HELP! I don't want to go out with my boss after work

My boss likes to take some of the junior people out for drinks or dinner/drinks after work sometimes with just him and a vp or director or sometimes when a client comes to town. This summer has been crazy and I am so tired of going out and getting drunk with him, but he's my boss so how do I say no without making myself seem like im not part of the team?

Last time we were out until about 5am and everyone showed up the next day on time like everythign was normal. I tried to excuse myself at 8pm but my boss was like wtf?

And just to make things clear, I am a girl. My boss has never hit on me or anything like that, but I just dont want to go out with him and "the guys" late into the night. I would rather hit the gym or see my friends.

Any people here have any tips on how to get out of things like this without pissing the party animal boss off?

 
swagon:
zbb:
grape drink

I want some of that purple stuff...the ingredients are sugar, water, and, of course, purple

I believe the proper pronunciation is, "Drank".

This reminds me of a story. When I was first starting out, the number 2 guy in the firm flew out to meet with my boss. This guy was a player, big time. And he had more money than God. So he decides to take the whole office out for drinks. The first couple hours are pretty mellow, and one by one people start dropping off and going home.

My boss was kind of a light weight, but he decided to hang in there for some reason. The number 2 guy (I'll call him Billy) decided he wanted to run one into my secretary. So a whole crowd of us head to a strip club (including her, she was a cool chick) and start throwing around money and making a general ass of ourselves. Billy is gaming my secretary hard, and I'm cock blocking for all I'm worth (because the fact is I wanted to nail her, too).

This goes on well into the night. About a dozen of us, including my boss and my secretary, hang in there until about two hours before the opening bell. I successfully block Billy from hitting pay dirt with my secretary, and then I go home to catch about an hour's sleep before getting back to the office.

Only thing is, I can't do it. I woke up late feeling like a hundred pounds of shit stuffed into a 50-pound bag, and I ended up rolling into the office about 20 minutes late. Billy is standing there at the office door starched, pressed, looking sharp, and extremely pissed off. He takes one look at me in the clothes I slept in and says, "You need to learn when to come in from out of the rain, sport."

I felt like total shit. I get inside the office and see that I'm the only one of the party crew to even make it in that morning, albeit 20 minutes late and looking like shit. My boss didn't even show up. No call, no show. He drags his ass in about 5 hours later, and Billy is livid. Not a great day at the office, I assure you.

Moral of the story: work on your tolerance. I had the tolerance of a bull rhino and this guy still drank circles around me. If you're gonna play the game, make a commitment to be the best.

 

Go out and rage with the creatures of the night. Every time you go out with higher ups, you make it a point to stay and be the last man standing regardless of the levels of intoxication. Not to be a badass, but to show a little commitment to the cause.

There are two types of people in the office: Those who are unaffected by the hangover and those that are utter wrecks of life the next day. I am not fortunate enough to be in the first category but happen to be good at disguising it (getting in before everyone else even though the little red and green numbers on the ICE screen are a blur).

Or you could take the Barry Bonds/McGuire/Conseco route and take performance enhancing drugs. Ala adderall.

-Guy feeling like he got ganged by a heard of buffalos

 
cfaboston28:
How about when you have a wife/children? Will you still go out every night?

By the time you have a wife and kids, I would hope that you were high enough on the totem pole. I feel its more important at an earlier age when you're lower on the totem pole to show that you can work hard and party harder. Regardless, I would still spare 1 night of the week to party w/ my coworkers. It wouldn't be as frequent, but still done.

During my internship last summer, I went out many times w/ my coworkers...staying out late until 4-5 in the morning, sleeping at random people's places and still managed to make it to work the same time as the days that I didn't go out. The days I stayed out really late, I didn't shower in the morning, but I did wear a fresh pair of clothes and my boss was very impressed that I was at work early and working. Other SA's rolled in late or in the clothes from the night before or a combination. They're bosses weren't too happy about that.

Holding your alcohol plays a role in finance.

 

To the OP: How about we trade spots. You can be a senior in college, 9 months away from graduation scrambling for a job in a shitty economy, and I'll be the banker that goes out and gets free drinks and parties in NYC with the boss and clients.

I don't care if you're a girl. Man the fuck up

 
schifm08:
To the OP: How about we trade spots. You can be a senior in college, 9 months away from graduation scrambling for a job in a shitty economy, and I'll be the banker that goes out and gets free drinks and parties in NYC with the boss and clients.

I don't care if you're a girl. Man the fuck up

I gotta agree with this, though the tone is a bit harsh.

 
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Wow! You people are absolutely ridiculous.

To the OP, it seems like it is the reality of the industry. You are in a male dominated job, so you will always be “out with the guys” (clients, coworkers, etc) until late and still have to show up and be responsible the next day. It is about building relationships and getting your name out there. I doubt anyone is trying to get laid and/or sued; It is just the nature of the industry. I am sure you would feel a lot different about it if they were girls, but they are not and the majority of your coworkers never will be. So every time you go out with clients, build relationships, etc., it will be with the guys.

Try to keep in mind, meeting clients and drinking with mgt opens the opportunity to advance your career.

That said, I have a series of dinners and long days coming up, and I am not looking forward to staying out all night and coming in early the next day. However, I am looking forward to the people I will meet and what I will learn from the experience.

BTW, I really could care less that it is free. I would rather buy my own alcohol and see my friends/girlfriend--much like the OP. But the reality is that the late nights are part of my job, so that is like saying I would rather be hanging out with friends right now rather than working. Can you really argue with that?

 

Thanks everyone. I'm a little burnt out with the constant going out, but what are some tricks to keep the tolerance up? What kind of drinks should I stay away from etc? ever since I started training for the marathon, my tolerance has gone way down

The other analysts and associates are like brothers to me. Some clients can be lazy incompetent entitled jerks though.

 
Phoenix09:
Thanks everyone. I'm a little burnt out with the constant going out, but what are some tricks to keep the tolerance up? What kind of drinks should I stay away from etc? ever since I started training for the marathon, my tolerance has gone way down

The other analysts and associates are like brothers to me. Some clients can be lazy incompetent entitled jerks though.

I'd go for Jagerbombs - if you have enough you should be able to run home from the bar thus helping you train for your marathon - win/win

 

First and foremost, if your training for a marathon, I would highly advise you follow the "Clear Drink Rule". It's exactly what it soudnds like. Stick with clear drinks and you will survive without drinking as hard as everyone else thinks you are. When I used to go out with the really heavy drinkers, my boss' boss and some of the bigger guys on my floor, I would avoid my usual prefered drinks of whiskey and beer and enjoy Gin and Tonics all night. I'm not saying I didn't drink, but by ordering a G&T, I was able to have one and follow it up with a glass or two of water served w/ the same garnish (a slice of lime) and no one would notice. You also need to make sure you're ordering your own drinks at the bar as to not have people realize you're drinking water. If people are buying shots, make sure you're drinking the same liquor that your drink base is, in order to not mix anything. Mixing certain alcohols, particularly Gin and Whiskey, can be a bad thing. And if your not a fan of Gin, then go with Vodka.

 

Love the ridiculous comments in this thread, all the guys acting all tough - to make it even worse half of you probably collapse after 5 vodka red bulls.

To the OP, as long as you don't make a habit of not going for drinks, there is no issue in saying that you are tired and want to go home. But it's during drinks with colleagues that you create bonds with your team (no, not only THOSE kind of bonds)

 

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