How to get the MD to push your resume

Mod Note (Andy): You can read his ongoing Q&A here: "BB Operations MD Q&A"

We all know that the best person to push your resume for a internship at a BB is the MD. We have a high amount of authority and really can get someone in who might have less than stellar experience or some mediocre state school and/or poor grades.

How you want to convince the MD starts with the introduction of yourself. Make sure your linkedin and resume are solid (ie wear a suit in your profile picture) and check for any discrepancies between what you put on your resume and linkedin profile. Create a template cold-email and send it off to a couple analysts first to test the waters. I highly recommend you befriend someone who is a English major to help with any issues you didn't catch when you made the template. Try to send emails to the MD who has a common interest or affiliation.

Once you have set up a time and day to talk or meet you can start practicing what you would like to ask. Don't ask obscure questions or irrelevant questions that don't relate to their job or interests. You can have a cheat sheet if you are on the phone so you won't go off topic. You can also add simple reminders for any technicals you know that may surprise the MD who may not think you know as much yet.

When the call is over you should email them periodically (ie not every 2 days) to keep them updated and/or interested with how things are going. I don't want someone to network with me and then email/call me 6 or more months later asking for a job.

Read about how to be persuasive and friendly to people of authority and don't act in awe of the MD. We're just like everyone else you will ever meet. Unless the MD is a complete tool I don't think feeding his ego will work. NEVER lie to a MD. Doing this is probably the easiest way for me never to speak to you again. It's one thing to stretch your experience but if you put investment experience on your resume but can't explain p/e ratios you will be finished by the MD.

When recruiting season comes up and you just applied for the BB internship online, try to play dumb and ask the MD if he knows anyone who can push your resume for the spot. If you've already known him for a while it will make things much easier. He will probably push your resume for you if there's a solid connection.

(PS: Cold-calling for local firms will work better. They're more likely to be excited that you're interested in them.)

 

Thanks for your reply. I can't see this as something that will happen frequently enough though? For example, for me the only relevant new role I have taken on this year is joining an investment club on campus. However this is something I've already brought up during networking calls. Even with your example, that is only a once-a-year affair. Can someone really keep getting new roles or awards at intervals of 6 months or less?

 

I Believe conversations should be about giving and receiving value, in any kind of form. i usually get along with middle aged men (less with young analysts for some reason) but still don't see how i could bring them value beyond 10 min of having them feel good about their career. I remember trying this with one from an elite boutique, ended up mentioning his divorce... that was awkward. So you'd need to have some really decent ties with the man to pull this off. Race/Religion/Home town/sports/strong cultural interest..

 

Seems like he hooked you up, somewhat (giving himself as a reference - assuming he doesn't just do that for anyone, and HR sees it as nothing special). It also depends on how the phone call went. Did it end with him genuinely liking/being interested in you, or was it more of a 'yea yea let me send your stuff to someone else who has time for this' kind of ending? I'd give it a little longer than 3 days, especially considering things generally get slower and take longer to get done in the summer. And assuming they're not in immediate/desperate need for a hire, I doubt it's high on the priority list. I'd say definitely not a bad thing though.

 

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By the sounds of it you already positioned yourself and you're having second thoughts. Don't look backward, you aren't going that way.

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I think this is a tricky request on the side of the receiver. Network better. First you need to identify exactly what you want. Next you identify who you should approach. Research that person.

For example, if you have to speak with the head of real estate at Target because you are a real estate IB, you have to think constructively how you achieve that. Sometimes, you can just call the switchboard and they transfer you right away. Sometimes, your bank's brand name is strong so that they will just pick up your call. But, most of the time, you have to think a bit about how you can put your foot in the door.

This skill will be useful once you pass the associate stage or go into sales in IBD.

 

Yeah, Illini is right... they send you an email making sure you've applied on the website etc... it typically means that you'll get an interview... It isn't a guarantee but it's usually the way things go. They typically say something like "We will be in touch with next steps..." I've only had this email come through once without it being followed up with an interview scheduling, and this was after I had already received and accepted an offer elsewhere, so I hadn't really followed up with HR and most likely slipped through the cracks...

Best of luck and hopefully the interview comes through and you kill it!

 

It is generally company policy that all applications be handled through HR. Probably has to do with making sure everybody gets a 'fair' chance at applying vs the old days, when you can just hand someone a resume, and get a call directly

Regarding the MD

Either two things:

  1. Yes, as soon as your name comes up through their database, HR will contact you. THAT is if the MD really mentioned your name, and told HR (or hiring manager) to put your name in the pool of 'Oks' for the first round.

  2. The MD might have just been trying to be nice to you, and in a tactful way, directed to you what the official application process was without actually telling HR that you are to be on the 'list'. Which in that case, you are competing with everyone else.

Hopefully its the former, but latter is also very possible. Keep us posted on how it goes.

 

Another group might be looking for a full time analyst and he is passing your resume along.

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Probably passing your resume around. Get a public review before sending him the resume.

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Thanks for the responses guys! My MD says it's not a rush and he's out until next week. This gives me some time to polish it up over the weekend. I'll definitely pass it around first. (@FailedPrayer, thanks for the offer, but I'm not sure about uploading my resume yet...)

Regarding the things on my resume at my current internship, should I tone it down, add more details, or leave out certain parts... anything on that front?

 
Firebreaker7:

Thanks for the responses guys! My MD says it's not a rush and he's out until next week. This gives me some time to polish it up over the weekend. I'll definitely pass it around first. (@FailedPrayer, thanks for the offer, but I'm not sure about uploading my resume yet...)

Regarding the things on my resume at my current internship, should I tone it down, add more details, or leave out certain parts... anything on that front?

You can upload it on razume and block out the private/personal information (bank names, contact info, etc.).

Definitely highlight the more important things, such as extracurriculars where you made an impact or internships where you did deal work, etc.

 

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