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hate being at a non target
 

legitpro's picture
(Monkey, 55
 
Points)
 on 2/28/13 at 12:00pm
non target hate.jpg

-poor recruiting
-have to explain my choice of uni in interviews
-relying on grad school to help rebrand myself
-morons at my school think because i worked at GM in the summer I was assembling cars.........really. i was an analyst for one of the depts

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BankorBust's picture

should have transferred bro

 
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 on 2/23/13 at 12:09am

should have transferred bro

stc's picture

Its not a big deal. Why do

 
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 on 2/23/13 at 1:20am

Its not a big deal. Why do you care what your friends think? My good friends have no idea what I am going in to. Yea it absolutely sucks for recruiting but if you want to do banking then you make it work. If you don't get it on the first time then you graduate and network. Stop worrying about anyone else but yourself. If you know what you wanna do then go for it.

streetwannabe's picture

Non-target is absolutely

(King Kong, 1,316
 
Points)
 on 2/23/13 at 1:34am

Non-target is absolutely terrible. Not sure what is below non-target besides CC, but trust me, my school is borderline. Kids at my school (in finance major may I remind you) think that if you work at Morgan Stanley or Goldman Sachs that you automatically work in IBD.

However, is the point of this thread to commiserate? Or what?

"History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme."

ytinifni's picture

At my school (Canada), 95% of

 
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 on 2/23/13 at 2:40am

At my school (Canada), 95% of the kids in finance (there's a couple hundred) don't actually know what investment banking is. Do I give a shit? No. Did I get an internship at one of the Canadian banks for this summer? Yes.

"Pessimism is your friend, euphoria is the enemy."

legitpro's picture

BankorBust: should have

(Monkey, 55
 
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 on 2/23/13 at 12:18pm
BankorBust:

should have transferred bro

i feel like this everyday, already in my 3rd yr

above_and_beyond's picture

Hang in there buddy. It's

IB
 
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 on 2/23/13 at 12:39pm

Hang in there buddy. It's hard to get into banking coming from a non target, but it is far from impossible.

Just try to get a near perfect GPA and do as many internships as possible. The amount and quality of internships was the dealbreaker for me. I did nearly twice as much internships as all the other students I know, but ultimately it was worth the hustle.

Coming from a non target, it is hard to get a decent first internship, hence you have to "work yourself up". I started at a regional office of a tier 2 bank in corporate banking for my first internship, then did Big4 Audit, Big4 M&A, boutique M&A and ultimately landed a gig at an elite boutique in M&A. Since a few months, I'm an analyst at this particular elite boutique and landed offers from a few BBs as well.

In the first week on the job, it is kind of awkward when someone in the office asks you where you went to college and you're from an absolute non target while everyone else went to top institutions , but after that, the non-target stigma disappears and your performance counts.

Good luck.

jktecon's picture

Great; kill yourself then?

O
(Gorilla, 531
 
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 on 2/23/13 at 3:27pm

Great; kill yourself then? Like seriously what the hell are you doing. I'm not going to divulge my background but I came from a "nontarget" and have done decently.

And for all future and current nontargets, please note the paradox of nontargetry: The reason your school is a nontarget is because students (such as the OP) are too busy complaining about how nontarget their university is rather than preparing for their future. Employers hire students from everywhere. They rehire predominantly from where there previous efforts have been successful.

Are you willing to work hard enough to make your University a target in the future? Or will you still be complaining about how nontarget it was?

TLDR: STFU and do it yourself

FranciscoDAnconia's picture

Should've worked harder in HS

(Baboon, 133
 
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 on 2/23/13 at 5:25pm

Should've worked harder in HS then. Now stop being a bitch and put in double the amount of effort to break in.

triplectz's picture

You sound insecure. Being at

IB
(Gorilla, 550
 
Points)
 on 2/23/13 at 9:05pm

You sound insecure. Being at a target wouldn't solve that.

CountryUnderdog's picture

You think you hate it now.

IB
(Gorilla, 563
 
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 on 2/23/13 at 9:40pm

You think you hate it now. Just wait till you get out in the real world / b-school and you're surrounded by Harvard degrees who look down upon you like you're white trash. It sucks.

"They are all former investment bankers that were laid off in the economic collapse that Nancy Pelosi caused. They have no marketable skills, but by God they work hard."

smallmoneygrower's picture

hey Im a junior at eastern

 
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 on 2/23/13 at 9:26pm

hey Im a junior at eastern Michigan University and I know Im going to be under scrutinization in every interview but while Im in school I think the best credentials would be to form a corporate entity manage the funds and have those records for every interview. In this position your skills are more evident and open to less debate

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FranciscoDAnconia: Should've

 
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 on 2/23/13 at 9:34pm
FranciscoDAnconia:

Should've worked harder in HS then. Now stop being a bitch and put in double the amount of effort to break in.

Thats basically what I meant without the homoerotic tone of a frustrated and legally restricted Penn State coach like this guy yea I went there. This guy is rude and harsh like being at a b school surrounded by future drew carey middle management obsessed with keggers isnt hard enough. Chin up kiddo :)

triplectz's picture

smallmoneygrower: Francisco

IB
(Gorilla, 550
 
Points)
 on 2/23/13 at 9:45pm
smallmoneygrower:
FranciscoDAnconia:

Should've worked harder in HS then. Now stop being a bitch and put in double the amount of effort to break in.

Thats basically what I meant without the homoerotic tone of a frustrated and legally restricted Penn State coach like this guy yea I went there. This guy is rude and harsh like being at a b school surrounded by future drew carey middle management obsessed with keggers isnt hard enough. Chin up kiddo :)

What?

smallmoneygrower's picture

being at a standard b school

 
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 on 2/23/13 at 9:52pm

being at a standard b school where the focus is not upper management is hard. The majority of the student body is not focused on portfolio analysis and most of the classes are broad in topic with no specfic focus in an area required for out of college work. I found that even calculus is really not helpful when it comes to the analyzation of a companies stock performance hell most of the quadratics and parabola formulas have no real life applications. If you combine that with the fact that the student body will realize the closer you get to graduation that your are going to school to learn how to rule over them you might run into some weird social interactions every time people find out that what I study affects every thing from grocery prices to pension funds they either kiss my ass or hate me or both. Hell people dont even use the term stockbroker anymore because it has negative connotations. And in these days every aspect of life requires a degree so imagine if you can interecting with future blue collar wall street proteseters every day.

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triplectz: smallmoneygrower

 
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 on 2/23/13 at 9:55pm
triplectz:
smallmoneygrower:
FranciscoDAnconia:

Should've worked harder in HS then. Now stop being a bitch and put in double the amount of effort to break in.

Thats basically what I meant without the homoerotic tone of a frustrated and legally restricted Penn State coach like this guy yea I went there. This guy is rude and harsh like being at a b school surrounded by future drew carey middle management obsessed with keggers isnt hard enough. Chin up kiddo :)

What?

smallmoneygrower:

being at a standard b school where the focus is not upper management is hard. The majority of the student body is not focused on portfolio analysis and most of the classes are broad in topic with no specfic focus in an area required for out of college work. I found that even calculus is really not helpful when it comes to the analyzation of a companies stock performance hell most of the quadratics and parabola formulas have no real life applications. If you combine that with the fact that the student body will realize the closer you get to graduation that your are going to school to learn how to rule over them you might run into some weird social interactions every time people find out that what I study affects every thing from grocery prices to pension funds they either kiss my ass or hate me or both. Hell people dont even use the term stockbroker anymore because it has negative connotations. And in these days every aspect of life requires a degree so imagine if you can interecting with future blue collar wall street proteseters every day.

EtherBinge's picture

I have a friend who just

HF
(Orangutan, 306
 
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 on 2/23/13 at 10:39pm
smallmoneygrower's picture

EtherBinge: I have a friend

 
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 on 2/23/13 at 10:50pm
lasampdoria's picture

Sucks

CF
(King Kong, 1,429
 
Points)
 on 2/23/13 at 11:26pm

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."- Benjamin Franklin

WellsNotice's picture

I'm from a non-target and

CF
(Baboon, 112
 
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 on 2/24/13 at 12:05pm
BTbanker's picture

For the non targets who've

IB
 
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 on 2/24/13 at 12:07pm

"A man generally has two reasons for doing anything. One that sounds good, and the real one." - J.P. Morgan

ozymandias's picture

Network. There must be

CD
 
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 on 2/24/13 at 12:26pm

"It doesn't matter where you are or where you came from: it's about where you're going."

BepBep12's picture

We've [non-targets]

CF
 
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 on 2/24/13 at 12:37pm

'Before you enter... be willing to pay the price'

MindOverMonkey's picture

EtherBinge: I have a friend

IB
(Baboon, 150
 
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 on 2/24/13 at 12:42pm
nontargetPSD92's picture

listen, it sucks. But stop

IB
(Baboon, 156
 
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 on 2/24/13 at 12:43pm

“Success means having the courage, the determination, and the will to become the person you believe you were meant to be”

LHDan's picture

You need to do a 180 on your

IB
 
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 on 2/24/13 at 12:48pm
IlliniProgrammer's picture

1.) Study engineering.

ST
(Almost Human, 9,173
 
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 on 2/24/13 at 1:33pm

Work hard, play hard.

ozymandias's picture

ozymandias: Network. There

CD
 
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 on 2/24/13 at 1:37pm

"It doesn't matter where you are or where you came from: it's about where you're going."

smallmoneygrower's picture

hey no lie I have a friend

 
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 on 2/24/13 at 1:50pm
Cries's picture

legitpro: -poor

IB
 
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 on 2/24/13 at 1:53pm
lasampdoria's picture

(No subject)

CF
(King Kong, 1,429
 
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 on 2/24/13 at 2:43pm

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."- Benjamin Franklin

JDawg's picture

I did my undergrad at a

(Gorilla, 516
 
Points)
 on 2/24/13 at 2:43pm
coleslaw's picture

Im in the same boat, was lazy

AM
(Chimp, 12
 
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 on 2/24/13 at 2:45pm

"Those who dare to fail miserably can achieve greatly"

smallmoneygrower's picture

smallmoneygrower: hey no lie

 
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 on 2/24/13 at 2:54pm
HostileTakeOver's picture

legitpro: -poor

O
(Chimp, 10
 
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 on 2/24/13 at 3:02pm
IlliniProgrammer's picture

^^^ Why not just borrow money

ST
(Almost Human, 9,173
 
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 on 2/24/13 at 3:03pm

Work hard, play hard.

smallmoneygrower's picture

IlliniProgrammer: ^^^ Why not

 
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 on 2/24/13 at 3:10pm
D M's picture

WellsNotice: I'm from a

O
 
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 on 2/24/13 at 3:25pm

"WSO is like the 300 for anti spamage. None shall pass." -happypantsmcgee
"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer

imnotamonkey's picture

TL;DR play the cards you're

(Chimp, 13
 
Points)
 on 2/24/13 at 3:25pm
BepBep12's picture

ozymandias: ozymandias: Net

CF
 
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 on 2/24/13 at 3:40pm

'Before you enter... be willing to pay the price'

Armada90's picture

I went to a non target

(Chimp, 14
 
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 on 2/24/13 at 3:47pm
Tupac's picture

if you cant hustle you

(Orangutan, 369
 
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 on 2/24/13 at 4:17pm
ozymandias's picture

Armada90: I went to a non

CD
 
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 on 2/24/13 at 4:24pm

"It doesn't matter where you are or where you came from: it's about where you're going."

Thurnis Haley's picture

Stop crying. It's not gonna

(Orangutan, 367
 
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 on 2/24/13 at 4:40pm
gvc1992's picture

I go to a CSU and I tried to

(Monkey, 51
 
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 on 2/24/13 at 5:04pm

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gvc1992's picture

and what did u write in ur

(Monkey, 51
 
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 on 2/24/13 at 5:06pm

G

gvc1992's picture

finally read all the success

(Monkey, 51
 
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 on 2/24/13 at 5:06pm

G

Thurnis Haley's picture

Is this thread real?? I mean

(Orangutan, 367
 
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 on 2/24/13 at 5:14pm
smallmoneygrower's picture

Tupac: if you cant hustle you

 
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 on 2/24/13 at 5:21pm
ricky212's picture

I'll be going to a bb S&T SA

ST
(Orangutan, 356
 
Points)
 on 2/24/13 at 5:39pm

Because when you're in a room full of smart people, smart suddenly doesn't matter—interesting is what matters.

rpc's picture

Non-target obviously makes it

ST
(Orangutan, 325
 
Points)
 on 2/24/13 at 6:32pm

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