10/20/12

Moderator Note (Andy): Best of WSO - this post originally went up April 2012 and we thought it deserved to go back on the homepage for those who may have never seen it.

Fellow monkeys, I have a confession to make:

I am a hipster who wants to be an investment banker.

As I have lurked through these very boards, I've noticed that the hipster investment banker is a mythical creature that few of you have ever seen, or even spoken of. Some have argued that a few of WSO's most active members tend toward the obscure, but to call them hipsters would be a mode of extremeness that even the most trollish members of our community might not tolerate.

I am not, however, a full-blown hipster. I enjoy early-90s hip hop, the indie music scene in general, neo-noir movies, and intellectual conversations that always run in circles and never amount to much of anything. If available, I'll always choose an independent coffee shop instead of a Starbucks, not because I am a coffee snob (I don't even drink it often), but because the atmosphere is more appealing to me. I am infinitely more attracted to hipster girls than I am to sorority girls, and I wouldn't even utter "finance girls" in the same breath. I wear jeans that fit normally, casual dress shoes (think oxfords), and a non-plaid button down routinely, so I suppose that is another point of difference.

I'm a huge social liberal, but the classic hipster and I diverge on all issues economic, for good reasons (they're just wrong in the absolute sense). I'm not an Occupier, and I'm not a supporter of what liberal economic policies have become. I am also not here to start a political debate, so I'll leave that aspect of this post here.

Are there people like me out there in the finance world? If I had to pick my crowd, I'd much rather hang around a bunch of people who drink PBR and talk about random, sometimes geeky, shit than around your prototypical "models and bottles" investment bankers. Is this social lifestyle sustainable in IB (not a trick question, I know social lives go out the window anyway), or will the other folks just ostracize me as soon as they pin me as a closet hipster?

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4/2/12

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4/2/12

Yes, there are people like you out there : Flake

He's from Romania.

In reply to Abdel
4/2/12
Abdel:

Yes, there are people like you out there : Flake

He's from Romania.

LMFAO u beat me to Flake. first thing that popped in my mind when i read the title.

In reply to Abdel
4/2/12

I think you have an oversimplified view of what it means to be a financier and you assume a lot of things about this archetypal "finance-bro" which I really have yet to observe in such a one-dimensional fashion.

In reply to Nouveau Richie
4/2/12
Nouveau Richie:

I think you have an oversimplified view of what it means to be a financier and you assume a lot of things about this archetypal "finance-bro" which I really have yet to observe in such a one-dimensional fashion.

I would completely agree with you, and my ulterior-motive for this thread was to have someone dispute the fact that the "finance-bro" is really the dominant dude in the show.

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4/2/12
oldmansacks:
Abdel:

Yes, there are people like you out there : Flake

He's from Romania.

LMFAO u beat me to Flake. first thing that popped in my mind when i read the title.

If you guys think Flake is a hipster, it only means you have absolutely no idea what a hipster is.

4/2/12

You certainly don't sound like a hipster, frankly.

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if you described a good portion of the less visible IB folks, no?

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4/2/12

You sound like you're in the middle of the continuum between hipster douche and frat bro douche. Congratulations, you might be about as close to normal as anyone in finance gets.

FWIW, most financiers don't constantly talk about models and bottles, only the ones who don't get it touched.

4/2/12

Wanna be hipster + wanna be banker. Nothing wrong with that.

4/2/12

There are plenty of traditional geeks and nerds with whom you would might identify. The kind of kids who probably stayed up late arguing about Marcel Proust or something.

In the book The Quants, one of the big quant traders liked to play guitar in subway stations and things like that. A lot of smart people have very eclectic interests.

In fact, I'd say that someone who is actually cool in the traditional sense (good looking, funny) and in finance is relatively rare.

That said, divisions like "hipster" and "bro" are a lot less evident out of college. I sat next to and thus befriended people who were not at all like my friends in college.

4/2/12

Flake would be a homo before a hipster.

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4/2/12

I've always thought that if you call yourself a hipster, you're not really a hipster.

If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough.

"There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.

In reply to Nouveau Richie
4/2/12
Nouveau Richie:
oldmansacks:
Abdel:

Yes, there are people like you out there : Flake

He's from Romania.

LMFAO u beat me to Flake. first thing that popped in my mind when i read the title.

If you guys think Flake is a hipster, it only means you have absolutely no idea what a hipster is.

o really, u4e told me that Flake was a gypsy

In reply to wolverine19x89
4/2/12

i saw this really, really pretty hispter girl on the train the other day. I asked myself, "swagon, why does this perfectly hot - gorgeous, honestly - girl WANT to be part of some idiotic culture? Why doesn't she turn her swag on and be a normal hot girl?" She had the most outrageous 1960's glasses you can imagine and an outrageously conspicuous weird-ass poof in the front of her hair...swagon was saddened, but also confused because swagon thought the whole point of subculture is that you don't have what it takes to succeed in the mainstream so you join a bunch of losers in a subculture? But this girl was naturally beautiful? wtf?

4/2/12

Jeans that fit normally?!? Then no worries, you're no hipster.

In reply to swagon
4/2/12
swagon:

i saw this really, really pretty hispter girl on the train the other day. I asked myself, "swagon, why does this perfectly hot - gorgeous, honestly - girl WANT to be part of some idiotic culture? Why doesn't she turn her swag on and be a normal hot girl?" She had the most outrageous 1960's glasses you can imagine and an outrageously conspicuous weird-ass poof in the front of her hair...swagon was saddened, but also confused because swagon thought the whole point of subculture is that you don't have what it takes to succeed in the mainstream so you join a bunch of losers in a subculture? But this girl was naturally beautiful? wtf?

''tonyperkis: pics or it didn't happen''

In reply to chris_g
4/2/12
chris_g:

Jeans that fit normally?!? Then no worries, you're no hipster.

true dat. they always wearin them baggy-ass jeans hangin below they butt wit they undawear stickin out. mayne, pull up yo pants son cause yo pants on tha ground! damn hispterz!!

In reply to Abdel
4/2/12
Abdel:
swagon:

i saw this really, really pretty hispter girl on the train the other day. I asked myself, "swagon, why does this perfectly hot - gorgeous, honestly - girl WANT to be part of some idiotic culture? Why doesn't she turn her swag on and be a normal hot girl?" She had the most outrageous 1960's glasses you can imagine and an outrageously conspicuous weird-ass poof in the front of her hair...swagon was saddened, but also confused because swagon thought the whole point of subculture is that you don't have what it takes to succeed in the mainstream so you join a bunch of losers in a subculture? But this girl was naturally beautiful? wtf?

''tonyperkis: pics or it didn't happen''

I don't take pics of people on the subway. But really, this girl was very, very pretty.

4/2/12

I enjoy early-90s hip hop, the indie music scene in general, neo-noir movies, and intellectual conversations that always run in circles and never amount to much of anything.

You sound like a pretentious pseudo-intellectual. I wouldn't want to work next to you for 90hrs/wk.
In reply to swagon
4/2/12
swagon:
Abdel:
swagon:

i saw this really, really pretty hispter girl on the train the other day. I asked myself, "swagon, why does this perfectly hot - gorgeous, honestly - girl WANT to be part of some idiotic culture? Why doesn't she turn her swag on and be a normal hot girl?" She had the most outrageous 1960's glasses you can imagine and an outrageously conspicuous weird-ass poof in the front of her hair...swagon was saddened, but also confused because swagon thought the whole point of subculture is that you don't have what it takes to succeed in the mainstream so you join a bunch of losers in a subculture? But this girl was naturally beautiful? wtf?

''tonyperkis: pics or it didn't happen''

I don't take pics of people on the subway. But really, this girl was very, very pretty.

''tonyperkis: so.....it didn't happen?''

In reply to john2
4/2/12
john2:

I enjoy early-90s hip hop, the indie music scene in general, neo-noir movies, and intellectual conversations that always run in circles and never amount to much of anything.

You sound like a pretentious pseudo-intellectual. I wouldn't want to work next to you for 90hrs/wk.

Actually you would, I have an outrageous amount of fun at work and generally don't take myself too seriously. I guess I do like a lot of "pseudo-intellectual" stuff, and I'm not one to talk about NCAA football 24/7 (or at all basically), but I don't think I'm all that bad of a co-worker.

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4/2/12
john2:

I enjoy early-90s hip hop, the indie music scene in general, neo-noir movies, and intellectual conversations that always run in circles and never amount to much of anything.

You sound like a pretentious pseudo-intellectual. I wouldn't want to work next to you for 90hrs/wk.

This

4/2/12

Man. I hate hipsters. One of my best friends is a hipster and I rag on him all the time about it.

I think Wolverine's right about hipsters not calling themselves hipsters, though. Unless... you're such a hipster that you're too cool for the regular hipster crowd, so you call yourself a hipster to differentiate yourself, which makes you even more hipster, which... wait, what

In reply to Angus Macgyver
4/2/12
Angus Macgyver:

Man. I hate hipsters. One of my best friends is a hipster

interesting

4/2/12

first reaction upon reading the subject line: lolwtfwhyareyouhereagain

In reply to swagon
4/2/12
swagon:

i saw this really, really pretty hispter girl on the train the other day. I asked myself, "swagon, why does this perfectly hot - gorgeous, honestly - girl WANT to be part of some idiotic culture? Why doesn't she turn her swag on and be a normal hot girl?" She had the most outrageous 1960's glasses you can imagine and an outrageously conspicuous weird-ass poof in the front of her hair...swagon was saddened, but also confused because swagon thought the whole point of subculture is that you don't have what it takes to succeed in the mainstream so you join a bunch of losers in a subculture? But this girl was naturally beautiful? wtf?

Rollin around with Daddys Credit Card = 50% of dumbass beautiful hipster girls in the world #fact

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4/2/12
wallstreetballa:
swagon:

i saw this really, really pretty hispter girl on the train the other day. I asked myself, "swagon, why does this perfectly hot - gorgeous, honestly - girl WANT to be part of some idiotic culture? Why doesn't she turn her swag on and be a normal hot girl?" She had the most outrageous 1960's glasses you can imagine and an outrageously conspicuous weird-ass poof in the front of her hair...swagon was saddened, but also confused because swagon thought the whole point of subculture is that you don't have what it takes to succeed in the mainstream so you join a bunch of losers in a subculture? But this girl was naturally beautiful? wtf?

Rollin around with Daddys Credit Card = 50% of dumbass beautiful hipster girls in the world #fact

No doubt. But most hipster girls are not hot, am I right? As in, there's a lower proportion of hot hipster girls than in a similar female age/income bracket, right? I honestly haven't seen enough to make a definitive judgement, but that's what logic tells me. Joining the hipster crowd is a way for a fugly chick to fit in somewhere, but why would a hot chick want to make herself look retarded???

4/3/12

Shave that beard. Make sure the Kings of Leon doesn't put you to sleep when you're in the office late at night... and have a suit that isn't plaid and linen. Then you may or may not be fine.

4/3/12
In reply to swagon
4/3/12
swagon:
Angus Macgyver:

Man. I hate hipsters. One of my best friends is a hipster

interesting

I know, right.

4/3/12

You don't sound like a hipster; you just sound like a pretentious douche.

4/3/12

What cut of Urban Outfitters suits do you recommend?

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4/3/12
In reply to ST Monkey
4/3/12
ST Monkey:

hipsters scares me

They shouldn't, they're humongous pussies. Unless you're terrified of being looked at condescendingly, you have nothing to fear.

If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough.

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In reply to DonVon
4/3/12

"I did it for me...I liked it...I was good at it. And I was really... I was alive."

4/3/12

If you take a job in banking, you'll still be yourself. Wearing a suit to work doesn't change your identity. Stop being so petty - your entire post is about what kinds of brands you prefer and what kind of clothes you wear. Those are meaningless factors when you are considering banking as a career. Your definition of investment bankers seems to be quite shallow.

There is one hipster on my floor and he's not over the top. But super skinny pants and dress shirts with the sleeves rolled up above his elbows. He works in IT.

Also a question: You said you are a hawk in the workplace. How do you know this given you haven't likely ever had a white collar job before? Or are you just making shit up?

4/3/12

A very presumptuous post.

Contrary to what CNN has told you about the banker archetype, it is a career full of different people.

My first supervisor was a brainy Welsh MILF by the name of Molly. Molly was gregarious & fun-loving. Life of the party & overall great gal. But Molly could never be found outside office hours. Molly had a terrible secret you see....Warhammer 40k!

And there's Jeff Simpson and his 13 dogs.
Kuvani Gupta, the hippy, and her endless collection of B&W arty movies & painting hobby.
David Chang and his vitamin-popping yoga/health fetish.
[all not real names but close enough....God I hope you guys arent on WSO]

__________

In reply to SaucyBacon85
4/3/12
SaucyBacon85:

A very presumptuous post.

Contrary to what CNN has told you about the banker archetype, it is a career full of different people.

My first supervisor was a brainy Welsh MILF by the name of Molly. Molly was gregarious & fun-loving. Life of the party & overall great gal. But Molly could never be found outside office hours. Molly had a terrible secret you see....Warhammer 40k!

And there's Jeff Simpson and his 13 dogs.
Kuvani Gupta, the hippy, and her endless collection of B&W arty movies & painting hobby.
David Chang and his vitamin-popping yoga/health fetish.
[all not real names but close enough....God I hope you guys arent on WSO]

yeah we r both on WSO reading ur post rite now. i am Kuvani, my real name as u know is Kuvanya, and Molly is Mandy...we just read ur post. u r n trouble, sux 4 u

4/3/12

i remember seeing a UK recruiting video for one of th BB's a few years ago. One of their star employees had a "Flock of Seagulls" haircut.. let that be inspiration enough

4/3/12

Seeing as hipsters don't believe in personal hygiene, I'm not sure anyone would want to hang with you in the workplace.

In reply to gamenumbers
4/3/12
gamenumbers:

Also a question: You said you are a hawk in the workplace. How do you know this given you haven't likely ever had a white collar job before? Or are you just making shit up?

I've been out of school for quite a while and have held a white collar job, just not in finance.

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In reply to swagon
4/3/12
swagon:
SaucyBacon85:

A very presumptuous post.

Contrary to what CNN has told you about the banker archetype, it is a career full of different people.

My first supervisor was a brainy Welsh MILF by the name of Molly. Molly was gregarious & fun-loving. Life of the party & overall great gal. But Molly could never be found outside office hours. Molly had a terrible secret you see....Warhammer 40k!

And there's Jeff Simpson and his 13 dogs.
Kuvani Gupta, the hippy, and her endless collection of B&W arty movies & painting hobby.
David Chang and his vitamin-popping yoga/health fetish.
[all not real names but close enough....God I hope you guys arent on WSO]

yeah we r both on WSO reading ur post rite now. i am Kuvani, my real name as u know is Kuvanya, and Molly is Mandy...we just read ur post. u r n trouble, sux 4 u

Ex-employer but jeez dude...you almost got one of the names correct & had me going for a second there.

__________

In reply to she_monkey
4/3/12
she_monkey:

first reaction upon reading the subject line: lolwtfwhyareyouhereagain

^^^

Thread fail XD

Get busy living

4/3/12

You aren't really hipster, but I can see compared to frat lax-bro's you would be. I am also not really "hipster," but stereotypical sorostitutes might label me as such. I think you would be surprised at how many share our sensibilities...basically we are the in-between of being complete hipster douches (looking like homeless people) and the models-and-bottles assholes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TOHhLYTUps

In reply to anaismalcolm
4/3/12
anaismalcolm:

You aren't really hipster, but I can see compared to frat lax-bro's you would be. I am also not really "hipster," but stereotypical sorostitutes might label me as such. I think you would be surprised at how many share our sensibilities...basically we are the in-between of being complete hipster douches (looking like homeless people) and the models-and-bottles assholes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TOHhLYTUps

Haha great video, and I think you and I are pretty much on the same page in a lot of ways.

For the record, I wasn't operating under the assumption that everyone in banking is a lax-bro, it's partly funny to think about whether or not it's true, and partly funny because it's mostly untrue. Most of my friends at BBs are just driven people who want to get somewhere in life, and don't really belong to one sub-culture or another.

But I'll thicken the plot a little bit: I'm located in the Southeast (not NYC, where I imagine the scene is a lot more diverse). This might be a game-changer.

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4/3/12

warhammer 40k ftw

but on the real if ur a hipster we wont be seen together @ fuqua. ill disacknowledge your existence even more so than the typical MBA does to the MMS there :|

4/3/12

"I am the hero of the story. I don't need to be saved."

4/3/12

Short, I'm not a tried and true hipster man! I wouldn't be caught dead in vintage Levi's, Tom's shoes, with unkempt hair.

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In reply to DonVon
4/3/12
Vontropnats:

Short, I'm not a tried and true hipster man! I wouldn't be caught dead in vintage Levi's, Tom's shoes, with unkempt hair.

Tom's are some of the most comfortable shoes known to man...granted I only wear the boots but still don't bash Tom's just cause you like your indie rock and hole in the wall coffee shops..

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In reply to DonVon
4/3/12
Vontropnats:
anaismalcolm:

You aren't really hipster, but I can see compared to frat lax-bro's you would be. I am also not really "hipster," but stereotypical sorostitutes might label me as such. I think you would be surprised at how many share our sensibilities...basically we are the in-between of being complete hipster douches (looking like homeless people) and the models-and-bottles assholes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TOHhLYTUps

Haha great video, and I think you and I are pretty much on the same page in a lot of ways.

For the record, I wasn't operating under the assumption that everyone in banking is a lax-bro, it's partly funny to think about whether or not it's true, and partly funny because it's mostly untrue. Most of my friends at BBs are just driven people who want to get somewhere in life, and don't really belong to one sub-culture or another.

But I'll thicken the plot a little bit: I'm located in the Southeast (not NYC, where I imagine the scene is a lot more diverse). This might be a game-changer.

I am actually from the Southeast, but now in NYC. And for someone mentioning Toms, I totally wear those on the subway before work...but then change into Louboutin's.

4/3/12

Why do you "want to hang around people who drink PBR"? I am not not saying I don't drink it or that I have an issue with those that do. I just find that amazing..."this guy/girl seems really cool but whoa hold on one second they're drinking ______ beer! what a loser". I just don't get it. I have friends who have shitty taste in beer, I really only care about what beer I like. Also, jeans that look like they would fit a little girl don't fit "normally" you fucking try hard.

Who you calling a psycho?!?!

4/3/12

You sound like a doucher. You attempt to paint yourself as some sort of bohemian intellectual but you fail at it miserably. Why do u give a shit what other people will think? Do you really think you'll be the only person at your workplace that likes to engage in intellectual discussions or the only one w eclectic interests?

Do what makes you happy bro. I like fucking sorority girls, day parties, jerseys and Jordan's , fitted snap backs, and everything else you would prolly associate w the "bro" culture. Doesn't mean I don't spend half my time on food blogs, reading academic journals for fun, cooking, or hanging in coffee shops.

"Life all comes down to a few moments. This is one of them." - Bud Fox

4/3/12

If you only drink PBR, you're trying too hard. It's bland beer for a bland personality. Try something with a little bit more "hoppssss".

Don't be a douche, don't be a bro, don't be a hipster. Be yourself and do a ton of different things. And please do not join a fixed gear bicylce crew.

4/3/12

There's some hot hipsters serving me my daily americano at starbucks every morning

4/3/12

unfortunately I believe that this "models and bottles" banker stereotype is the minority that those not yet in the profession (90% of this board) believe they will soon be.

You'll be fine man, if youre good at what you do and people like you then that's all you should worry about.

4/3/12

Who the heck cares? Really dude.. if you can put on your game face and act like a professional and get stuff done... why do you really care what you do after work? You have the choice of how you spend your time outside the workplace.. and showing up after work with people not in your 'culture' for an hour or two isn't going to kill you... even if they are a 'bro'.

4/3/12

No one cares. Do your job, do it well and don't dress in anyway that will make you stand out negatively and it won't matter.

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4/3/12

lol I never read the whole post until now... funny how you even mention that you/d like to hang around people who drink pbr... why even mention the brand of beer? my god. I can name 100 better beers than PBR. All else equal, given the choice between friends who drink Guiness/Killians/St. Paulis Girl/etc. or PBR, I'd have to sniff A LOT of paint before I choose the guys with PBR.

If you call yourself a hipster and honestly have "-drink PBR" on your criteria of who you want to hang out with, you're probably so confused about yourself it's sad. I'd rather hang out with a "models and bottles" type of guy who goes completely over the top as long as he knows that that's who he is than some wannabe hipster who tries too hard. You're not a hipster, you're just trying too hard to label yourself.
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4/3/12

You sound like a social liberal/fiscal conservative...just like most young people on Wall Street. As for your taste in music? I don't care what my friends listen to. I like both independent and studio music. Most people do.

I think you are too tied up in identity. Nobody really cares what you do, so long as it doesn't bug them...I mean, a fair portion of Wall St. borders on being clinically narcissistic, and the rest are too tired/stressed/busy to care.

In reply to technoviking
4/3/12
technoviking:

i remember seeing a UK recruiting video for one of th BB's a few years ago. One of their star employees had a "Flock of Seagulls" haircut.. let that be inspiration enough

Funny you mention this, I just saw Mike Score of the Flock of Seagulls two weekends ago and, I am sorry to tell you this, but he no longer has that haircut.... in fact he is now a middle-aged Bald Fat guy who looks like someone's uncle...
Mike Score - Flock of SeagullsMike Score - Flock of Seagulls on Flickr

As to OP's question, if you are a star producer then you can get away with "eccentric" fashion sense, hair style etc. Also folks on the buy side tend to have much more relaxed dress code in general. If you are making money for the firm, then nobody cares if you come in flannel shirt, pajama pants and fluffy bunny flip flops.

Too late for second-guessing Too late to go back to sleep.

In reply to optimus_prime
4/4/12
optimus_prime:

You don't sound like a hipster; you just sound like a pretentious douche.

He might fit in nicely at some shops after all.

4/4/12

I beat up hipsters with my twig, when I'm not shooting top cheese of course.

4/4/12

I was going to tell you that you were a day late on your April Fools post, but then I realized you probably are a real hipster since you just wrote a 2,000 word essay all about yourself. Did you also post it to the 17 blogs you write?

4/4/12

Alfred Jones, the founder of the world's first hedge fund, was a hipster journalist sociologist. He was doing long-short equity before it was cool.

Too late for second-guessing Too late to go back to sleep.

4/4/12

oh wow anaismalcolm still reads/posts lol

4/4/12

Well vontropnats, it seems you've fallen under the label of hipster by accident, in my opinion. Hipster has become a catch all label for people who may actually enjoy being cultured, and partaking in culture. At another time in history, the label was referred to as the "renaissance man" or "woman", as it were. No Mr. Vontropnats, I am not saying you are not a hipster by any means, because you can give yourself any label you choose. What I do know is that I myself, as a complete finance nerd, also enjoy many things "hipsterish". I am not a social liberal, indeed, I'm about as conservative as they come. And yet, I've always gravitated towards indie music, random philosophical conversations, and non-chain coffee shops. The hipster chick, with her flannel and purposefully large, non-prescription spectacles delights and elates my senses. One might even say I'm a conservative hipster, though the term may seem paradoxic. And yet, and yet, to be cultured, and to enjoy partaking in culture, is to me the one of the most satisfying things.

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In reply to WreckEmFinance
4/4/12
WreckEmFinance:

Well vontropnats, it seems you've fallen under the label of hipster by accident, in my opinion. Hipster has become a catch all label for people who may actually enjoy being cultured, and partaking in culture. At another time in history, the label was referred to as the "renaissance man" or "woman", as it were. No Mr. Vontropnats, I am not saying you are not a hipster by any means, because you can give yourself any label you choose. What I do know is that I myself, as a complete finance nerd, also enjoy many things "hipsterish". I am not a social liberal, indeed, I'm about as conservative as they come. And yet, I've always gravitated towards indie music, random philosophical conversations, and non-chain coffee shops. The hipster chick, with her flannel and purposefully large, non-prescription spectacles delights and elates my senses. One might even say I'm a conservative hipster, though the term may seem paradoxic. And yet, and yet, to be cultured, and to enjoy partaking in culture, is to me the one of the most satisfying things.

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In reply to WreckEmFinance
4/6/12
WreckEmFinance:

Well vontropnats, it seems you've fallen under the label of hipster by accident, in my opinion. Hipster has become a catch all label for people who may actually enjoy being cultured, and partaking in culture. At another time in history, the label was referred to as the "renaissance man" or "woman", as it were. No Mr. Vontropnats, I am not saying you are not a hipster by any means, because you can give yourself any label you choose. What I do know is that I myself, as a complete finance nerd, also enjoy many things "hipsterish". I am not a social liberal, indeed, I'm about as conservative as they come. And yet, I've always gravitated towards indie music, random philosophical conversations, and non-chain coffee shops. The hipster chick, with her flannel and purposefully large, non-prescription spectacles delights and elates my senses. One might even say I'm a conservative hipster, though the term may seem paradoxic. And yet, and yet, to be cultured, and to enjoy partaking in culture, is to me the one of the most satisfying things.

Being a liberal hipster is so mainstream, conservative hipsters are the real hipsters.

4/6/12

This guy is obviously dumb; a hipster is not even a "hipster" anymore everyone is in some way a goddamn hipster. Its not even cool anymore. You should do what ever makes you happy. I hate indie rock, but love hiphop from the 90's to the mid 2000's back when NY ran everything. I also like the "bottles and models" idea but its not real because coming out of school there's no way you afford to drop thousands every weekend at places like one oak or lavo; you'll be living on the street in no time even on 80-90k salary. I also started getting to the art scene recently and the girls that like that kind of thing; their just more interesting than you everyday abercrombie model from nebraska that seem to have over run the city. Just do you and stop caring what sub-culture you fit into this isn't high school

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4/6/12

I like hallucinogens and the Grateful Dead. Will I be able to make friends in IB?

In reply to john2
4/6/12
john2:

I enjoy early-90s hip hop, the indie music scene in general, neo-noir movies, and intellectual conversations that always run in circles and never amount to much of anything.

You sound like a pretentious pseudo-intellectual. I wouldn't want to work next to you for 90hrs/wk.

this.

OP i hate you and don't even know you.

He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man.

4/6/12

So much hate from so many monkeys... :(

It's almost as if all of you missed the fact that the original post is not actually serious. Sure, some of these things about me are true, but I wrote the post with the intent of getting some good discussion about a topic (social groups) that people generally like to talk about and handing out a few lulz in the process.

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In reply to Putz
4/6/12

"Being a liberal hipster is so mainstream, conservative hipsters are the real hipsters."

Haha love it!

Moody brooding Artsy fartsy flannel wearing fake glasses indie snob ["one percenter" (uneducated bullshit label)] conservative constitutionalist hedge fund hipster. This is an aspirational aspect of my psyche.

"Everything comes to those who hustle while they wait."
-Thomas Edison

In reply to DonVon
4/6/12
Vontropnats:

So much hate from so many monkeys... :(

It's almost as if all of you missed the fact that the original post is not actually serious. Sure, some of these things about me are true, but I wrote the post with the intent of getting some good discussion about a topic (social groups) that people generally like to talk about and handing out a few lulz in the process.

Now you're not just a douche-nozzle pseudo-iintellectual hipster, but a douche-nozzle pseudo-intellectual hipster who pretends not to be when people start making fun of him. At least have some integrity. Pathetic.

4/8/12

Toms are a hideous abortion of an unholy union between footwraps and african sandals; and are crocs' uglier cousin(s?). The only thing nastier to put on your feet is a fungus infection

More is good, all is better

4/9/12

OP, what's sad is that, not only are you not a hipster because an actual hipster would rather give herself a homemade lobotomy than admit to being a hipster, you're a want to be hipster. Why would you openly prescribe to that lifestyle? Hipsters are like bankers, they don't create anything and simply leach onto other people's creativity and hard work. Soon as whatever it is they're into isn't cool anymore, they move onto what is; and sooner or later have to try to save face when whatever it was the once thought was cool comes back in vogue, pretend like they where always into that thing, and flip-flop back in the vein of a John Kerry or Mitt Romney.

Why don't you just like the things you like, listen to the music you like and dress the way you like sans any bullshit sub-culture tag? Also, here's why you'll (likely) never be a banker. We had an intern last summer, who as far as anyone could tell, was a huge weirdo hipster. Dude wore thick frame glasses, overly tight khaki's with blue swede driving mocks everyday. Never rolled out with the lunch crew or shot the "frat-bar" style shit re: getting hammered, didn't care about anything sports related and more than likely is into bondage and S&M.

However, the guy could fucking crank. If had shitty project, even for an intern, he'd review it, nod his head he understood and it'd get done w/ no busts or issues. He's coming back this summer and is likely going to be a top bucket analyst sans his freak-show shit. This a job, not a social circle, don't think you get that. Nobody gives a fuck long as you're hot shit with your deliverables and don't make the team look bad.

4/9/12

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In reply to AndyLouis
4/9/12
AndyLouis:

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-04-03/wal...

The fame!!! Now I am too mainstream to be a hipster guys. :(

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In reply to DonVon
5/5/12
Vontropnats:
AndyLouis:

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-04-03/wal...

The fame!!! Now I am too mainstream to be a hipster guys. :(

movin on up man. you're a winner. gotta keep pushing.

"Everything comes to those who hustle while they wait."
-Thomas Edison

5/5/12

when you actually get a real job in finance and start working, you would be too tired to worry about this shit.

7/7/12

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In reply to Ravenous
10/21/12

This could be it, sweetheart.

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