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Georgetown(McDonough) v NYU(Stern) v USC(Marshall)
 

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baus
     
 
(Chimp, 5
 
Points)
 on 3/31/11 at 3:41am

I'm a HS senior from SoCal. I am considering Georgetown, USC, and NYU.
My goal is to major in business/finance and land a job in Wallstreet in an IB/PE/HF
I've been asking people for advice and reading blogs for a couple of days now.

This is what I know of each school (both pros + cons):

USC - I've received the trustee scholarship (full scholarship) so that's obviously a major plus. It's a 20 minute drive from my house, I'll be near my family and friends. Obviously great social life. However, USC Marshall is located in the West, far from NYC and is not heavily recruited by firms in NYC. Although everyone does talks of the power of the Trojan family alumni connection

NYU - I received a half scholaship which ends up with me paying about 30k a year. Location is excellent and Stern is more prestigious than USC, especially for finance. Also, from what I've heard, much better in landing Wallstreet jobs.

GTown - Have not yet received my financial package. Overall, it is the most prestigious school overall and is a sort of "brand name." Biggest mystery out of the three schools, I do not know how the translation to Wallstreet is nor the recruitment it receives from BB firms.

Just a side note: Weather, Social Life aren't too important for me, as I feel I will have fun and can fit in fine in all three places. I want to know the more business, job aspect.

Please Help me Decide, any comment/suggestion will help. Thanks!

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APAE's picture

Georgetown will not help you

APAE
     
 
(Neanderthal, 3,660
 
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 on 3/31/11 at 4:46am

Georgetown will not help you much for recruiting. USC is a semi-target at best, and if you're motivated by graduating debt-free take it. Stern is by far and away the best option for you here, especially if they gave you that much money. It's pretty crappy aid there.

Stern tends to get shit on here on WSO but the fact of the matter is that the recruiting on campus is godly and the placement has been absurd lately and the location factor tops it all off, you have access to work or networking opportunities around the year.

A lot of people do certain things to add days to their life. I do things to add life to my days.

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chubbybunny's picture

If you're dead set on

chubbybunny
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(Orangutan, 264
 
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 on 3/31/11 at 4:51am

If you're dead set on banking/finance, then among the choices you have, NYU Stern hands down.

This is on a completely "recruiting" standpoint, in terms of employment, so if you have hard-ons for other intangibles such as weather, community, sports and all that other stuff then I'd put G-town on top (more prestigious, better overall school).

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HarvardOrBust's picture

If you want to be on Wall

HarvardOrBust
      PE
 
(Senior Gorilla, 977
 
Points)
 on 3/31/11 at 5:46am

If you want to be on Wall St., Stern will get you there. USC gives you a great shot at firms in California, but haven't heard of many Trojans in NY.

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txjustin's picture

You really have two choices:

txjustin
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(Neanderthal, 2,447
 
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 on 3/31/11 at 7:51am

You really have two choices: USC and see fine ass biatches everyday or NYU and see manly lookin biatches everyday. If you are dead set on IB, then NYU IMO. At your age my dick did the thinkin for me.

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econ's picture

HarvardOrBust wrote: haven't

econ
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(Neanderthal, 2,416
 
Points)
 on 3/31/11 at 8:01am
HarvardOrBust:

haven't heard of many Trojans in NY.

What does the NY man wear?

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txjustin wrote: You really

George Parr
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(Baboon, 137
 
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 on 3/31/11 at 8:10am
txjustin:

You really have two choices: USC and see fine ass biatches everyday or NYU and see manly lookin biatches everyday. If you are dead set on IB, then NYU IMO. At your age my dick did the thinkin for me.

Haha. nice.

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econ wrote: HarvardOrBust

Akusokuzan
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(Monkey, 30
 
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 on 3/31/11 at 8:52am
econ:
HarvardOrBust:

haven't heard of many Trojans in NY.

What does the NY man wear?

Nice

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West Coast rainmaker's picture

I was going to tell you to

West Coast rainmaker
      ER
 
 
(Neanderthal, 2,092
 
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 on 3/31/11 at 9:01am

I was going to tell you to pick between USC and NYU (USC giving you the better college experience, NYU giving better recruiting), but 30k per year? USC all the way.

I might be biased; just look at my username. But, imo, USC will give you a fantastic college experience with access to good recruiting. Proportionately, there might not be many Marshall guys in NYC, but there was at least one at every BB interview I went to on the west coast.

SoCal, hot girls, great parties vs. 120k in the hole on graduation, no real campus, crappy weather. I am not denying Stern has slightly better placement, but I would not say it is 120k better. Also, enjoy college. Looking back, I wish I had chosen a slightly less "prestigious" school that I would have enjoyed versus; you only get to be a college student once.

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Dubsfan7's picture

If you want the best mix

Dubsfan7
      IB
 
(Baboon, 103
 
Points)
 on 3/31/11 at 11:46am

If you want the best mix between a college experience and prestige go with Georgetown. I honestly just can't fathom why anyone would choose NYU unless you really want to give up everything for banking (nothing wrong with this I suppose) and you can't get into the ivies. NYU=No Campus=No Frats=No fun (you don't even necessarily need to be in a frat, but you do need to have frat parties to get to girls, so at least make friends with bros so they'll let you in).

USC will be the most fun, but you won't get much recruiter access.

I think Georgetown is ok for Wall street (but some people say they don't get access on this thread, but on other threads I've read differently), not as good as NYU, but for the reasons stated above, I would not choose NYU.

I should point out that Georgetown also has no frats, but it is more fun, because again it has an actual campus. You can trash crappy off campus houses, but not expensive apartments in the city....

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Mfsl27's picture

I faced the same decision my

Mfsl27
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(Senior Monkey, 96
 
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 on 3/31/11 at 12:00pm

I faced the same decision my senior year of hs between Georgetown, stern, and rutgers (my state school) on full scholarship. Went with rutgers. I'd advise you to do the same. Just work hard and have a fun time at school. You'll love coming out of school with no debt.

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mlamb93's picture

anyone who tells you that you

mlamb93
      IB
 
(Orangutan, 271
 
Points)
 on 3/31/11 at 12:07pm

anyone who tells you that you will be at a disadvantage for recruiting if you attend georgetown doesn't know what they're talking about.

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xyz12345's picture

Absolutely NO WAY is NYU a

xyz12345
     
 
(Baboon, 144
 
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 on 3/31/11 at 12:07pm

Absolutely NO WAY is NYU a better a school than Georgetown. Are you guys serious????

Georgetown places lights out on the street. NYU is a much larger school, and there are more students there who want to get into ibd. When you adjust for size, I'd argue that Gtown is much better for banking.

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econ's picture

Mfsl27 wrote: You'll love

econ
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(Neanderthal, 2,416
 
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 on 3/31/11 at 12:13pm
Mfsl27:

You'll love coming out of school with no debt.

I can second that. I got $50K in debt and everyday I wish I didn't.

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xyz12345's picture

"people get any IBD and a

xyz12345
     
 
(Baboon, 144
 
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 on 3/31/11 at 12:33pm

"people get any IBD and a decent amount of PE/HF jobs out of undergrad here, and almost everybody who puts in the effort of getting acceptable grades and good internships gets FO."

News Flash: You need to face the fact that your school is not that legit.

Numbers don't lie- NYU is not even in the top 5 for placement at my bank (top 3 BB).

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feenans's picture

A stern kid once told me a GS

feenans
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(Senior Orangutan, 487
 
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 on 3/31/11 at 2:28pm

A stern kid once told me a GS recruiter said NYU was #1 or #2 most represented in that class. I was very surprised, anyone with GS analyst class books care to pitch in?

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arden
     
 
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arden wrote: recruiters tell

feenans
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Nysteez's picture

For undergrad, even at

Nysteez
     
 
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 on 4/1/11 at 3:08pm
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brianklk's picture

USC places well With a FULL

brianklk
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 on 4/1/11 at 11:27pm

Born in hell, forged from suffering, hardened by pain.

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Status_Quo's picture

NYU for banking, otherwise

Status_Quo
     
 
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 on 4/2/11 at 9:53pm
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leonardneversleeps's picture

stern for sure man, i dont

leonardneversleeps
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(Senior Monkey, 87
 
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 on 4/3/11 at 4:19pm
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Solidarity's picture

Scholarship is great so

Solidarity
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 on 4/3/11 at 9:02pm
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Thanks everyone for your

baus
     
 
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 on 8/1/11 at 5:09pm
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