a column, and update the column with a PR you've found.
You've got plenty of time to practice. Good luck.
Thank you very much indeed! But I really have a question that might sound stupid, what do you mean by 'PR'? BTW, my biggest concern is to build a DCF/Multiples model from scratch. May work harder on this. Thanks again.
Yeah, I meant earnings release, sorry about that. Wasn't too clear.
About building the DCF/Multiples... I assume you'll want to do this in your model after you've filled in each financial statement. Let me know if the model the other user sends you doesn't have this analysis, and I'll dig through some models.
I would suggest OP go on docoh.com as well
It's so well organized. Earnings are there with management commentary and conference questions. That's more than enough
edit. Bruh this is 2010 !!!!
I've got a model and a note from when I used to work in ER. It wasn't for a BB but it is all pretty similar. Let me know if you'd like me to forward it to you.
MP80, so nice of u if you can forward it to me. Thanks a lot!
MP80, would you be willing to fwd me the model as well. thanks in advance, Andy
Hi MP80 - I am also looking for ER template. Can you please forward me model?
appreciate your help.
Thanks a lot! kris
Hi, MP80, it will be appreciated if you can forward the ER template to me. Thanks a lot!
Hi MP80, would you kindly forward me your model and note? I am preparing for an ER interview and am in deperate need to get familiarized with how a model works. Thanks a lot!
Me too please!
Hi MP80, if you get a chance, would you mind forwarding me the model and note as well? I am prepping for an equity research interview in Thursday and would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi MP80, I would appreciate it if you could send it to me also. I'm writing up an equity research report and need help. Thanks!
Would you mind sending me this please? It would be a great help. Thanks!
If you dont mind, me too please. thank you so much.
MP80, mind send me a copy of your ER model and note!appreciate your help!
Hi MP80, Do you mind to sent me the ER model and the note? Thanks a loooot for sharing.
i'd love to take a look, too if it's not too much trouble
Hi can you forward me that model and note please. Thank you. I have a ER test coming and trying to prepare.
can you send me the ER model and note as well if it isnt too much trouble! it would be tremendously appreciated!
could you send it to me as well? Thanks man
Did you ever expect that 2 years later people would still be asking you for a copy? I'd really appreciate a copy too. Thanks!
Could you send me a copy of the model and note, I want to practice as I am searching left and right for a ER job and this would be extremely useful.
Thanks in advance,
Any chance you could forward me as well? Have an interview coming up.
MP80 would you please share your model with me as well? I have a two hour test scheduled for next week and to see what is being used would be of great help! really appreciate it! lieven.thomas@yahoo
Can you please send me a copy of the model and note. Thank you :)
Hey MP80, if you could send me the model as well, it would be much appreciated!
It's a long shot, but MP80 do you still have an old model from when you did ER? I'd like to practice updating one w/ a past PR. Appreciate it.
Bananabreads, were you able to get an old model? I would appreciate it alot if you could forward it to me! Thanks!
Hi MP80, I have an upcoming onsite interview coming up with some writing/modeling exercises. I would appreciate it if you could forward me the model and the note from ER so I can best prepare myself? I have never had ER experiences before so I am not sure how I should study for this! Thanks alot!
Would you mind sending me this please? It would be a great help. Thanks!
Hi MP80 it would be awesome if you could send me the material, it would be a HUGE help for an upcoming assessment I have this week! Thanks a million!!
Would be very helpful if I could get that passed on to me as well.
Hi MP80,
Do you still have that model/note? If so, can you forward it to me please?
Much appreciated.
Hi MP, would you be so kind to send me the research note and model? Thanks!
Hi MP80,
Would you please forward the model and notes to me? I'd really appreciate it. Really want to break into ER.
Thank you!
Hey, I'm heading to an Equity Research interview in 2 days, involving a 2-hrs test for a written ER report.
Would you mind sending on the research piece to me? It'd be highly appreciated.
The interviewer mentioned both quantitative (incl valuation & fin modelling) & qualitative aspects are needed for the report... Any advice about the extent of financial modelling needed (& time spent on it during the time-constraint) would be much appreciated. Thanks!
HI MPBO, would you mind sending the model and note one more time? I have an ER interview coming up and would appreciate the practice. thank you
Please do you still have this? If so please may you share with me?
Hi,
Could you please forward the model to my email? I have an interview next week and really need to nail this.
Any chance you're still active??
Think you could send it to me too?
HI, MP80, might be too late to request this in 2022, but I wonder if you still have the model and note? If possible would you please share with me? I have an interview coming up... Thanks.
Hi there- I am prepping for an ER model and writing test rn and would find it so helpful to see your model/note. Any chance you could forward it to me?
Skill Test - Equity Research Associate at Morgan Stanley (Originally Posted: 07/10/2010)
hi guys, i'll have a skills test next week for the Research Associate postion at Morgan Stanley. they say it's a 2-hour standard test for all the entry-level associate candidates. any one know what's it like? excel skills? cash flow projection? modelling? is it difficult? thanks a lot!
I have never heard of these types of test, mind if I ask what is it for? Is this an interview process they are making you do this??
IMO skills of a research guy: writing and modeling
bump.
I would be ready to update a model w/the latest PR (possibly some pro-forma), forecast the rest of the year and next year in the model and write an investment recommendation.
typical stuff then. makes sense. thanks bodhis.
actually, so it's apparently a 4 hour skills test. does that mean there's something snazzy in there?
Just a guess, but the only thing that makes sense to me is PR = Press Release
Equity Research writing & modeling test next week, seeking an ER Model & Advice (Originally Posted: 06/22/2013)
Hey Guys,
I have a 3-hour writing and modeling test for an ER position next week. I'm a CPA and have been exposed to many IB models but don't know what ER models look like. (1) Does anyone have an example of an ER model they can send me? (2) Will I have to look up any info from the Bloomberg machine for these tests? (3) Approximately, what proportion of the 3 hours should be devoted to modeling vs. writing? (4) Will I have to create a model from scratch or update an existing model? (5) Is there any other advice you have?
Thanks a million!
they'll model out the income statement a bit more, other issues lke buybacks, then slap on a PE multiple.
Yeah, I just want to chime in to reiterate what Bodhis said about the writing part of the interview. Companies issue press releases along with their earnings, and you should be prepared to write a report that summarizes the main points of the PR.
An example of a press release http://investor.activision.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=496970
Don't write one lengthy article. Rather, you should be prepared to do the following things:
1) Summarize the entire article with a snappy headline, just like in a newspaper. "Activision 1Q Beat, Raises Guidance for F10" or "Google: Robust Android Market Fuels Growth"
2) Your report should have the three/four most important items in a bulletized, headline format. Write a headline for each, and a paragraph (or two) for each that lays out the facts and describes your opinion.
This is the main body of your report. Each bullet should support your Buy/Sell/Hold recommendation. These four headlines should be below your main headline. The appropriate paragraph should be directly beneath each headline.
The whole idea is to allow your client to skim your report's headlines in roughly 15-20 seconds. By just reading the headlines, they should know all the main points of your article. If they want to read further, they can read your text for your in-depth analysis
Typical items to look for and bulletize would be
a) the main reason that the company is enjoying success/failure, and what that means for the future. b) a secondary reason that the company is enjoying success/failure, or another big impact item. "Google's acquisition of XYZ looks to add $0.10 to F10" c) did the company issue "guidance" for the next quarter's results? If so, that's a bullet. "GOOG reaffirmed F10 outlook" d) last bullet should be your valuation, although this might not be included in your report. "GOOG is a Buy with $550 Price Target" would be the headline, and then you write a few sentences about how you arrived at that conclusion, whether by using a DCF or multiples, etc.
3) Avoid overly sensational language in your writing. Words like: amazing, explosive, huge, etc should usually be avoided.
I can send you a real research piece if you'd like. PM me.
Equity Research Modeling Test (Originally Posted: 10/13/2014)
I have a modeling test at a boutique bank (not sure if bank size matters) for an ER position and it sounds like it will be basics. I'd rather over prepare and was hoping to get some insight on what to expect.
All input is greatly appreciated!
Hi gamenumbers, What you said make a lot of sense for me. Thanks a lot for sharing. Do you mind to sent me the real research piece you mentioned? Thanks a lot/
Hi gamechangers,
Your thread is helpful can you send me that real research piece. Thanks alot.
can you send me a copy of that research piece as well if its not too much trouble! much appreciated!!!
Depends on the firm. Could be a short test where you have an hour or two to fill in a model from a P/R and forecast as much as possible, or it could be longer where you have to build out an entire model. There will definitely be some writing involved as well. What you get might depend on how much modeling experience you claim to have, but those are the two basic types I have come across.
Awesome thanks for the help!
They said it takes 2-3 hours and they make everyone do it. That's the extent of what they told me. I'll prep for both possibilities!
This should help get an idea of what it's like: http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/equity-research-3hr-modeling-exam
Hi Gamenumbers,
Do you mind to send me a research piece please? Thanks so much!
I have over a year of experience in equity research and would ace this very easy interview test. It is quite interesting that I have had such a difficult time trying to even get an interview, yet this kid is interviewing for a position I would be very qualified for and he hardly knows what a press release is.
Equity Research - Modeling Test (Originally Posted: 02/04/2015)
Hi everyone!
I am interviewing for an equity research associate position and I've been told there will be a 2 hour modeling test. Does anyone have any templates that I could use to practice? I've read other posts on here that mention it will likely be updating a model for an earnings release, which I have not done before. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
well your response basically shows why no one wants you- you're a stuck up snob.
Same... What a shame these target school kids keep getting handed these positions and they hardly know a thing
in a way no one really gets trained for a specific job with any degree you learn relevant theoretical concepts for a particular field or multiple fields, the actual job training or knowing the job before you do it, comes through training programs either where you work or through some training institute or an online program, so assuming this target school students get preference due to their ability to work harder since target schools generally have a tougher curriculum, lower acceptance rates (which means only those very good academically get through) and another aspect of this can be that the people in the position to hire someone will be from those target schools so they would prefer someone from a similar academic background
but in the end it depends on how well you can network and how likable as a person you are because the communication aspect matters a lot more in any job since no one wants to work with someone who is just damn awkward when it comes to socializing, think of the weird relative in your family no one wants to talk to or the weird friend/acquaintance you stay away from, additionally the skill level required in finance is not too difficult to learn, so familiarity and likability counts a lot more
Can I get it too? Thanks!
Is this for an SA?
This may be a dumb question, but when someone says to update a model with new numbers/a press release, is that literally just inserting more columns into the spreadsheet and manually adding in the numbers?
Hi!
-No, this would be for a FT position I got through networking.
-And I think that's what "updating a model" entails, but probably projecting out a few years into the future as well. I really don't know though, because the only modeling test I've done involved building out a 3 statement model.
Which company? I believe the modeling test is different across BB's..
HI lhgal,
Did you ever come across a practice model? If so would you forward it to me?
Thanks
This is why I keep coming back to WSO - Lots of interesting and great advice here!
This was great thanks for posting this
MP80, hope you aren't annoyed by the requests, but I also have an Equity Research interview coming up with 2 aptitude tests. It's on friday..yikes 2 days away. Care to forward the model and note? Greatly appreciated!
Help for Writing Test (Originally Posted: 03/20/2014)
I just received a writing test for an equity research position and was looking to get some help on how to approach this and specific points the hiring analyst is looking for.
The assessment requires me to compare two companies that provide the same service.
Company As stock has increased over 300% while Company Bs stock has risen under 10%.
I'm asked to discuss the differences between the companies, why I think the market has valued one more than the other and which stock I would rather own.
How should I approach this? What would you include in your process?
What would be some important things you would look at when doing this analysis?
Where would you look to get all your information?
What important things information would you highlight in the comparison?
Any other advice and suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
good luck.
Is this an interview process they are making you do this?
Pre-hire Research Associate writing test... (Originally Posted: 04/16/2010)
Anybody ever have experience with something like this? I can imagine I'd be provided w/an earnings PR and asked to write up a summary?
Thanks in advance!
i'd isn't supposed to be capitalized?
Just did this for my hire. I got an email at 5 a.m. that contained an empty model, and a blank tab that said 'valuation'. Also had a 10Q (in your case it will prob be a 10K) for a company that was within their coverage. They said to use any available public information (i.e. press releases and presentations from their website) to fill out the model. Then use a valuation method of your choice. Then do a write up summarizing the operating & financial condition of the company. End with a recommendation and your thoughts on the stock.
My advice after doing this--
Nail the valuation and the write up. For the write up I used a research report template--Ill send you mine if you want it. Learn some things about the industry and methods that are important for valuation and mention them in the report. For example, go to google and search for investor metrics for oil and gas or something like that. You will find something like ebitdax / ev & PV10. Important to the industry, and it will show that you have good research skills.
Finally, have as many people read it as possible for errors & remember to use strong technical language that is as concise as possible.
What template did you use for your report? I have templates from the top firms but figured yours was more simple if it's for a quick interview
Hi! Would you mind sending me the report template that you used? I do appreciate your help. I have an 2hour interview for investment analyst coming next week and am trying to practice cuz my experience is very limited. Thanks!
Hi SK8247365,
Would you mind to send me your research report template please? thanks so much!!
-J
Would it be possible to get a copy of that template?
Hi, would you please send me the template? I have a modeling+writing exercise in two days, and would greatly appreciate it if you could share the template with me.
Hello Please may you share with me your research template?
Hi sk8247365, your suggestions are super helpful! Any chance I can get a copy of your template please?
I passed the first-round interview and preparing for written test now so any input is greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
Excellent, thanks for the info.
Thanks for the helpful answer. Any chance you can send me the research report template you mention? Would be SO appreciated!
Can I get a copy of that research report template? I want to break into Equity Research like no other!
I'm not interviewing for a position or need it, but I would find it interesting to look at as well if it's an easy send.
Thanks.
Anyone has experience with a writing test as part of the interview? (Originally Posted: 03/08/2008)
Hi all,
updating from last week
So I had a phone interview with the China Growth ER team at Susquehanna International Group. I'm schedule to take an online writing test tomorrow and was wondering if any of you have any experiences with a writing test?
The writing test is suppose to last about 3 hours and suppose to simulate an earnings call. Would you have any suggestions on how to prepare for this? I'm going to listen to some earnings calls of the companies that the group covers, if I can still find any.
Appreciate all the help!! Thanks so much!!!
i think you already answered your own question concerning the interview. it should be mostly fit with general questions on market and stocks. phone interviews tend to be very straight forward with very few, if any, surprises.
in terms of in depth industry knowledge, bankers dont even come close to er guys...that's why there's a vetting process. pe firms are mostly looking for modeling and deal making skills, and that's why banking experience tends to be more suitable for the job. im not sure if er is the right thing if your next move is pe...although i've seen it happen. sell side er --> hedge fund is the more traditional career path.
MP80, I know it may be a long shot but do you still have that model and note you mentioned 2 years ago? I have an interview in 2 days and just found this thread. Hope you can send me a copy. Much appreciated!!!
Press Release Writing Assessment? (Originally Posted: 05/29/2014)
I have an upcoming writing assessment with an ER firm. They simply emailed me and said that they will email me an article/press release and ask me to write about it. I would have one hour to complete the assessment. To be clear, I will not receive a model. I will only have the press release and would be allowed to use the internet.
I've tried using the search function and the replies were a bit too vague to be particularly useful. Could someone give me an a breakdown as to what I can expect/do?
Correct me if I am wrong. The PR is probably an earnings update and I'm thinking I would need to write a company update with the following categories:
-Company description -A few major developments based on the press release
They expect 3-4 paragraphs. Thing is, aren't PR fairly short as well? How do I write 3-4 paragraphs if summarizing it would probably take 1-2 paragraphs at most. Am I missing a category that I should touch upon?
I'm a bit new to this sort of writing assessment and would really appreciate any input you may have.
Cheers.
Agreed that you will get an earnings PR, most likely. So they're looking for you to write a faux earnings note. You may also get a copy of the analyst's last note, which will help you identify what they're looking for. 1hr might be kind of tough if you've never done anything like it before.
A quick outline could look like this: 1. Results recap (revenue, EPS, EBITDA), how those metrics changed year over year, and discuss any operating metrics that are important (reserves for O&G, monthly active users for an internet company, etc). 2. Guidance, changes vs previous guidance (need previous PR), discuss factors influencing company's ability to meet guidance. 3. Opinion on outlook for the quarter and year, changes to estimates, etc.
If you've got extra time, you could read the earnings call transcript to get a better idea of content to discuss. This kind of exercise is hard if it's a company you've never thought about before, but I hope that helps.
Just adding to charlie: The opinion section can help set you apart. Read up on the industry and write up something thoughtful. Don't just parrot whatever management said on the call.
They also care a lot about style. Be careful with grammar and try to be concise.
ER Writing Test (Originally Posted: 07/24/2014)
Hey all --
Have a writing sample that I have to provide to a lead analyst by tomorrow. The note I have is largely done, however, I'm wondering if I have to include my "estimates" and price target and such. I'm writing an earnings summary for a company that just recently released 2nd quarter 2014 results. I don't want to overstep my ground here, but I also don't want to provide what would seem like a half-assed write-up due to me not including my "estimates." Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Could you send it my way as well? Thanks man.
Well, if there is a hold on it there is no target price. So if it was poor earnings you could just say maintain our hold rating. You could probably even get away with that for a buy if you are careful, but if you want to go beyond what they asked for then yeah go ahead and put in estimates.
False. You may have a hold, but you still have a directional bias. Also, JPM/MS/GS will have PTs in a "hold" environment...
My only concern regarding that is if I include estimates, that opens a whole array of questions that could come surrounding how I got to my #'s and seeing as though I don't have a model to work off of, I wouldn't have much ground to walk on. I guess I just answered my own question, but I suppose using consensus #'s wouldn't be a bad idea?
It's way more about how you get to the numbers than what you have. Just be able to justify any assumption you make. And you an always go without if you don't feel like you have enough time.
Having never spent a day working in ER but having read countless reports and spoken to most of the analysts in my space I would be really impressed if you had a simple operating model that you could reference to support your high level numbers (even if your assumptions were driven off of consensus data). I realize this would probably require another few hours of work but I think it might stand to differentiate your candidacy from other applicants. I realize this is above and beyond a simple writing sample request. Good luck to you.
The one area I lack expertise in (pretty much the sole reason I want to move) is my lack of modeling skills. With that said, how would one build a "simple" operating model...I figure it would be good practice as well.
Also if my current company has a working model for this company, would it be wrong for me to utilize that as my "model" and make any forecasting changes as I see fit?
Ethically you shouldn't given that it is the property of your company and likely falls under any confidentiality agreement that you may have. With that said, if you have access to a full blown model you should be able to build a very simple version from scratch. Take 3 years of historicals and forecast out 5 years based on your tweaked assumptions. If you feel comfortable you can build in 3 cases (base, upside, downside) but it sounds like, based on your own admission, that your modelling skills are weak. If your goal is ER then you will ultimately have to spend the time, money, and resources to get your modelling skills up speed, which honestly isnt that difficult if you are willing to put the time in. The math is straight-forward and even if you do not understand accounting you can teach yourself by taking one of your company's existing models and seeing how the 3 statements link together.
Hi fluff head, I am interviewing for an associate role this week. Any suggestions following your experience last year? Modeling is not my strength so I am not sure what to expect for the modeling test this week.
The last question I have pertains to the format of the write up...should it be in an research-ish template with a fake company name? Should it mimic their company's template with their company's name?
If I could have a copy as well it would be greatly appreciated!
i'd love a copy too, thanks
Hi guys,
Does anyone have a copy of the model and research note. I would like to see this as well.
Bump
Could I have a copy as well. I would greatly appreciate that!
If anyone could send me the research piece or the model I would really appreciate it, thank you!
Hey, if anyone has the research note and/or model and could pass it along to me that would be great. Thanks.
Yea if someone could pm me the model as well it would be much appreciated
hi, new to the site and started reading up on this topic (not in equity research or finance). anyway, am curious and want to learn about equity research models. much appreciated if anyone can share a sample equity research model or test.
Same here. Would be interested in learning more about the model and the test.
same here. interview with a BB next week. will greatly appreciate and buy you a drink once I land the job.
Same here, If I could have a copy as well it would be greatly appreciated!
Please send me the model
Hey guys, if it's not too much trouble could I get a copy of the sample model and report as well? Would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I'd greatly appreciate if you could pm me the model as well, or someone who has already gotten the model from him. Thanks!
All the people signing up to WSO just to milk the person.
Hey..not to be a stickler. I have heard of analysts dissuading their associates from sending models to clients (prior to removing all but the 3 statements/final summary sheet). It's kind of like an unwritten rule that ex-associates should also not be distributing their ex-analyst's models. If the author of the model was the poster, than that is fine. Just my 2 cents.
I would greatly appreciate if someone could forward the model to me also. Thanks so much!
This post is old but has anyone here gotten the model to test it out for themselves?
Any chance anyone still has this model/writing sample and would be able to PM me with it? Thanks!
could anyone please send me the model? I have a test coming up. Thanks a lot!
If anyone is able to forward me the samples as well, it would be much appreciated.
Can someone please send this over to me as well?
Did you or anyone else get a copy of the model? If so please send it my way
This is ridiculous. Surely the original poster didn't spend hours of his time forwarding models to everyone who asked. Everyone just put in the grunt work yourself, spend a few hours digging around the internet and googling different topics. You'll find plenty of sample models, as case studies and standalone xls templates. There's tons of white papers of Modeling tests that walk you through the entire process step by step. This forum has been a great resource to myself and I'm sure as well for everyone interested in investing, etc. but quit asking the guy for stuff after the 15th or 20th person does. Just make your own thread and request one, I'm sure someone will reply and PM you one. This is just a waste and like beating a dead horse.
Dat dere Model much needed brah. Thanks brah.
Great thread. Thanks for info.
Can someone kindly forward me that model? I have an 2-hour ER test coming up next week. Many thanks!
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