First week on the job already made a mistake

I'm a banking analyst and it's my first week on the job and I already made a boat load of typos in a deck that we sent to a client. Is it common to make mistakes? Will I get shitty staffings now?

 

Yeah sounds like a troll. Even most non-financial institutions use a "two eyes on" rule for any important correspondences. NOBODY, regardless of rank, publishes deliverables without the having been at least quickly checked for minor errors and typos.

 

I see it going one of two ways:

1) the client misses it and you get a pass, everyone in the office who say will take note and for the foreseeable future you'll probably get shitty staffings and be the butt end of office comedy

2) the client sees it and takes exception to it. The MD gives the VP shit who in turn gives the associate shit who then turns to you and shits on you. Maybe you survive, maybe you don't.... really depends on how generous your superiors are and how much business you (may have) just lost

 
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Okay first piece of advice is RELAX.

Go look up some principals of meditation "Worrying has no positive impacts" in a main tenant. Now not saying not to "care" what I'm saying here is most people that go into Investment Banking have severe type A personalities and expect to be perfect from day one... We know you will mess up. So below are some basic tips for a complete newbie.

  1. Copy and paste all numbers (replace the comma with a period to move from M's to B's or 000's to M's etc)
  2. Learn to catch big mistakes first (seems like you've done this) but it bears repeating, if a model or comp sheet shows some stupid multiple, margin profile, growth rate that stands out relative to the average, you've got a problem.
  3. Go through a senior analyst's pitch book. Go onto your X: drive, print out a BASIC pitchbook. This is the work you're going to get in the beginning anyway and spend a few minutes comparing the mistakes.
  4. Use a highlighter. When changes are made and you get a "markup" take a yellow highlighter and compare the markup to the new document and highlight the "mark" then highlight on your copy to confirm the correct change.
  5. Not sure how small your bank is but look for your own company made macros for formatting in excel powerpoint, word etc. This should save you time.
  6. Highlight the date on each comp sheet and front of the page. This makes sure you KNOW it is the updated version. Using a copy past special of an excel sheet and "send to back" is very fast, so make sure that date changes and you know its the newer version.

If you provide more info on the type of mistakes you're making, happy to respond.

Finally, seriously relax, if your "errors" are formatting... Thats nothing compared to some bigger errors first years make. Like sending out "draft" copies to clients. Formatting errors can be found in any pitchbook beyond 50 or so pages... seriously.. every single one of them... there will be something wrong in there.

You know what... Actually it seems like you're doing a GOOD job because they are giving you work and assigning you more work. Thats not a joke comment.

"Don't worry if they yell or get upset... Worry when they no longer assign you work"

If they don't want to assign you work... See you in the conference room.

 
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Okay first piece of advice is RELAX.

Go look up some principals of meditation "Worrying has no positive impacts" in a main tenant. Now not saying not to "care" what I'm saying here is most people that go into Investment Banking have severe type A personalities and expect to be perfect from day one... We know you will mess up. So below are some basic tips for a complete newbie.

  1. Copy and paste all numbers (replace the comma with a period to move from M's to B's or 000's to M's etc)
  2. Learn to catch big mistakes first (seems like you've done this) but it bears repeating, if a model or comp sheet shows some stupid multiple, margin profile, growth rate that stands out relative to the average, you've got a problem.
  3. Go through a senior analyst's pitch book. Go onto your X: drive, print out a BASIC pitchbook. This is the work you're going to get in the beginning anyway and spend a few minutes comparing the mistakes.
  4. Use a highlighter. When changes are made and you get a "markup" take a yellow highlighter and compare the markup to the new document and highlight the "mark" then highlight on your copy to confirm the correct change.
  5. Not sure how small your bank is but look for your own company made macros for formatting in excel powerpoint, word etc. This should save you time.
  6. Highlight the date on each comp sheet and front of the page. This makes sure you KNOW it is the updated version. Using a copy past special of an excel sheet and "send to back" is very fast, so make sure that date changes and you know its the newer version.

If you provide more info on the type of mistakes you're making, happy to respond.

Finally, seriously relax, if your "errors" are formatting... Thats nothing compared to some bigger errors first years make. Like sending out "draft" copies to clients. Formatting errors can be found in any pitchbook beyond 50 or so pages... seriously.. every single one of them... there will be something wrong in there.

You know what... Actually it seems like you're doing a GOOD job because they are giving you work and assigning you more work. Thats not a joke comment.

"Don't worry if they yell or get upset... Worry when they no longer assign you work"

If they don't want to assign you work... See you in the conference room.

I'm saving this. About to start my first job at a boutique PE shop and I have a feeling I'm gonna need this. SB for you sir.

Move along, nothing to see here.
 

before submitting a draft, print out a hard copy and read through for spelling mistakes, correct formatting, numbers tying, etc. triple check everything. besides that, what more can you do, right?

this is not the end of the world. bankers have a tendency to make stupid shit seem ridiculously important, can't let these small things get to you.

 

LOL, I remember for my banking internship this summer I was updating a universe for precedent transactions. The implied EV/EBITDA for a comp was 19x, I thought, "NBD. They must have really wanted these guys, thought they could unearth a lot of value, etc." NO! Just print it out, go over it slowly, catch what you can.

Good luck!

The difference between successful people and others is largely a habit - a controlled habit of doing every task better, faster and more efficiently.
 

Was a BB analyst and then associate, now a senior associate in PE. Used to think I would never cut it as a banker since my books had mistakes in my first year.

  1. Always print out and read once before submitting anything. ALWAYS

  2. Know what the standard analyst mistakes are and make sure they aren't there in your book, for example - numbers across the book should tally (no difference in revenue numbers between slide 1 and slide 3), if you are updating an old book then be doubly careful that all info is updated, font sizes should be same ( a print can quickly catch this), standard colors across the book, all footnotes should be updated and tie in with whatever is the the main body. Most mistakes happen because you tend to get into a processing mode and shut down the basic filtering mechanism in your head. Just take a step back and check if whatever you have written makes sense and you can explain any questions that might pop up in the mind of the reader.

  3. Look for inconsistencies in financials, growth is usually positive and steady unless its some dot com or distressed asset, margins don't move up or down dramatically (if they do, understand why that happens), multiples for companies in a sector will be broadly in line, a 20-30% difference is fine, if 200% then question why and check your numbers again.

But its a simple game of being hyper paranoid about every single word and number in your slides and in 3-4 months you will internalize this stuff and be able to do things correct the first time around. Its not natural for people to focus on getting their commas and decimal points right, it is an acquired skill

I dont post much but you seem to have the right attitude, so thought I'd drop my 2 pence, Just hang in there and keep up the attitude, you will do really well.

 

Proofread everything carefully multiple times.

Stay disciplined when you go back through things. Think about each sentence and each number again individually to see if they make sense by themselves.

The "good" news is that before too long this will come naturally to you, and you'll be able to "feel" when things are wrong, or off... the bad news is it'll take a year of working 14 hours a day on bullshit to develop that ability, and you wont be able to work quickly and efficiently on things that have to be right for closer to two years.

And don't beat yourself up too badly. A lot of people make mistakes at their first job.

 

I'd just like to point out that the thread title is a little misleading. I was expecting a Brady-style "like rabbits" in the body of the text. Try reading your work from another's point of view...it might help you uncover details such as this in your work product.

 

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