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ranney95
     
 
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 on 1/5/13 at 8:29am
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I would like to share with you WSOers my story. If 'nothing else, at least it will be a good summary for me.

I have not really achieved anything big yet but I feel I'm on the good path and decided to write my mind/story/thought out. In a nutshell the story is about me starting trading at the age of 14, what I experienced, getting into being passionate about economics, trading, it's becoming my only one real interest which I would love to spend time with.

My first memory goes back to when I was around 12-13 years old, my family (definitely not a middle class, but definitely not an upper class either) would save money on a lot of things and always said to me that there are things what are necessary to buy, and there are things what are not necessary (they always say this). When it comes to something which is not important, cheap will do they believe. They were right as they will be able to cover my tuition fees now but I really didn't understand back then and that frustrated me.

I would see my not necessarily richer classmates with much better stuff back then. Again I can not recall exactly, except a few, for example when I invited over my friends and ordered 3-4 pizza and my parents were so angry at me I won't forget. Another time at a school trip one of my friends asked me why did I bring that small amount of money, it wasn't a too good experience either. My parents would rarely give me money to buy from the snack bar in the school, meanwhile others often did. Certainly, looking back it wasn't anything serious and now I can't even imagine why did these things hit me that hard, but for me back then it seemed it just did.
So I had this feeling all through elementary school - I just desired so much the cool Christmas gifts they get, the money they got to bring to school trips, the cool toys and stuff. It was funny because families with much more poor conditions in the class had "better stuff" once again.

As far as I am concerned, it was these number of happenings which set me on the path on to make money. I had no hope that my parents would buy the most expensive LEGO for Christmas so I felt I got to do something in order to do that.

Around 13, I started looking for ways to make money. First off I would work for my grandmother/father, cutting the grass, digging, etc. anything but that really didn't work out as I earned very little. Somehow I ended up with referral programs but it really did not work out either. I can remember having a Google Adsense account and trying to figure out what type of webpage should I make to generate a lot of visitors - with the help of free-of-charge hosting companies I didn't have to pay a dime. Then I got the idea of designing webpages for a fee, started looking at how HTML works, Photoshop, but after a few months I gave it up just I did with referral programs. I don't remember why but perhaps because It was too hard to learn especially the programming part.

I had no idea how to go on. These times I was quite occupied with playing Call Of Duty 2-4, like 3-4 hours a day, leading my clan, playing so called "wars" (clans against clans), wanted to make a living out of playing (like professional gaming). For quite a few years I was still doing the same with less hours, but with time I lost the interest and was just bored by it. Then, somehow I heard about stocks trading and my father happened to know the basics as our family owned a few stocks. One night (I was about to turn 14) he was telling me about trading that I could try it out, and it really did get my attention (I can remember playing Far Cry that night, before we started our first discussion with my father about stocks). I felt so cool thinking I will be a broker, he also gave me a book he had on stocks trading. He advised not to go with high risks, and told me leverage is a BAD thing and I should never use it. Also he told me numerous times when I got my first losses that I should hold my positions till they come back to profit, and also advised me not to use stoploss. These were the advices I can clearly remember being told and being broken after a few months of trading I realized he may be wrong.

I have read the book like three times and then started researching on the internet. Under two months I got to know "a lot" about trading, and I told my father I want to start trading with my money. We went into the local office of one of the bank (it didn't even specialize in trading, fees were very high looking backwards) in our town, opened an account under his name and I started trading with all my saved money (around 300 dollars).

I bought a few stocks (it was in the beginning of 2009, hell yeah) and eventually from the moment I bought them they started falling, it took around 3 months till they would recover and I would be able to get out my positions with zero loss. I was eagerly watching and reading the news each day, interacting in forums firstly only in my home language, and then came english came too. There was a day when I would go home in the breaks (we happened to live very near the school) as there was a new energy company IPO to the exchange. A few days later I closed out with a 20% profit, I can remember I was very-very happy, there was my first big winnings and I was so proud of myself that I "had to go home because I had to deal with business".

In some cases I would follow the markets in the breaks at the library where this one single computer was with extremely bad internet connection. I can remember explaining one of my classmates what I was doing, and later that day he would say joking in class "Richard makes money even when the stocks are falling". He seemed he didn't really understood the definition of short selling I was telling him, anyway, it was just one anecdote.

Back to the story my father told me if I keep doing this so good he would give me an additional $150 to trade with. When he got home from work I would always tell him what happened today on the exchange. I got the $150 and I was still in the game with borrowed money as well. 3-4 months of real-money trading and I still didn't lose my money. I remember considering trading as a money-making machine, I was even telling fellow traders on forums how I made a lot of money and how easy trading is, all you got to do is follow the news. I had even got a blog (which I deleted like two years ago because of the tons of ridiculous trade and technical analysis I published, along with my real-name) where I was sharing my trades along with screenshots, and published my outlooks and analysis on the bluechips of our country's exchange. I had like half a year of experience and I was attempting to teach the business, I wrote also a lot on how trading is done and what you should do to be profitable. Was kind of pathetic, again, looking back.

In just a few months I found myself in big losses. I used no stoploss at all, psychological pressure played a big role. Equity was down like 50%, and my father was understanding: told me I should change something in my style, otherwise I should quit. My mom said the same, even my grandparents, but I thought they do not understand how this is work and it takes time to be successful (by that time I was over a lot of a books, I remember the case of Jesse Livermore motivating me)

So, truth be told I was too much in love with the markets and I enjoyed too much watching the news and trading so I decided to move on and let the stock trading go (By this time I could not even imagine my life without it, for real), this time I decided to try Forex works. I took a few months to learn the basics, when I took two weeks demo trading, with big gains, but with enormous leverage. Thought it's nothing serious and I can easily make money, so again, borrowing money from my father (270 euros) to tryout real-money forex trading, losing it again happened.

At this point I was down with like 550$ forex and stock losses combined, it was bit of a discouraging experience. Had some remaining money on my stock brokerage account, and had some on my forex brokerage account and withdraw all, gave back to my father. Decided to "start a new life" and getting back to the basics, this was the time I realized hard work needs to be done, and trading is not that easy I thought. I was seeking motivation on the internet, decided to start things much more seriously now. Started reading more books, started demo-trading more seriously and for longer periods, started attending webinars, free courses over the internet, forums also did an enormous help. This was the point I started working again for my parents, to raise capital overtime so I could get back into trading.
One year of trading experience was done

Long story short, I spent the next two years reading a lot, books, forums, articles, spent time with demo-trading. Anything related to forex interested me and I read. During this time I also lost two other accounts, an account with $200 and an other account with $300. This was the most miserable part (so far) of my trading career. There were several consecutive months when I couldn't concentrate on my studies, most of the time I was depressed because of the constant losses (when I had money to trade with). I still have these accounts and it's not that pleasant to look at them.
On the other hand this was the period when I gained the most knowledge and had a good training of around two years. Following the markets through my phone was not a problem while in class. I bought an used, first generation iPhone with the money I saved up to be able to trade and followup news even when I was not at home.
Almost three years of trading experience was done

During this time my parents did not really support me what I fully understand, but they didn't mind me trading as long as it was my own money, however, asked me numerous time to quit trading.

So there I was with no money, but with three years of trading experience behind me which I could prove. I would say, without any exaggeration that by that time I had a good expertise of the forex market on the level of retail trading, and on technical analysis (which eventually turned out internet marketing companies specializing in forex education could use), but still was not able to generate consistent profit on demo. This was the point where I strongly considered quitting and considering starting to study real hard as graduation from my high school was in three years time and thought probably I should take my parents advice. For a a limited time I stopped any kind of connection I had to finance.

And there came the change. I was offered a part-time job at a forex forum to be a moderator for $100 a month and an additional $250 per month on a specified trading account of mine I could trade with, if I keep posting and interacting with forum members.
(A big thanks goes out here to David, my portuguese trader friend of mine who I got to know through the internet who helped me in achieving this, and also, did sponsor me with some kind of capital)

This was an incredible offer for me, and I took it of course. Right after that, having such a big step forward it gave me the idea of looking for jobs in the forex market. I realized forex does not consist of only trading - there are a number of niches in it. Through online-outsourcing (freelancer) platforms I managed to get a job starting from summer going on for an approx. 4 months at a South-African forex company as customer service/forex trader where I had a number of duties related to trading which I did truly enjoy. 3.3$/hour, 6-8 hours a day. This was a kind of bigger IM company and I have learned a lot from them, especially from their CEO who seemed to be a great leader. All the conference calls were done through Skype as well as the interview and I can recall being very-very nervous prior to the interview, especially because of my bit broken english. I wish I could still work for them.

I also managed to land a job at "internet's largest site devoted entirely to investing education", researching discount brokerages, therefore contributed to the creation of new sections of the site, I loved doing it aswell.

I started making an impressive money (impressive for a high schooler, but I would say impressive even for a manual laborer in our country for instance), paying off my relatively small-medium debts to my father, and started trading again (this time I really felt that something has changed and this time the result of my trading will be way different).
During these times not once I lost that monthly bonus of 250$, but there were better periods too - when I doubled that money and withdrawn the profit. Basically, nothing changed, and I still could not cope with my emotions.
But, there were two turning points during these times.Once I have deposited 300$ (of the money I earned through the above jobs I mentioned) of my own money to a retail fx brokerage, and turned it to the peak $4800 (of course, with the help of overleveraging), and then lost it all.
Also it should be mentioned, that like a half year ago I managed to turn $250 to $2500 which I immediately withdraw. This was a great experience, and I really needed it.

You can assume sometimes I was very dark (that $4800 really hit home), sometimes I was very sunny (that $2500). During these times I had that romantic idea that I don't have to have a degree, because on my own I will be able to make a living on the forex niche and trading and actually this thought was going through my mind ever since I started out at 14. Whatever I will do, managing forex accounts, freelancing for forex projects in the internet marketing, starting my own investment company, anything else, I thought I would succeed.

This was the romantic idea I had for a pretty long time, but coming to the conclusion during the summer break (before 11th Grade started) that if I really want to make a step forward, and eventually want to make it big, I gotta concentrate on studying, and get into a top university. Also this was the time when I first heard or let's say went into more detail about investment banking as a potential for breaking into finance/wallstreet/trading, you name it. And started following related websites like WSO, and M&I.

I used to enter a lot of forex demo trading contests, but never managed to win any of them. There was this mixed-instruments contest a few months ago where the grand prize was an Audi A3 and I really got close of winning. For the last two weeks I was leading the rankings and really had this feeling I am going to win this car because there was a considerable gap between me and the second placeholder. Literally in the last day of the contest I fucked up and from being the supposed winner I fallen back to the literal absolute last place (I left a huge oil position overnight, turned out a huge negative swap is charged). Shame the platform is no longer working and I can not export the trading statement.

It was pretty shocking especially because all I must had to do is to stop trading and wait for the end. Following week I was mostly grumpy with everybody and even now when I think back, it makes me angry for a moment.
One more lecture from the market.

Since the start of 11th Grade I quit regular, conservative trading and my moderator position, now I just play with that monthly bonus of 250$.
With high leverage whether I double it or lose it all: I'm thinking of it as it doesn't matter - it's not my money in some way, as I can withdraw only the profit I made over the bonus. Basically what I do is playing casino with this money and looking to trade volatile sessions only, when there is a news announcement - odds are somewhere around 50%-50% obviously so if I win I withdraw the profit and save that money up - if I lose then I acknowledge lost that one and I can move on and continue concentrating on my studies. Usually it takes only 2-3 days away from my concentration on studies, before I end up with a margin call.

So, this is where I am now.

As for the moment:
Putting a quite considerable emphasis on academic performance, with keeping an eye on financial markets regularly and preparing for the only two, but very prestigious in our country economics & monetary policy challenges held for high school students.

As for the competitions and for my attitude towards finance:
Me (as a teacher, and captain of the team) and my team managed to get into the finals for one of them (till for the other one it's still the qualification round).

One of them is sponsored by the largest investment banks and brokerage houses, as well as universities and the stock exchange of our country, while one of them is solely sponsored and ran by our central bank.

Basically I organized all the things including picking my teammates, preparing the team, and making the team into the finals (there was a trading part of the game, there were series of online tests, certain kind of simulations, essays to qualify for the finals) which is absolutely FINE, not everybody could have the same interest.

It just sucks that nobody in my school (definitely no one) and my surroundings would have the same interest, and that teammates are motivated by the grand prizes of the competitions - meanwhile I could give a shit about it: All I care is that certain spring week we would be offered and tours through financial institutions, and mainly: meeting with people with the same interest. I am hoping their source of motivation (the grand prize) won't get them work any less for the competition.

As for my goals in 2013:
Save up more money, ending the grade with a satisfying result, winning the two above mentioned competitions, having my summer spent abroad, to my profit (internship) and to my liking at the same time (having fun), and having my university application sent.

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Thank you for taking the time to read my story.
Somewhere it may sound romantic, but I'm absolutely honest and it's true all the way down.

EDIT:

* I decided to put this down a few days ago but now put it back up, since based on the initial comments reading my story would come through as I just want to brag, meanwhile the reality is different as I wanted to tell my story because nobody in my surroundings would "understand" what I was doing or would be interested, despite they want to know how much money did I lost or made.

* I also decided that I'm gonna come back time by time, to inform you (or just for me) to keep track of my achievements and failures.

* Also I changed my mind and uploaded a few things, and added a few additional points to the story which I did not cover.

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LBObuyout's picture

cool

LBObuyout
      IB
 
(Baboon, 174
 
Points)
 on 1/5/13 at 10:25am

cool

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jdrdeer's picture

The first thing that caught

jdrdeer
      HF
 
(Senior Baboon, 182
 
Points)
 on 1/5/13 at 10:37am

The first thing that caught my eye was "My first memory was when i was 12 or 13..." then I stopped reading.

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The Situation's picture

karypto: I skimmed your

The Situation
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(Baboon, 151
 
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 on 1/5/13 at 4:45pm
karypto:

I skimmed your 'passion' ... sounds like yous be a typical Jewish kid not sure if he wants to please his parents by going in to finance/medicine/law or become a philosopher in his 20s.

no need for racism bra

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BlackHat's picture

This is pure gold

BlackHat
      HF
 
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 4,949
 
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 on 1/8/13 at 3:22pm

This is pure gold

I hate victims who respect their executioners

Follow BH & Co. on Twitter: @DumbLuckCapital
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HFFBALLfan123's picture

Is your fund oversubscribed

HFFBALLfan123
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(King Kong, 1,371
 
Points)
 on 1/8/13 at 3:29pm

Is your fund oversubscribed or do I still have time to get in at the ground level?

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HFFBALLfan123's picture

Is your fund oversubscribed

HFFBALLfan123
      PE
 
 
(King Kong, 1,371
 
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 on 1/8/13 at 3:29pm

Is your fund oversubscribed or do I still have time to get in at the ground level?

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OkComputer's picture

This is the definition of

OkComputer
      IB
 
(Senior Baboon, 175
 
Points)
 on 1/8/13 at 4:21pm

This is the definition of TLDR

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." --Abraham Lincoln

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Kenny Powers's picture

"So now I'm 16 now and there

Kenny Powers
      O
 
(Senior Gorilla, 871
 
Points)
 on 1/8/13 at 5:45pm

"So now I'm 16 now and there is a cute girl down the street who I'm going to buy a $150 bracelet for, that $150 is the money I've made trading."

You're one of those fucking annoying kids who tells everyone everything about their life first day of freshman year.

pick em, lick em, stick em

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sick_willy's picture

wtf did i just read and why

sick_willy
      PE
 
(Senior Orangutan, 434
 
Points)
 on 1/8/13 at 8:11pm

wtf did i just read and why are there random bold phrases?

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BossMode

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pundit's picture

wait what

pundit
     
 
(Senior Chimp, 18
 
Points)
 on 1/14/13 at 1:46am

wait what

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Nouveau Richie's picture

(No subject)

Nouveau Richie
      IB
 
(Neanderthal, 2,785
 
Points)
 on 1/14/13 at 2:14am

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D M's picture

NR, BH, HFF, whats with being

D M
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(Senior Neanderthal, 4,817
 
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 on 1/14/13 at 10:07pm

NR, BH, HFF, whats with being douchebags? The rest of these guys don't mean shit to me, but you're supposed to be on here helping these people and encouraging them. I know you have to put up with some bullshit from time to time, but this kid put some serious effort into writing this up. He made it clear that he doesn't have anyone else to share it with, so from the bottom of my heart, fuck you guys.

Kid, congrats on getting started. Hopefully someone else will see it and be inspired to give it a go. If I have one piece of advice to you: keep updating this thread (or any publicly visible record of your trades). It may not necessarily help you, but once the gold star guys up there stop being douchebags they might be willing to give you some tips/tricks/ideas for how you can further your trading career.

Also, might be better to move this to the trading forum, may get a more positive response from it.

"WSO is like the 300 for anti spamage. None shall pass." -happypantsmcgee
"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer

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Eurodealer's picture

"there are things what are

Eurodealer
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(Baboon, 119
 
Points)
 on 1/15/13 at 1:31pm

"there are things what are necessary to buy, and there are things what are not necessary"

Why?

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ranney95's picture

Eurodealer: It means that my

ranney95
     
 
(Chimp, 14
 
Points)
 on 1/16/13 at 10:57am

Eurodealer:
It means that my parents would buy the lowest quality of stuff which were not important (what they considered not important), but whenever it came to something important they were always generous with money. Whenever I wanted to buy a book or anything else which I could explain it's worth the investment they would never say they wouldn't give me money.

DM:
Thanks for your words, respect.

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thestockwalker's picture

yeah

thestockwalker
     
 
(Chimp, 6
 
Points)
 on 2/15/13 at 6:54am

yeah

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BTbanker's picture

Asians....

BTbanker
      IB
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 5,336
 
Points)
 on 2/15/13 at 8:34am
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BTbanker's picture

D M: NR, BH, HFF, whats with

BTbanker
      IB
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 5,336
 
Points)
 on 2/15/13 at 8:48am

"A man generally has two reasons for doing anything. One that sounds good, and the real one." - J.P. Morgan

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D M's picture

BTbanker: Did you Read the

D M
      O
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 4,817
 
Points)
 on 2/15/13 at 11:18am

"WSO is like the 300 for anti spamage. None shall pass." -happypantsmcgee
"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer

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BTbanker's picture

D M: BTbanker: Did you Read

BTbanker
      IB
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 5,336
 
Points)
 on 2/15/13 at 11:34am

"A man generally has two reasons for doing anything. One that sounds good, and the real one." - J.P. Morgan

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D M's picture

BTbanker: I give him props

D M
      O
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 4,817
 
Points)
 on 2/15/13 at 11:54am

"WSO is like the 300 for anti spamage. None shall pass." -happypantsmcgee
"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer

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ranney95's picture

The final round of the

ranney95
     
 
(Chimp, 14
 
Points)
 on 2/19/13 at 1:16pm
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General Rules: Users may not use the Web Site in order to transmit, distribute, store or destroy material (a) in violation of any applicable law or regulation, (b) in a manner that will infringe the copyright, trademark, trade secret or other intellectual property rights of others or violate the privacy, publicity or other personal rights of others, or (c) that is defamatory, obscene, threatening, abusive or hateful.

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As a condition to your use of this site, you release the Company (and our agents and employees) from claims, demands and damages (actual and consequential, direct and indirect) of every kind and nature, known and unknown, suspected and unsuspected, disclosed and undisclosed, arising out of or in any way connected with such disputes. If you are a California resident, you waive California Civil Code d1542, which says: "A general release does not extend to claims which the creditor does not know or suspect to exist in his favor at the time of executing the release, which if known by him must have materially affected his settlement with the debtor."

We are under no legal obligation to, and generally do not, control the information provided by other users which is made available through the Web Site. By its very nature, other people?s information may be offensive, harmful or inaccurate, and in some cases will be mislabeled or deceptively labeled. We expect that you will use caution and common sense when using this Web Site.

The Material may contain inaccuracies or typographical errors. The Company makes no representations about the accuracy, reliability, completeness, or timeliness of the Web Site or the Material. The use of the Web Site and the Material is at your own risk. Changes are periodically made to the Web Site and may be made at any time.

You acknowledge and agree that you are solely responsible for the content and accuracy of any resume or material contained therein placed by you on the Web Site and you agree to let any users that are identified as recruiters (designated in the sole discretion of the Company) to have access to your resume.

The Company is not to be considered to be an employer with respect to your use of the Web Site and the Company shall not be responsible for any employment decisions, for whatever reason made, made by any entity posting jobs on the Web Site.

THE COMPANY DOES NOT WARRANT THAT THE WEB SITE WILL OPERATE ERROR-FREE OR THAT THE WEB SITE AND ITS SERVER ARE FREE OF COMPUTER VIRUSES OR OTHER HARMFUL MECHANISMS. IF YOUR USE OF THE WEB SITE OR THE MATERIAL RESULTS IN THE NEED FOR SERVICING OR REPLACING EQUIPMENT OR DATA, THE COMPANY IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE COSTS.

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Disclaimer of Consequential Damages.

IN NO EVENT SHALL THE COMPANY, ITS SUPPLIERS, OR ANY THIRD PARTIES MENTIONED ON THE WEB SITE BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER (INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, INCIDENTAL AND CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES, LOST PROFITS, OR DAMAGES RESULTING FROM LOST DATA OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) RESULTING FROM THE USE OR INABILITY TO USE THE WEB SITE AND THE MATERIAL, WHETHER BASED ON WARRANTY, CONTRACT, TORT, OR ANY OTHER LEGAL THEORY, AND WHETHER OR NOT THE COMPANY IS ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.

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The Web Site may contain links to third party web sites. These links are provided solely as a convenience to you and not as an endorsement by the Company of the contents on such third-party Web sites. The Company is not responsible for the content of linked third-party sites and does not make any representations regarding the content or accuracy of materials on such third party Web sites. If you decide to access linked third party Web sites, you do so at your own risk.

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Limitation of Liability.

The aggregate liability for the Company to you for all claims arising from the use of the Materials is limited to $1.

Termination.

The Company reserves the right, at its sole discretion, to pursue all of its legal remedies, including but not limited to immediate termination of your registration with or ability to access the Web Site and/or any other service provided to you by the Company, upon any breach by you of these Terms and Conditions or if the Company is unable to verify or authenticate any information you submit to the Web Site registration with or ability to access the Web Site.

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General.

The Company makes no claims that the Materials may be lawfully viewed or downloaded outside of the United States. Access to the Materials may not be legal by certain persons or in certain countries. If you access the Web Site from outside of the United States, you do so at your own risk and are responsible for compliance with the laws of your jurisdiction. These Terms and conditions are governed by the internal substantive laws of the State of New York, without respect to its conflict of laws principles. Jurisdiction for any claims arising under this agreement shall lie exclusively with the state or federal courts within New York, New York. If any provision of these Terms and Conditions are found to be invalid by any court having competent jurisdiction, the invalidity of such provision shall not affect the validity of the remaining provisions of these Terms and Conditions, which shall remain in full force and effect. No waiver of any term of these Terms and Conditions shall be deemed a further or continuing waiver of such term or any other term. Except as expressly provided in additional terms of use for areas of the Web Site a particular "Legal Notice," or Software License or Material on particular Web pages, these Terms and Conditions constitute the entire agreement between you and the Company with respect to the use of Web Site. No changes to these Terms and Conditions shall be made except by a revised posting on this page.

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Our staff, contractors, Internet service providers and others involved in this site follow this policy or similarly strict policies regarding your Information.

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Use and Disclosure Limitations

The Company only uses personal information about its Web site users for specific purposes. We do not share user information with third parties except when we have told users about the disclosures, when we have prior consent, or when required by law.

Use Policy: When the Company gathers personal information from users, we ask for permission first. We also disclose, at the time of collection, how the information will be used by us. Personal information is used for activities such as auto-completion of commonly-used forms and helping us contact you when you solicit information from us.

Disclosure Policy: We do not normally disclose personal information to anyone outside of the Company unless we have previously informed users about the disclosures. However, some data may be used from time to time by outside contractors, including auditors or consultants, to assist us in carrying out necessary financial or operational activities. These uses will be consistent with this privacy policy and all contractors using this potential personal information must agree to safeguard it, to use it only for the authorized purpose, and to return it or destroy it upon completion of the activity.

The Company might be required to disclose personal information in response to a valid legal process such as a subpoena, search warrant or court order.

Although unlikely, it is possible that we may have to make certain disclosures to ensure the security of our Web site, to protect its integrity, or to take precautions against potential liability. In any of these situations, we will take any reasonable steps to limit the scope of the data disclosed.

Web Logs: The Company maintains standard Web logs that record basic information about visitors to our Web site. These logs contain: * The Internet domain from which you came to our Web site. * Your IP address. An IP address is a series of numbers which uniquely identifies your connection to the Internet. Although it is possible in some instances, certain types of IP addresses may be used by interested persons to identify users but we do not attempt to identify users in this way. * The type of browser (e.g., Internet Explorer or Netscape) and operating system (e.g., Windows 98) you use. * The date and time you visited the site, and the pages you saw.

We use Web log information to design our Web site, identify popular features, and in similar ways. We do not try to identify individuals from Web logs or to link Web logs to other user information. However, if someone tries to damage our Web site or use it in an unauthorized or illegal way, we may share Web log information with law enforcement agencies. The Company may provide aggregate information such as the number of users who visit particular pages of the site, or the number of people who link to certain external sites from our site, to other parties.

Changes to Privacy Policy

The Company's features and services will change over time and our information-gathering practices and policies may also change.

While our philosophy of protecting user information from inappropriate uses and disclosures will not change, this policy will be updated occasionally to include any change that materially affects the collection, maintenance, use, or disclosure of personal information.

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