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GoldenCinderblock: "I keep spending all my money on exotic fish so my armor sucks. Is it possible to romance multiple females? I got with the blue chick so far but I am also interested in the electronic chick and the face mask chick."
 

Basically, I just internalize being a cocky piece of shit. I just convince myself that I'm better than anyone else, and that I'm untouchable. Might be a tad bit sociopathic, but it works for me.

Also, I bump that new T. Swift.

 

Have you considered going to sell-side equity research to get to a HF? Although not as beaten a path as IB--->HF, you can definitely get to a HF through sell-side research and the work is much more similar to HF work than IB is. ER also places well into mutual funds/asset management, if that interests you also.

 

I read in another thread you are going to an elite boutique. I am going into IB because I am genuinely interested in it. I don't think I could if I wasn't. If you don't mind me asking, why are you going into it if you're not interested? Money and exit ops? How did you feel during your internship/what will you do to get through the 2 years? Genuinely curious.

 

Not a bad observation. Think the way that people deal with anger is very different. I definitely thrive when angry, sounds like you do as well. But others tend to shut down and it actually makes them far less productive than otherwise - IMO this is most women. Maybe there is some difference between the way that men and women react to anger?

Not even going to lie, most of the super successful (self-made) entrepreneurs I know worked harder than anyone else to make it - basically to throw it in someones face, whether it be unsupportive parents, peers or otherwise. Point is, anger can definitely be one of the most powerful motivators out there.

 
iRX:
Not a bad observation. Think the way that people deal with anger is very different. I definitely thrive when angry, sounds like you do as well. But others tend to shut down and it actually makes them far less productive than otherwise - IMO this is most women. Maybe there is some difference between the way that men and women react to anger?

Not even going to lie, most of the super successful (self-made) entrepreneurs I know worked harder than anyone else to make it - basically to throw it in someones face, whether it be unsupportive parents, peers or otherwise. Point is, anger can definitely be one of the most powerful motivators out there.

In The Flesh:
Great for the gym or for certain types of concerts. Not for anything else in work or life, in my opinion.

Agree 100% with this. But in the long run you must try to let the anger go otherwise it will break you.

 

Rage is more useful than despair. However, it's not sustainable and the emotion eventually wears off leading to bitterness and fatigue. Fatigue makes cowards of us all. Decision making beyond that point is insanity.

Use anger in a crisis, but know when to fold it up and put it away.

In the long term, being realistic and consistently putting effort into something worthwhile is where I'm choosing think.

Get busy living
 

Anger drove me for a good five or six years in my early 20's. There were days all I thought about was how I was going to fuck over the people who stood in my way when I finally made it. I was the master of disproportionate response back then. If you did something that cost me a grand, I'd try to set you up to lose your house. My thinking was that if I developed that reputation people would be too scared to come at me. In a lot of ways it worked.

I'm not advocating rage, but it sure worked for me.

 

I think my best motivator is guilt. When I am hungover I am the most productive person I will ever be. Saturday morning extremely hung? Sure I'll do the dishes, clean up, vacuum, do my laundry, go buy groceries and cook. If I had stayed in the night before? None of that will get done. So either guilt or being hungover, not sure which, probably both.

This to all my hatin' folks seeing me getting guac right now..
 
Cruncharoo:
I think my best motivator is guilt. When I am hungover I am the most productive person I will ever be. Saturday morning extremely hung? Sure I'll do the dishes, clean up, vacuum, do my laundry, go buy groceries and cook. If I had stayed in the night before? None of that will get done. So either guilt or being hungover, not sure which, probably both.

This is absolutely insane, I am beyond impressed... you must have some magical power or something.

 
In The Flesh:
Great for the gym or for certain types of concerts. Not for anything else in work or life, in my opinion.

True. My ex is a typical type-A, once he had a heated argument with another guy, and that guy literally threw a laptop out of the window of the office on the 21/F. Then my ex realized that losing temperament at work would only make one look like a bipolar psycho. He went to gym since then.

The Auto Show
 

It's beyond frustrating to get anything done in the morning here smoothly, so i go to the gym at lunch and come back refreshed and stuff.

I have a pretty hot temper to begin with, but definitely agree going to the gym when you're pissed off is a great release

I eat success for breakfast...with skim milk
 

My old boss was a strong believer in fear. Every cycle he would hire 3 new employees (even though we were the best group in our market. He would tell you those 3 new employees were going to replace 3 of you so don’t be the ones replaced. Then he would remind you of that fact at least twice a day. I remember being so worried for the first couple of times and watching great analyst being fired just to keep the fear level up. I finally became angry at the guy and worked my ass off to get my stats up for my MBA. So anger and fear are great motivators but I would argue they only work temporarily and the turnover is very high. The group eventually collapsed and merged with a bigger group and the manager was laid-off (karma).

 

It depends imo. For pretty much all athletic endeavors I'd say yes. As far as professionally, I'd say only if you're an athlete or entrepreneur (again imo). Besides those, I see no reason why anger would make you better, but several why it would make you worse. I'm sure if you had an interview/ meeting and the first thing you said was "can we make this fast, I'm having an awful day and am pissed off" it'd go splendid. Yet that same attitude would make you power through any type of work, a gym sesh, a study sesh, etc. You just wouldn't come off very pleasantly in the process, which at the end of the day is all that matters (unless you're an athlete or entrepreneur.... full circle).

Also, "But in the long run you must try to let the anger go otherwise it will break you"- this. In MOST cases anger is productive, in ALL cases it is unsustainable.

GBS
 

I don't think anger leads to great productivity, generally, I think the opposite is true. I do think that just about every successful person I know has a chip on their shoulder/something to prove about something. That is a very long-term motivation for a lot of people.

 
SirTradesaLot:
I don't think anger leads to great productivity, generally, I think the opposite is true. I do think that just about every successful person I know has a chip on their shoulder/something to prove about something. That is a very long-term motivation for a lot of people.

So true dude, so true.

“...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” - Schopenhauer
 

@"Ron Paul" definitely has a good point; that is probably the best long term motivator. In the short run, I think anger helps more, but many people are prone to burn out quickly.

"It's very easy to have too many goals and be overwhelmed by them... The trick is to find the one thing you can focus on that represents every other single thing you want in life." -- @"Edmundo Braverman"
 

Anger can be a destructive emotion. It can make you do stupid things, disregard risks, give away advantage and alienate/hurt your support groups, relationships and people who care about you and who can be useful to you.

That said, it probably makes sense to acknowledge the fact that you are angry and to try to understand why you are feeling so and think about how you can better position yourself/deal with your situation. Think more than one step ahead. Don't just react, be proactive and deliberate instead.

I know this is general, but we don't know if you're angry because of bullying at work, being mugged or because the girl you like decided to go for the sleazy guy instead of you.

 
Relinquis:
Anger can be a destructive emotion. It can make you do stupid things, disregard risks, give away advantage and alienate/hurt your support groups, relationships and people who care about you and who can be useful to you.

That said, it probably makes sense to acknowledge the fact that you are angry and to try to understand why you are feeling so and think about how you can better position yourself/deal with your situation. Think more than one step ahead. Don't just react, be proactive and deliberate instead.

I know this is general, but we don't know if you're angry because of bullying at work, being mugged or because the girl you like decided to go for the sleazy guy instead of you.

I largely concur--let off steam if you have to, but then wise up.

Metal. Music. Life. www.headofmetal.com
 

In my opinion, there's a big difference between being angry because someone offended your pride, which can be HIGHLY constructive, and being angry because something stupid happened to you like you dented your car or broke your new iPad, etc. The latter would probably just put you in a bad mood.

We are prideful animals. The harder someone knocks your ego, the harder it'll knock back.

People tend to think life is a race with other people. They don't realize that every moment they spend sprinting towards the finish line is a moment they lose permanently, and a moment closer to their death.
 

Well I mean, it can be the best motivator, if you wanna be, I dunno, a serial killer. Or batman. But for most things, I think enjoying what youre doing/having passion for it, or wanting to better yourself might be more straightforward if nothing else.

“...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” - Schopenhauer
 

I agree with OP that anger is a big motivator in the gym. However, in our daily lives we burn out quickly when we are always angry. I like this study below which shows that "aggressive," i.e. angry, films increase 3RM squats MORE than all other types*. The problem with the aggressive/angry films is that they increase the stress hormone cortisol which can cause burnouts. I would venture to guess that the watching the erotic films, who also showed a big increase in the 3RM, would preform better in a long workout. This is why when I'm at the gym I close my eyes and think about what I did the night before. Life is like a distance race be the tortoise and not the hare.

"It's very easy to have too many goals and be overwhelmed by them... The trick is to find the one thing you can focus on that represents every other single thing you want in life." -- @"Edmundo Braverman"
 

Aggression can often be helpful, if you can control it. Just make sure its not irascibility, because that will be detrimental to whatever you do.

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Cosimo de' Medici:

I just go to relieve stress, chill out, and listen to music. These are things I don't typically do throughout the day so...

That's pretty much it...after while you'll realize how much better you'll feel and then it just becomes a habit.

I'm talking about liquid. Rich enough to have your own jet. Rich enough not to waste time. Fifty, a hundred million dollars, buddy. A player. Or nothing. See my Blog & AMA
 

If you can get yourself to start hitting the gym regularly, you will hit a point where you will feel like crap unless you go to the gym.

I personally get moody now if I don't hit the gym at least once over a 2-3 day period.

It helps to have a gym buddy though. I used to work out with a friend all the time in college and we could motivate each other to go. On the days I didn't feel like going or didn't feel like doing an extra set, having someone else to rely on is great. The competition is great too, few things are more humiliating than having to pull weights off the bench that your friend was just on when it is your turn to do a set.

 

I just run everyday. Usually around 10 miles, it gives me a couple of hours just to myself, otherwise the entire day is filled with emails from idiots.

Follow the shit your fellow monkeys say @shitWSOsays Life is hard, it's even harder when you're stupid - John Wayne
 

Grow a pair? Dude if you can't stay motivated enough to get through recruiting season how do you ever plan to work the long hours and motivate to excel in your job. Recruiting is the most exciting part of the whole process.

 

How about graduating with no job, moving back to your parents' basement and working a McJob?

People need motivation help to find a job these days? No wonder our country is going down the crapper.

 
TechBanking:
How about graduating with no job, moving back to your parents' basement and working a McJob?

People need motivation help to find a job these days? No wonder our country is going down the crapper.

I don't think this post was meant to give people motivation to find a job, I'd say most people on here are ambitious and hustle hard. Today's job market is miserable and ones outlook can become pretty dismal after going through dozens of interviews to no avail. Interviewing is an ego-bruising process, it's good to have some motivation to sack up and push forward after interview #25.

just my .02

 

Well I can really relate. It's tempting to just settle for that gov analyst job. Especially with all the talk about how hard the job market on wall street is.

I think its a problem some people have in spades. Just naturally. When dealing with a stressful problem- some people either "fight" or "flight". Flight, of course, is easy- and some people are just prone to do the easy thing. They can rationalize that 2nd tier gov job- maybe procrastinate and say I'll try to break into Finance again later.

The other problem is people who have a certain mindset of win or lose with no middle ground. The poster above paints a stark picture: success or living with parents and working at McD. It's incorrect- but it helps. It's incorrect to stress out about that B that will lower your GPA from a 3.5 to a 3.45- but it helps.

In conclusion, its intrinsic. And if you aren't this way naturally- then you're pretty much at a major disadvantage in life. Adderall ain't gonna help with motivation- neither will Prozac if you're not legitimately depressed. You just have to want it bad enough and consistently enough.

 

Guys, if I'm not mistaken, by motivation he means fighting through the disappointment/impatience/uncertainty etc. of watching others interview. I don't think he meant it as some mopey emo pondering life, etc.

3 makes me think of Robert Caro's LBJ books such as Master of the Senate. Damn thing must be 90,000 pages but talk about a networker.

 

What I like to is to stay positive. Believe it or not your attitude does determine your altitude. Throughout the years I have gotten knocked down but I have always got up. One of my mentors told me this:

"I have a $100, Do you want it? " Well of course I said yes. Then he took it and he crumbled it and he asked me again if still wanted it. Of course I still said yes. He threw the bill on the floor and step on it and asked me again if I still wanted it. Of course I said yes.

Then he told me no matter what I did to the money, you still wanted it because it did not decrease in value. It was still worth $100. Many times in our lives, we are dropped, crumpled, and ground into the dirt by the decisions we make and the circumstances that come our way. We feel as though we are worthless. But no matter what has happened or what will happen, you will never lose your value. Dirty or clean, crumpled or finely creased, you are still priceless to those who DO LOVE you. The worth of our lives comes not in what we do or who we know, but by WHO WE ARE. You are Special-Don't EVER forget it.

I never forgot that. I always think back to what he said.

Also take a look at the secret documentary.

When luck shuts the door you gotta come in through the window - Doyle Brunson
 

What I like to is to stay positive. Believe it or not your attitude does determine your altitude. Throughout the years I have gotten knocked down but I have always got up. One of my mentors told me this:

"I have a $100, Do you want it? " Well of course I said yes. Then he took it and he crumbled it and he asked me again if still wanted it. Of course I still said yes. He threw the bill on the floor and step on it and asked me again if I still wanted it. Of course I said yes.

Then he told me no matter what I did to the money, you still wanted it because it did not decrease in value. It was still worth $100. Many times in our lives, we are dropped, crumpled, and ground into the dirt by the decisions we make and the circumstances that come our way. We feel as though we are worthless. But no matter what has happened or what will happen, you will never lose your value. Dirty or clean, crumpled or finely creased, you are still priceless to those who DO LOVE you. The worth of our lives comes not in what we do or who we know, but by WHO WE ARE. You are Special-Don't EVER forget it.

I never forgot that. I always think back to what he said.

Also take a look at the secret documentary.

When luck shuts the door you gotta come in through the window - Doyle Brunson
 

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