London to New York
I am a current junior from an ivy who will be interning at a top EB in London next summer. I'm an international student and while I applied to places in New York as well, it was quite frankly much harder than I thought to land something as an international. I have the stem extension completely untouched and also hold Canadian citizenship if that matters.
While I'm quite happy with the posting I got in London, if I were to try to get a full time job in New York, what would be my best strategy? If I manage to be the "top intern" in London, what would happen if I were to ask to transfer to New York?
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Transferring from London to NYC - S&T (Originally Posted: 05/23/2013)
Hi everyone
I was wondering the other day if I ever make it to the S&T division of a BB, how's the chance I get transferred to the US (preferably to NYC), without having a green card and stuff? Is it done through some sponsorship anyway?
Thanks!
interested as well
i asked this question many times when i was recruiting and always got a bs answer
all BBs sponsor visas for international workers.
They usually offer 1-yr team swaps or even permanent relocation after a few years. Not a big deal, it's just up to you to network your way in a group
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-1_visa
as far as i know, you can usually go on a rotation in your 3rd analyst year or your 3rd associate year. I think the latter is not really the norm.
Focus on getting a job in London first, then in a few years see if you can go to NY...
thanks guys
Moving from London to NYC at BB S&T? (Originally Posted: 05/03/2017)
I'm a current S&T analyst at an American BB in London. I'm not a US citizen but want to move to work in NYC. What is the best way to go about doing this? Should i just indicate some interest to my MD or is there a formal process for doing this?
Depends on how long you've been in London and what the NYC office needs are. The process can be instant, or take months on end as you play it by ear. Most banks don't let you transfer offices if you haven't been with them for 18 months or more. I'd try to get to the US quickly if you plan on staying long-term for eventual citizenship. Some key Visa programs and the green-card lottery are at risk of being shut down.
HF Move London --> New York (Originally Posted: 11/09/2015)
Gents, has anyone moved from London to NYC between hedge funds? Advice, experience etc much appreciated. Working at a HF in Ldn, but given size / depth of US HF space intrigued to move at some point.
I would assume it highly depends on the size of the fund. I have seen New York to London quite a few times, but have seen the reverse only a couple of times. Usually London to New York in either PE or HF involved either an MBA, or people going to New York before jumping to the buyside (less relevant here).
Have come across few shops in NYC that require an MBA (eg Third Point). Anyone who has done the move please let me know.
investment banking from London to NYC (Originally Posted: 10/15/2017)
working as an analyst for a top IB in London, is it feasible to change location from to NY after a few years in the job? thank you
Hi johndoe35678, no, I never sleep and so I can respond to any lonely threads (like this one) at all hours of the night. Impressive, I know ;-)
More suggestions...
Fingers crossed that one of those helps you.
Quit an awesome job in London to make it in New York (Originally Posted: 12/04/2011)
Hi all,
This doesn't sound like much of a 'situation' but it is. Here's where I'm at:
I've got a great job lined up on an Asset Management grad scheme, due to start in September. Worked my ass off to get it and I'm pretty lucky to have it.
But... it will mean staying in London. My life ambition all the way through uni was to get the hell out of the UK as soon as I graduate. Now I've graduated and I'm still here... tied down by the promise of this job.
I don't think I can be happy living in London. Call it a complex or whatever, but it just isn't the place for me. I want to get out to the US, ideally New York.
How bad are things in the US? Are there jobs? (I'm not a oxbridge / lse grad, far from it)
Am I an idiot to turn down this opportunity and try to make it in America? (first step being acquiring a Visa... no easy feat!) In an unusual display of emotion from a would-be financier, my heart is pulling me that way.
You...are...crazy.
Don't bother, at least finish the grad scheme, get some experience and then move over later? What is the firm, are we talking shroders/threadneedle level?
Yes, you're an idiot. Keep the job, get some experience. Important thing is keep looking and build contacts.
As an Oxbridge grad who eventually went back to NYC...
Stay in London for now, finish your graduate programme, and then come over. The AM job market in NYC is rough right now, even if you were from Oxbridge / LSE.
It's funny. It doesn't matter where you are the world, you still want to be somewhere else. The grass isn't always greener. The fact that you want to leave the coolest and most happening place in the world and let's face it, the centre of the universe, makes me wonder
When did London become the center of the universe?
I moved to NYC with no job, I made it. But then again I never had to worry about money....
You are an idiot for
1) wanting to move to NY when you don't have a job that is waiting for you in NY
In order for you to get a work visa, you will need to have a job already. If you come without a work visa, you will need to find a job once you get there and have the employer sponsor you. The employer might not want to sponsor you and it will take you month to get any sort of work permit.
2) stay where you are and get the experience
3) Save money, network, than lateral in the US
Irrelevant question,but Mike S,are u British?
IBD London to PE NYC? (Originally Posted: 06/16/2012)
Title explains it. Is it possible to jump office locations significantly if you break into PE from IB? I am a US citizen but, will be starting to work in the UK.
Any insights are appreciated.
if you're doing LevFin, fin. sponsors or something within the lines of these- life would be easier. but generally- i cant see any reason why you cant. my 2cs.
I guess I will just have to wait and deal with recruiters as they come then... London is great but, definitely want to head back to NYC at some point.
London to NYC? (Originally Posted: 08/04/2008)
Given today's market, I'm considering looking at BB S&T positions in London, but wanted to know if it was even possible to move back to NY, and if so, approximately how long I would have to work there. I've grown up in NY and really don't want to leave, but I guess I can sacrifice a couple of years if I can come back and get in.
Has anybody done this or know someone who has done this?
Any help is appreciated.
Haha, get a job in London and then we will talk....
Remember, you will always be a salesman, no matter how fancy your title is. - My ex girlfriend
Is it as difficult to recruit for London as it is for NY?
It's at least as rigorous a process. Top students from top schools, fall on-campus recruitment frenzies, tons of interviews, the usual. However in London there are usually fewer places available, competition is against applicants from around the world due to London having much more favorable Visa laws than the US, and if you speak nothing but English (+broken spanish) you are already at a disadvantage.
I don't know what your conversion rates are for NYC, but the average for london is at least 150-200 applications per place, sometimes up to 1,000 (based on speaking to Merrill and Goldman HR staff). There is nothing wrong with applying to London teams as well, but you are sadly mistaken if you think it is an easy way into banking!
Languages could be a sticking point as well, because no matter how good your French is you will be competing against native French speakers who have perfect English.
Let's take a look at my analyst class shall we? Oxford, LSE, HEC (top business school in France), Polytechnic (top engineering school in Europe, and in my opinion the world), European business school (the German one). A couple of ex olympic athletes. A few ivy kids from the US, but they will all go work in Taiwan or Japan; NOT a single American actually will be working in London.
In London the competition is ridiculous, unless you networked your ass off at school to get some interviews... good luck...
So again, get a job in London first. To answer your concern OP, moving from London to NY should not be hard internally if you are a good employee. But why anybody would ever consider such a move is beyond my mind. Unless you are called to be some CEO or something I just would never ever consider it.
Remember, you will always be a salesman, no matter how fancy your title is. - My ex girlfriend
London to NYC (Originally Posted: 10/26/2009)
Obviously as the subject suggests I am looking for any advice in how to make the move from London to NYC. Work in a top M&A group here in London but the fact of it is transfers only really happen after 2 years and I am just finishing up my first year. What are peoples thoughts on this? Stick it out for another year and see if I can transfer or maybe see if its possible to get a lateral job in NYC?
The market's picking up so laterals will start getting easier though I think you should still stick it out in London. I can't really speak from experience but I think you should wait for another 9 months then begin to indicate that you are interested in moving to NY. I mean the option to lateral will still be there in 9 months.
If you're happy at your current bank and are doing fine then just stick it out another 6months then start asking - usually it's after 2yrs at any place but it isn't set in stone - with the market hotting up it's possible your bank is or will be hiring in NY for which an inside candidate would be preferred for a whole host of reasons (assuming you aren't fussy about what group you go into since odds are it wouldn't be the same one). Another serious upside is that if you move with your firm they'll cover all your costs and the hassles of moving + pay for you when you get there (for a month usually while you find a place to move), many companies even give you an extra month's salary in moving expenses.
London to New York PWM (Originally Posted: 08/26/2010)
I've been working in PWM for a boutique in London for 4 years now since leaving college but I'm looking to move to New York. I've built up a decent book of clients that won't be transferrable but my college was in London as well, so frankly I'm bored of the city.
Just looking for some advice:
-do employers look for a CFA/MBA in PWM? -salary estimates? I've 4 years experience of bringing on clients in London but will be starting from scratch again. -Barclays Wealth are expanding rapidly-what's their reputation? -apply directly or via recruitment agent?
Has anyone made a similar transfer?
Thanks for any advice.
Would help if we knew the name of the boutique, or at least the figure for Assets under Management..
I don't think your prospects look great for making the switch to NYC to be honest. Are you CFA qualified? Maybe consider the MBA.
London->NY MF PE (Originally Posted: 06/12/2014)
Hi guys, i am about to finish my 1st year in PE (straight out of university) at an american LBO fund in London (yeh, not that many in London) and am contemplating to move to NY for associate position in a year or so. Of course, my fund has an office there but it would be great to have alternatives. can anyone give me some advice on how to make the move to the US from Europe? thanks a lot for any advice on what to start looking at / with whom to talk etc. any HH specialized in those kind of moves? any advice concerning visas and stuff? thanks
would talk to the HHs
usual suspects for PE include CPI, McKibben, Amity, SG, HSP - that should be enough to get you started
good luck man
thanks a lot. remember talking to amity, SG and CPI already last time, will see if they will be able to come up with something.. tx
Recruit from London to New York (Originally Posted: 11/02/2017)
Does anyone have a view on that?? Especially on how realistic it looks if Visa is required.........
If you're at a top bank/group in London, then I think you've got a shot. Hiring someone qualified for an associate level role, almost any firm will sponsor so Visa won't be a problem and if you're working in a City IB role, I assume you speak fluent English, etc. The distance, networking stuff will be a barrier, but with modern technology, it can be overcome.
Can also try a transfer to NYC office of the bank if it's possible. Lot of banks have solid mobility if you're a top performer and have group flexibility to fill a gap on a team in NY with an unexpected opening.
Thanks!
Internal transfer is a valid option, however requires staying on.
Has anyone gone through the process of recruiting directly? How would one approach that?
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