High School Student Seeking Path Into Investment Banking

Hi Guy,

Im 16 years old nearly 17 and from Australia. I am wanting to study finance in America but I want to know the target universities I can get into with a 3.7 GPA and about a 1380 SAT score? Also would you recommend to do accounting as a subject rather than legal studies in my final year of high school?

Thanks

 

im assuming the 1380 is out of 1600 right? any chance you know what it is out of a 2400 scale? That being said, if you have a 3.7 / 4.0 unweighted and (im assuming here) a roughly 2000 SAT out of 2400 then id say schools like Notre Dame, UVA, St.Louis, Boston College are possible. I wouldn't expect Ivy admission but crazier things have happened.. here in the states you can get a perfect 4.0 unweighted in HS with 10 AP's and a 34 ACT and not get into any ivys (not exaggerating)

 

But you are missing one point: He is from Australia. Go apply to Ivy and play the "diversity card".

Don´t say this in a banking interview: Which superhero would you be and why? I want to be like Robin Hood, stealing from the rich and giving to the poor - me.
 

A while back I watched a video of some basic hoe (who was pretty hot) explain how she got into Stanford. She clearly wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed, but somehow did it. I'd suggest looking up the video (I'll post the link if I can find it). You need to find a way to not be too mechanical for the top school's process. And, just like the other poster, I'm thinking being from Australia will help. Go to the target schools.

 

Haha represent. 35 ACT, 9 AP, 4.0 gpa, deferred from Wharton. It's okay though, semi-targets aren't bad.

In hindsight I should've done more extracirriculars

 
<span itemprop=name>BatemanBatemanBateman</span>:

Harvard denies more perfect SAT scores than it accepts, every year.

It is NEVER (at any school at any level) as black/white as "you need X GPA and Y SAT scores with Z amount of extracurricular activities." It is all about the story you tell.

+1 because this applies largely to securing a job in banking as well as admissions at highly ranked colleges

 

Definitely do Accounting in high school. I'm a HS senior as well and I started learning accounting when in 9th grade. It is really the fundamentals and the language of business. It seems boring - debit, credits, accounts, etc. but it really helped me deepen my understanding of business concepts.

 

Thanks for your responses!!! I currently haven't taken the SAT but preparing for it. My tutor said I should get over 1380 easy, he is expecting me to get in the 1400's he told me this morning. My high school grades are currently:

Maths: A- English: B SOR: A- Business: A- Science 21: A (Changing from legal studies which is a B- to accounting which should be around a A-)

I just guessed around what my GPA would be because in Australia we do not calculate a GPA its just a report card you get every semester. So what you guys say my GPA is?

Finally, with those grades will I get a solid enough GPA and with a SAT in 1400's or just under what are the chances of getting into the ivies or universities like NYU and University of Chicago? My safety pick is going to be Vilanova University.

Thanks

 

UChicago denies more kids than most Ivys.

Girl I went to HS with had 35 ACT (1550 SAT), was president of national honors society, a senators page, year book editor in chief, etc. denied.

You can't just ask what schools you'll get in, it's really kinda a best fit once you get past the minimum academic requirements.

 

Sorry to break it to you, the only Aussies I’ve met at US target schools are athletic recruits. Unfortunately Aussies aren’t seen as diversity and generally academic requirements are a lot more stringent.

Scotch, Sydney Grammar, or Melbourne Grammar are the only schools that consistently get looks.

As for the Visa situation, you would go OPT to E3. The E3 is not an issue and is basically a guarantee from what I’ve heard vs the H1B lottery.

 

Don't listen to Lifestylemna, I know of plenty Australians/NZers who have made it to prestigious US schools without athletic recruiting. It's all about how you tell your story and show initiative in your community

 

Did some research - let me rephrase. It’s disproportionately difficult for 1) internationals and 2) internationals with no legacy or athletics, to get in top target schools.

Take Harvard as an example. 33 Australians in undergrad in total (I believe this double counts dual citizens). If OP is male, sample size goes down to 17. Quick look at their athletics site, 6 of the 17 are student athletes.

If we’re just playing the statistics game, 2% acceptance rate for internationals is skewed by 100% acceptance rates for student athletes, so the real rate is closer to 1%. This of course varies by school but means internationals have to be even more cream of the crop than Americans.

 

Did you try asking your brother or father for advice?

Actually, that's impractical. Never mind that.

To be honest, the B in Trigonometry pretty much precludes you from BB IBD. I know of one guy who recovered from a similar situation but I don't want to get your hopes up with one outlier. Did you have any luck during fall semester summer analyst recruitment?

 

You might want to reconsider IB if you're in it for the money. On an absolute basis you'll be paid very much, but on an hourly basis you aren't being paid very much. Frankly, you need to know that you can do the lifestyle, because you're essentially sacrificing a large part of your 20s. It's probably tough to really get a sense for what it feels like when you're 14, although that doesn't necessarily mean people don't make that sacrifice all the time.

If you were truly materialistic and open to anything (which you are at this point) a career in tech is probably better. Some of my buddies at tech firms, quant funds, etc. are pulling in a greater absolute salary, higher bonuses, more perks, and working less than my buddies in IB. If you're smart enough and do it right at a place like Jane Street, you'll be heads and shoulders above IB folks.

But maybe most importantly from what I know of people in the industry, chasing materialistic gains will probably only get you so far. I think you'll eventually be in the industry with very highly motivated people who have some modicum of passion for what they're doing, because people who aren't get burned out quick. From what I've seen in others, other things will become more important to you as you mature (e.g. relationships, family, making a positive impact in your community or family life at the very least, etc)

 

You're not gonna get rich banking. You're gonna be upper middle class for a while then kill yourself when you get fired one day and don't have a month of runway saved

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Enjoy high school while it lasts. Don't lose focus on getting good grades/putting yourself in a position for a top school, but have fun and be a high school kid. Revisit the career path in 4 years.

 

Right now, focus on getting your SAT as high as possible. Assuming you're minimum 1380, I would apply to about 5 targets, 2 semi-targets and a safety. Really look into what makes each school unique(special student investment fund, programs, unique curriculum, study abroad options, etc) and have a damn good story of why their school is a great fit. Once you get past a certain GPA and test score level(usually around 3.7 or 3.8+ and 1400+ for targets) it's all about your story, the fit and your essays/recs/ECs/work experience. Best of luck to you.

 

I've worked at two of the big 5 banks here in Toronto in IBD, and I can tell you I have never seen or heard of a single person from UofSask.

McGill has a strong placement here, as does UofT, Queens, Ivey, Schulich, Waterloo, and Laurier.

 

Would you say that McGill is considered the 3rd best IBD school in Canada? If not, what other schools would you recommend other than Ivey and QC of course. And, if you don't mind me asking, what school did you go to and how did you break in to IBD? Thanks,

 

I'm a current student, so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but from what I've heard from alumni, recruiters, and peers, Ivey/Queens is certainly your best bet. They're some of the harder schools to get into in Canada, so focus on making it there too.

Personally, I'd prefer Rotman/Schulich over Desautels, just because of the abundance of resources you're exposed to in Toronto as opposed to Montreal. Schulich is the cheaper option, if I recall correctly.

 

Focus right now should be on getting your average up to 95%+. That's pretty much essential for you to have a good shot at Queen's/Ivey, and can also set you up well for certain scholarships (things like Chancellor's from Queen's).

Not sure which year you're in, but if cost is a big factor, spend a lot of time in your last few years doing extracurriculars, and aim to do something that makes you stick out (ideally something community oriented, even if that's not exactly your thing) so you can apply for things like Loran/TD Ambassadors. (If you're at a public school Loran is easier to get nominated because you'll have less competition.) Those ECs will also help for scholarships from the universities, and you can drop them when you get to uni and take on more interesting activities then.

That's a quick overview of what you'll have to do. I came from a similar background to you, feel free to PM if you have any more questions.

(Realized I only spoke to Queen's/Ivey - UofT also tends to be good (though not as good) for recruiting to Toronto/NYC IBD, but there and anywhere else you'd have to be a top student to get looks for NYC and top quartile for Toronto IBD.)

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You can always go to USask in your first two years, get a super high GPA and then transfer into Ivey. Ivey is partnered with a few Canadian banks who offer Student Line of Credits of up to $30k a year with very low interest rates so financing your degree should not be that big of a problem.

Plus to get into IB you will need internships and you should be able to make a small amount of money from those as well.

 

Disclaimer: I was/am Canadian (dual citizen).

Like others have echoed here, make sure you kick ass academically, but given where you're at, I don't think you need anyone to tell you that, since you're doing so already. That's great news. Because as a high school student, no matter what you choose to do (or if your career aspirations change), a strong GPA will give a lot more options when it comes to college/university.

Secondly, if you're dead set on business, Ivey/Queen's over McGill, but not by a country mile. But in terms of overall rep beyond business, McGill is as good as it gets for undergrad, especially internationally (i.e. if you want the option of studying liberal arts, sciences, etc).

Some other Canadians on this board may be more current on the schools than I am, but these reputations haven't really changed in a long time. 25 years ago when I was in your shoes, the "top" Canadian universities seem to be the same as it is now -- Queen's, McGill and Toronto overall; for business, it's Queen's and Western (Ivey). And so forth. Maybe some subtle shifts here and there, but for the most part those subtleties don't make a big difference in the real world.

No matter what you choose between those three though (or even if you end up in business/finance/etc), I would strongly suggest you find a way to get out of Saskatchewan. As another poster mentioned, if the compromise is that you spend the first 2 years there, find a way to transfer out of there as soon as you can. In other words, if it's between SK and McGill, go to McGill. Do what it takes.

The reason being is simple. Your expectations, outlook and perspectives as a college student are heavily influenced by your peers. And simply put, at the east coast schools like Queen's, Ivey, McGill, or UofT, you're surrounded by peers and profs with a different view of the world than in Sask. This is regardless of whether you study business, or any other subject. You're around people from different backgrounds, with a more global view beyond Canada (with more of the grads who end up working/living outside of Canada, whether right after graduation, or shortly thereafter). Also, these 3 schools attract higher caliber kids, and as such, their expectations are higher - and that will more likely spill over into what you expect of yourself. If you think of it in hockey terms, you become a much better player by playing and competing against better players.

If you were content on settling down, then Sask. is probably fine. But it sounds like as a high school student, you already have big ambitions and dreams (again it may not be investment banking in the end, as those dreams change, but you have a lot of drive nonetheless). And you need to honor that ambition by putting yourself in the best position to do that.

I say this as a kid who spent time in Alberta during high school. I didn't know it at the time, but looking back, it was fucking awful. Closed. Provincially minded. Nice people (for the most part, although the rednecky attitudes back then were likely greater than they are now) - but there was a feeling of isolation from the rest of the world because of how provincially minded the place felt. And this wasn't small town Alberta, but Edmonton. One of the best decisions I ever made was to get the fuck out of there.

I didn't have the drive or ambition that you did in high school. I happened to have strong grades, and that saved me. I went to Queen's not having a clue about anything (applied and got into McGill, as well as Carleton for journalism), and looking back my time at Queen's was a game changer. Had I stayed in Alberta, I'd probably still be in Edmonton today - not unhappy, but a completely different (and likely more sheltered) life.

Amongst my friends from Queen's '96, quite a number of us spent years living and working abroad -- some of us stayed abroad, others came back to raise a family. But nonetheless, we scattered further and widened our perspectives that is a whole other level compared to what I'd imagine my high school classmates back in Edmonton would've done (I don't know for sure, but once I left, I never looked back, not because I didn't want to, but I had no reason to go back). Some even went back to Alberta, but as a different person (from what I know) that couldn't have happened had they remained in place.

Point is, my story is not unique for those of us who left. So is it worth the money?

You bet it is. Every cent. What you're buying is not a "job" or "recruiting" - you're investing in a broader, more ambitious and arguably better version of yourself.

Go.

Alex Chu www.mbaapply.com
 

I really appreciate your response. I have the same thoughts about Saskatchewan as you did about Alberta. I don't live in a small town ether, but the attitudes are still very close minded. When I talk about going to school out of town everyone in my family thinks I'm crazy. This is primarily because my Aunt borrowed a huge amount of money to to go to some film school in NYC and is now working a minimum wage job in Saskatoon and owes tons of money. This brings me to my question: What if I don't get accepted to any of the business programs I want. Would it be a good idea to major in Ecconomics? The entrance requirements are far lower than finance and I find it intellectually stimulating. I don't really want to get a PHD and I'm not sure what the job prospects would be post graduation. I would also consider running for public office in the future and feel like being "an economist" might help me out with that.

Finally, do you have any advice on how to meet equally, or ideally more, ambitious and driven people as a teenager. Every teenager I know doesn't know have a clue what their going to do in the future, and frankly, they don't care.

Thanks alot

 

Podcasts:
- Bloomberg Deal of the Week
- The Vampire Squid

As you progress start also watching CNBC and Bloomberg

Easy ways to read about current deals:
- Seeking Alpha
- Morning Brew

As you progress you should start picking up the WSJ and DealBook

Easy way to learn the technicals:
- get fucked
- read the WSO guide
- refer to Investment Banking by Rosenbaum and Pearl

 

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Sounds like you got a lot to learn kid, good thing you're thinking about your career this early (I think?), but for now, just worry on trying to get into the best college you can (i.e. not Creighton). You may find that you want to do something completely different in a few years, just go to the best college you can get into that you also think you'll enjoy.

Just so you know, you mentioned MBA, IF you did decide to go get an MBA, it would be in about 10 years from now...Focus on the here and now.

 
JeffSkilling:
Sounds like you got a lot to learn kid, good thing you're thinking about your career this early (I think?), but for now, just worry on trying to get into the best college you can (i.e. not Creighton). You may find that you want to do something completely different in a few years, just go to the best college you can get into that you also think you'll enjoy.

Just so you know, you mentioned MBA, IF you did decide to go get an MBA, it would be in about 10 years from now...Focus on the here and now.

ahh alright, well i'm taking the ACT next month, and probably the SAT in august, with lots of AP classes, if all goes well i can end with a 3.7 GPA. But would being a research analyst in a smaller or local firm make anywhere near the amount of money as working for a BB? (adjusted for cost of living Omaha, Ne compared to NYC)

 

See if W.E.B. will give you a job.

You can probably get a job out of Creighton, but you'll likely have to hustle. Lots of networking and calling people. I don't know if many finance firms will come to you. Maybe the Chicago market would be more open to someone coming out of Creighton? Have you considered any other geographies? Could you get into like a Northwestern or Univ. of Chicago in Chicago? Think Indiana has a good/fairly well respected in finance community program, but that's a little farther.

 
bankbank:
See if W.E.B. will give you a job.

You can probably get a job out of Creighton, but you'll likely have to hustle. Lots of networking and calling people. I don't know if many finance firms will come to you. Maybe the Chicago market would be more open to someone coming out of Creighton? Have you considered any other geographies? Could you get into like a Northwestern or Univ. of Chicago in Chicago? Think Indiana has a good/fairly well respected in finance community program, but that's a little farther.

From what i'm seeing i could probably get into UI-bloomington, U of Chicago might be a bit of a stretch, and kind of looking to stay in the midwest, but if i went anywhere, would prefer to be Seattle/Portland/ Pacific Northwest if there is any good business schools up there

 

1- you need to get into as good a school as possible

2- no one gives a shit about an MSF from Kansas or Tulsa, you might as well get an associates degree from your local community college; you must be thinking of an MBA, which is often what people sometimes use to springboard into an investment banking-esque career from non-traditional backgrounds. You'd need an MBA from a top 10 Business School (e.g. Harvard, Stanford, Wharton, Columbia, Yale, Dartmouth, UChicago, UVA, Duke).

Also, don't listen to the douche bags who say "you should only be worried about getting laid and doing drugs, come back in 3 years." They themselves became competitive banking candidates by holing up in their rooms and studying all day and playing world of war craft all night.

Also, start networking your ass off... start now.

 
Marcus_Halberstram:
#1- you need to get into as good a school as possible

2- no one gives a shit about an MSF from Kansas or Tulsa, you might as well get an associates degree from your local community college; you must be thinking of an MBA, which is often what people sometimes use to springboard into an investment banking-esque career from non-traditional backgrounds. You'd need an MBA from a top 10 Business School (e.g. Harvard, Stanford, Wharton, Columbia, Yale, Dartmouth, UChicago, UVA, Duke).

Also, don't listen to the douche bags who say "you should only be worried about getting laid and doing drugs, come back in 3 years." They themselves became competitive banking candidates by holing up in their rooms and studying all day and playing world of war craft all night.

Also, start networking your ass off... start now.

Hahahahahaha that is so funny yet true., every thread asking for investment advice turns into spend it on blow, hookers, and bottle service coming from guys that have done neither of those options and who would consider investing their pocket change if it was feasible.
 
Marcus_Halberstram:
Also, don't listen to the douche bags who say "you should only be worried about getting laid and doing drugs, come back in 3 years." They themselves became competitive banking candidates by holing up in their rooms and studying all day and playing world of war craft all night.

Awesome! So true that it is almost funny.

"Rage, rage against the dying of the light." - DT
 

so from what you guys are saying, i should be looking at getting an MBA? It wouldn't be smart to first get an undergrad in finance at creighton then try and work for a local (omaha) firm or maybe trying to get into a KC/Chicago/Minneapolis firm and depending on the location, get an MBA from another university?

I'm trying to stay local for Undergrad then move somewhere for grad/job market.

 

But seriously, if you want to go to schools in the midwest look at an Indiana or Michigan as they place extremely well in finance. One of the most underlooked at things when choosing a school is geography and it matters so much. Going to a school in or around a big city provides internship/networking ops that simply wouldnt be available in a place like Omaha.

 

don't go to Creighton. It is private (so you will probably be paying a good amount to go there) and getting a job in IB is a shot in the dark with a degree from there. I think you'd have a better shot at going IB out of the University of Nebraska, simply because their alumni network will be far wider.

 
southernstunna:
don't go to Creighton. It is private (so you will probably be paying a good amount to go there) and getting a job in IB is a shot in the dark with a degree from there. I think you'd have a better shot at going IB out of the University of Nebraska, simply because their alumni network will be far wider.
I'd disagree with this statement. I'm currently a senior Finance & Economics major at Creighton. I'm likely going to graduate school for a year, continuing with the CFA (level 2), and then entering IB. So, I know CU doesnt have the best connections to IB and its not a target school. But.. if you go in with that goal of working in IB and work towards getting an IB internship early, then by graduation you wont be looking at a "shot in the dark" if you have social skills and a solid resume.

Creighton is actually #21 in the US for their finance program and they do a great job of teaching CFA material. Definitely try and find a school that fits YOU best, but between UNL and Creighton the quality of education is just so much better at Creighton.

 

If you're really that gung ho about getting into investment banking (or some Wall Street job), BUST ASS. Get into the best school you can -- Chicago, Northwestern, or if you're willing to venture out of the midwest, schools like UVA, NYU, or even some of the Ivies.

Saying you want to just settle for Creighton (with no disrespect to Creighton) is sort of like a high school basketball player wanting to play in the NBA one day, but for some reason won't target a D-1 college.

Put it this way. Getting into a top undergrad that is a target school for Wall Street recruiting is easier than trying to get a Wall Street job from a non-target. By lowering your expectations for college, you end up making it harder on yourself to get that job you want longer-term.

You still have time. Work your ass off and get top grades and SATs.

Alex Chu www.mbaapply.com
 
MBAApply:
If you're really that gung ho about getting into investment banking (or some Wall Street job), BUST ASS. Get into the best school you can -- Chicago, Northwestern, or if you're willing to venture out of the midwest, schools like UVA, NYU, or even some of the Ivies.

Saying you want to just settle for Creighton (with no disrespect to Creighton) is sort of like a high school basketball player wanting to play in the NBA one day, but for some reason won't target a D-1 college.

Put it this way. Getting into a top undergrad that is a target school for Wall Street recruiting is easier than trying to get a Wall Street job from a non-target. By lowering your expectations for college, you end up making it harder on yourself to get that job you want longer-term.

You still have time. Work your ass off and get top grades and SATs.

I see what you're saying, if i bust ass im thinking i can get a 32 on the ACT, then i'll probably take SAT in the fall, just so schools see i can do good on both? but yeah i'll definitely be busting it to get into a great Undergrad, then go analyst for 2 years then maybe mba then associate then maybe move into pe/vc back in omaha

 
happypantsmcgee:
This is my advice:

Don't let this become your life: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_r_5oXcAhE&NR=1

Work hard, enjoy college, drink, fuck and make friends.

yeah man i gotcha, been partyin it up all year this year, gonna do it all summer then try and cut back senior year so it doesnt mess with my grades. thats mainly why i'm looking at a big state school with a good b school, that way i can live it up with the guys that just barely made it into UT/Indiana/Michigan/UNC. I see what you're sayin, work hard, play harder. haha

 

I initially assumed this was a troll post, but, in the case it isn't, I figured I'd offer some more useful advice:

1) Don't worry about this stuff right now. 2) Not from outside U.S., but doubt you need to take U.S. college exams to work at a bank in the U.S. 3) That said, it's likely easier to get recruited by a U.S. bank if you attend a U.S. University. Places tend to have a group of schools that they actively recruit from, with geography playing a major role.

 

Thank you for the advice!! ^^ I see your logic with the banks hiring at certain schools, however it's not to say that if I become exceptional and go to the Canadians best business school {Rotman's school of Management} who have connections with the U.S I could find a job just find ;) I plan on going very far and dreaming very big, I have a very long and hard road ahead of me .

 

If you want to work on Wall Street out of Canada, there are only three choices to optimize your chances. In order: Ivey, Queens, McGill. If you try UBC/Rotman or others, you really need to stand out immensely. McGill and Ivey seem to be the best at placing in the USA/Europe. Queens seems to have the edge with Bay Street (Toronto).

 

Wasn't going to respond, but I'll just say this: don't go to Rotman. In fact, don't go anywhere outside Ivey, Queen's, McGill, or UBC. In fact, don't even go anywhere other than Ivey unless you are confident you can get into the investment funds at Queen's, UBC, and McGill. If you can get into those investment funds, or do well in your first term at Ivey, then you can get a BB junior internship (or some pe roles as well).

It's not rocket science. However, what I've found is that those who end up with these BB roles tend to be well rounded. When you do a commerce program everyone is going to look (roughly) the same. Being able to form cohesive sentences, being well read (outside of finance), and being someone those interviewing you would generally like to be around are the differentiating factors. Work on being holistically intelligent, not whether or not you can do a DCF at 17 because no one cares and it most certainly won't be a differentiating factor when you're interviewing at 20/21.

 

Ok that is some very good advice ^^ I do read in my spare time at the moment and I see the value in being a proficient writer, so I should start writing on my own time and creating essay subjects.

 

Whatever you do, please don't apply to rotman. It has horrible grade deflation and its recruiting for finance related roles is very poor. It does churn out quite a few accountants, although waterloo might be a better bet.

McGill's HIM is pretty impressive, and places well into the buyside. UBC is not great (have friends studying there), but its PMF program places fairly well regionally. That said, Ivey and Queens are your best bets.

Anyways take the advice of the experienced monkeys out here - Just relax and enjoy your teenage years

 

I'll give you the same advice I give every high schooler:

  1. the number one thing you can control right now is the quality of the university you attend. make the right decision here. can't say more than that, I don't know your financial situation or anything about Canada.

  2. don't do something that affects you permanently you will regret: DUI, drug charge, knock up a chick, get a face tattoo

  3. have fun, you have 8 years to fuck around (high school & college), and 40 years to worry about work, don't waste it. the difference between a 3.7 and 3.8 GPA won't be worth the fun you'll have at parties the night before an exam/presentation. once you pass the checked boxes of GPA and experience, it's all social in interviews and in the workforce.

 

Ahahaha I party don't worry, but it's gets to be the same lol, I understand to also have fun, but I Struggle with girls lol it's not that easy to get laid in highschool, well atleast it seems girls simply only go for the hotter guys, confidence and personality mean jack shit unless your funny which I'm working on. I kinda am taking a break, the girl I tried for is going for some other guy...

 

Happens to all of us. Seems like we could be witnessing the making of a body builder right here..

Focus on school, but also do stuff you enjoy. I made (and still am) the mistake of just being focused on school and it really takes a toll on you..

 

why am i trolling you buddy? lol hahaha that's pretty funny cause i actually happened to be 16 years old, look up my accounts on Instagram of Facebook and DM me a message and i'll respond. This situation is real.... kindve weird you think im trolling or am fake.

 

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March 2024 Investment Banking

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  • Goldman Sachs 19 98.8%
  • Harris Williams & Co. (++) 98.3%
  • Lazard Freres 02 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 03 97.1%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

March 2024 Investment Banking

  • Harris Williams & Co. 18 99.4%
  • JPMorgan Chase 10 98.8%
  • Lazard Freres 05 98.3%
  • Morgan Stanley 07 97.7%
  • William Blair 03 97.1%

Professional Growth Opportunities

March 2024 Investment Banking

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  • Jefferies & Company 02 98.8%
  • Goldman Sachs 17 98.3%
  • Moelis & Company 07 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 05 97.1%

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March 2024 Investment Banking

  • Director/MD (5) $648
  • Vice President (19) $385
  • Associates (86) $261
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (13) $181
  • Intern/Summer Associate (33) $170
  • 2nd Year Analyst (66) $168
  • 1st Year Analyst (202) $159
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (144) $101
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