Group Selection J.P. Morgan
I accepted a generalist IBD Summer analyst offer at JPM in NYC. Now I am looking into which group I should go into. I was hoping someone could tell me which groups to look at and which to avoid with the ultimate goal being a PE exit.
From what I've gathered top groups are:
1. HC
2. M&A
3. FSG/TMT (tie)
heard mixed reviews of LevFin (no modeling) and FIG (possibly get pigeontoed)
Any information would be great - thank you in advance.
HC is the best on the street
You are all right. I agree with you
Thanks for your response. Any groups to avoid?
Has anyone heard about FIG or DI
FIG is a top group as well, definitely can't go wrong with that. MF or MM PE is definitely doable based on historical exits
HC is top on the street, but within JPM, M&A is often seen as the top group with the best exit opps.
Thanks for the input - how do the other teams mentioned stack up within JPM?
DIG is a huge group take ~20 SA
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I talked a couple of people in FIG last semester. Definitely a top group with a fair account of modeling. They do all of their stuff in house so no outsourcing to M&A. Culture is good, rarely stayed past 11 and usually get at least one day of the weekend off (according to my former SA friend). Best group for PE is definitely M&A though. HC is very very good, probably the top coverage group. TMT broke up into T and M&T. I'd say they are behind FSG, FIG, and HC for PE placement though.
Summered at JPM last summer and can confirm that although FIG is a solid group, it was one of the least coveted groups due to poor group culture, an oversized team (25 SAs), unmeaningful work (lots of regulatory filings), and the lowest return rate firm wide.
While you were there what did you think about the groups? Where is the best place to be for PE or for longterm: HC, DI, Tech, and Media and Comm.?
What are people's thoughts on opportunities to switch groups/banks after the summer? Say you're at an ms/JPM type place and are a top performer in a mid-tier group - what type of opportunities are there at Evercore/laz/Moelis level boutiques? If you want to rerecruit, when do you typically need to make that decision and start reaching out to friends/contacts at those banks?
Pigeontoed, in addition to getting pigeonholed?!?! I guess just another reason to steer clear of FIG =/
Anyone talk to Tech or Media & Comm? Thoughts on those.
Talked to a guy in TMT (now covering media) over the summer and he said late hours are very common in the group. Be prepared for late nights.
How late are late hours? HC said they worked very late too.
JP is unreal on the telecom side. Definitely top on the street over the last few years. Media side they are definitely good are topped by a couple of other shops. Some new hires may change this.
I am set on M&A. Ranking that #1. Not sure about the others. Probably healthcare and LevFin as backups.
How did you reach out to people in your preferred groups? Through alumni networks or LinkedIn searches? Thanks.
Anyone know the odds of getting your top groups like 1-3? Heard sometimes people get their last option.
JPM Groups (Originally Posted: 02/09/2011)
Hi, I have been enrolled for a spring internship and need to send my choices by the end of the week. Yet, I can not figure out the real activity of some groups.
Here are the different groups proposed :
Advisory (Cons&Retail, TMT, RE, HC, Ind&Transport, Nat Res, Mid East & N Africa, Nordic, Benelux, Uk) Advsory FIG DCM ECM Ratings advisory Lev Fin Financial Sponsors Group Structured Finance and Principal Investments
I would like some feedbacks about the activities and the exit opps of FSG, SFPI and DCM. I am wondering if FSG is model intensive or only coverage, what does exactly SFPI and same about DCM.
Thanks a lot
Last option as in the group you ranked last out of 12+?
I'm a soph so we only get to rank 9.
Also, have people contacted you or are you actively seeking them out?
posted x2
Thanks for this comment What I heard from a senior at JP london was that FSG was very into modelling, and dcm as well. SF&PI is structured finance and not PE.
quite surprising isn t it ?
Agree with OJS on FSG in London. There is only one intern in the office, no analysts, and the rest are senior bankers. Idk if there is modelling involved, but I would guess its a lot of coverage.
Ind & Transport had a quiet good conversion rate last year so you might want to look into that gorup as well.
thx for those interesting feed backs
what about TMT, are the hours more extensive than in other groups ?
this is london right? consumer and TMT are really stong in there (consumer more laid back), industrials is also hard core.
Yep london
JPM groups for summer analyst (Originally Posted: 04/06/2009)
What are your opinions on the following choices for a summer analyst at JPMorgan. What groups are good and which ones should I avoid?
Capital Structure Advisory and Solutions Consumer/Retail DCM Diversified Industries ECM FIG Financial Sponsors Healthcare M&A Natural Resources Real Estate and Lodging Syndicated & Leveraged Finance TMT
Anyone else having trouble connecting with groups? I've had calls scheduled with several people in my top choices and they keep falling through.
Depends on where your interests lie...
No love for Latin America Advisory.
obviously avoid LEV FIN and Cap Structure Advisory
look into M&A, FIG, Diversified
I hear their FIG group is great. plus it's really active right now
Good:
Avoid:
The others can be good too, I'm just trying to cover the best / worst.
yo, where's the latam love?
look into the groups and if you fit in, especially in such a crazy time where a select few will get offers. when you're comparing between two kids who both did an excellent job but one had marginally better relationships, you'll take the one that did marginally better.. maximize your chances
Are alumni connections a factor?
ya...I left out Latin American Advisory because I figured knowing Spanish would probably be important but I could be wrong. FIG, M&A and Healthcare are all ones I am considering among others. What turns me off of FIG though is that I've heard the skills you learn there very specific to FIG. Can anyone back me up on that? Financial Sponsors interests me too but would now be a bad time for that? Thanks for the input
i've heard that several times from people who considered FIG.. FIG people claim that if they can value something w/ no pre-financing CF (a financial), they can value anything
is the recommendation for healthcare specific to jpm? or is healthcare just a busy group in most banks?
If you don't speak spanish LatAm isn't a choice. Yes, valuation skills in FIG are largely proprietary. And yes, the sponsors space is pretty much dead. Some sponsors have portfolio companies that are distressed and may be looking to do something, but any refinancing it happens mostly with the capital markets guys as they are generally debt for debt deals.
unless you speak portuguese.. they were getting significant dealflow in Brazil
What are your all's thoughts on RE? Are they busy, if you join it are you setting yourself up fir only RE exit ops?
For oil & gas, JPM is top five in Houston.
quick question: do most banks have ecm, dcm in their banking groups or capital markets groups?
I heard that M&A is slowly getting phased from product to the various coverage groups -- so that the coverage teams will be doing it in-house. Does anyone know about this?
I know there are a couple groups that do M&A in-house. Namely TMT and FIG.
I heard from people working at the firm that they are scaling this back. I've heard this from a couple analysts working in NYC and regionals. Then again, it could be just an analyst rumor floating around.
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You definitely don't want to get pigeontoed in FIG at JP.
Best Desks at JPM (Originally Posted: 03/22/2016)
Hi,
I am trying to narrow down which desk to work at. Any insight into which desks JPM is the best at would be appreciated.
This one:
Buffett sat at it AND it belonged to JP Morgan himself. You can't go wrong.
source:
Does JP have a nat res group?
JP Morgan Group Assignments (Originally Posted: 04/30/2007)
Has anyone heard yet? They said today right?
They have an energy group
This is rediculous... no?
i didnt get any official emails from HR, just an email from someone i had talked to before in the group... has anyone gotten something more "official"?
They said they were waiting to tell us all at the same time. there a fucking week late.
are you waiting on SA group assignment or FT? i heard couple weeks back....
SA
OK so now its been a few more days and still nothing. Has any other summers at jpm nyc heard anything?
Question to everyone:
would it be appropriate to email HR and just ask?
Do I have to worry about annoying HR?
Thoughts on Tech vs. M&C?
Good groups at JPM (Originally Posted: 04/28/2011)
What do you guys think are good groups at JPM?
Let me know and i'll tell you how right you are.
by the way, jpm LevFin is utter crap and doesn't model, this board is really dumb.
M&A is tops, no questions asked. Healthcare is also a top group, great experience for analysts, and a good culture. FSG is also good, does a lot of the sponsors debt modeling work that you alluded too. Nat Res down in Houston is a top group, just as good as Barc/CS.
We got your t-shirt, ya did left fingerprints and all, you are so dumb. You are really dumb, for real.
So you can run and tell that, homeboy
um, and what makes you think we care about your assessment of JPM groups? Thanks for putting yourself on a pedestal by proclaiming "i'll tell you how right you are".
Noone cares about what you think. Stop wasting our time and piss the fuck off.
sounds like someone got an SA offer and is trying to figure out which group to gun for
SA? hah.....i'm king kong of the analysts bro
king kong of the analysts....wow, what an honor.
regards,
100m gold medalist 2004 special olympics
How does return offer rate vary by group?
JP. Morgan Division (Originally Posted: 01/12/2018)
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