Greenhill or Mid-Tier BB?

Everyone,

I was hoping someone could help me out regarding this decision. I am currently looking to lateral from a Mid-Tier BB (not GS-MS-JPM, also not UBS) to a boutique, and Greenhill appears to be my best opportunity at the moment. For one, I wanted to see if anyone didn't think this was an upwards move as far as quality of work / prestige. Secondly, I was wondering if anyone had any insight into how Greenhill has been doing lately as there hasn't been much news out on them in forums. Thanks.

 

Depends on the group. I see mid-tier BBs and greenhill as on the same level although greenhill doesn't have the same exits as some mid BBs. This site plays up GS/MS/BX alot but there are some very good exits from places like CS/BAML/DB/Citi.

For instance, I say this with 100% confidence, there is one group that sent more than a few analysts of the same class to MFs

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I think exits at GHL are comparable to your GS/MS/JPM groups, i.e. top notch. Beyond that, which is more important, they supposedly have a great culture and decent work/life balance. You also get to work in smaller teams and take more responsibilities in a pure large cap M&A advisory role, which is different to working in a BB group. Your choice. I've met a senior MD there who was incredibly down to earth and just seemed like a great guy to learn under.

 
Fancy Clown:

I know what MF means, I'm just confused if he is referring to Mid Tier BB groups or groups such as BX, MS, etc to play up their exit opps.

i was referring to exit ops from mid tier bb

"Look, you're my best friend, so don't take this the wrong way. In twenty years, if you're still livin' here, comin' over to my house to watch the Patriots games, still workin' construction, I'll fuckin' kill you. That's not a threat, that's a fact.
 

I think the OP should go where he feels the best cultural fit. That said, the exits from GHL are meaningfully better than the majority of mid-tier BB groups.

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You will get good deal experience at Greenhill - teams tend to be smaller, you'll get to work closely with some very experienced senior bankers, and you'll get more client exposure vs. a BB. If you get along with the people you meet, go for it.

Aside, I feel like a lot of people have been going on and on about buyside exits recently, trying to compare groups / firms by 'exit potential', and a few posters above are already starting that conversation. Seriously, once you're in a decent group at a decent shop, it's all about the individual.

 

I agree exit opps from GHL are better, but a lot of people think GHL is a declining firm. I've heard Robert Greenhill's presence at the firm is declining and so are the exit opps. And I have seen less GHL people on the team pages of the major PE firms. Also, some of the analysts at the bank I interned at this summer thought that Wells Fargo would at some point acquire the bank. I still would take GHL over any mid BB....but just some things to think about.

 

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