How to interview after starting new job?
Does anyone have experience or advice on how to interview for another job once you have started a new gig? I start working in a couple weeks but am still looking for a better job. Is there an easy way to do this so that your current employer does not hate you?
Maybe it is better to wait a few months and give the place a shot before mongering around?
I would be interested in this as well.
Nothing about interviewing would be different than normal other than the fact that you need to have a good response ready on why you are already planning on moving after having been at a new place for a few weeks. That's going to be your biggest obstacle as most other firms will assume you will do the same to them if something "bigger and better" comes along.
You're SOL on your new employer hating you and burning bridges there.
Interview at lunch if possible. Also, your current employer is gonna hate you for jumping ship so fast.
loyalty is overrated, do what you have to do....I agree it may piss some people off but you have to look out for #1.
GL
thanks victoria, good info there
When I was doing it at my old firm, I scheduled all my interviews at 8am, or 5pm. So for the few days where I would come 30mins late, or leave an hour early, it was no big deal.
While this seems pretty straight-forward... wouldn't this make things a little difficult on your interviewers? I mean, what if they say "we're looking to bring you in on a 1st round interview, you'll be meeting with 3 people, it should take about an an hour and a half, etc." Wouldn't your interviewers kind of be annoyed they may have to stay late one night and interview someone to accommodate him? I feel like this may indirectly ruin your chances because it gives the interviewers a reason to start the interview off in a foul mood.
I find that 'experienced hire' interviews are far less structured and afford the interviewee much more flexibility. I never had a problem with interviewers being annoyed.
agree with Something Creative. your biggest obstacle isnt your employer or when to schedule interviews, its explaining why you are looking so soon after accepting a position. you don't want to be branded a job hopper.
Thanks for the info everyone
Interviewing while on the Job (Originally Posted: 10/09/2006)
How did you guys do it? Doesn't a 8am to 2am job eliminate the possibility of interviewing somewhere else?
How did you guys do it?
there is always lunch hour, just tell your buddies that you need to run an errand
Excellent question.
I can usually roll in at 9-9:30, so I've tried to snag 8 am interviews (if people are in the office that early) and be in a little later than normal. Otherwise you just have to bite the bullet and take a long afternoon (or an entire day if you get asked to come back for the super round).
Be creative with your excuses. There's always being sick--but I've heard apartment hunting, magazine photoshoot, lunch with a foreign diplomat, charity work (I don't recommend this one...pretty sleazy to throw poor people under the bus).
Fact is, unless you tell people outright that you're interviewing, they have little documented evidence against you with which to cut you out of a deserved bonus. Just pray that you aren't stuck with a vindictive comp committee.
do analysts have any time to go for dental and medical checkups?
the question is whether they can drag themselves from flight sim and solitaire to leave the office
Finding time to interview while employed (Originally Posted: 04/01/2010)
How do analysts find time to interview for other positions? I have a 3~4 interviews lined up but I would feel like my group would get suspicious if I started taking a lot of sick days...
I tried to reschedule outside of work hours but not possible.
Spread them out as much as possible, and vary the excuses like doctor appointment, long lunch break, going to the gym (only if you do this regularly), etc. There's not much else you can do.
People are going to figure you out. If you're looking for another job, and people refuse to meet you after work or on the weekends, your secret isn't going to remain that way for long.
As suggested, try to plan them in advance, ask to have the interviews on Mondays/Fridays so you can ask for a long weekend, and use your holiday time accordingly. You can 'go to the doctor' once. You can 'go to the dentist' once. You can take a sick day once. You can have a friend/relative 'unexpectedly' come into the city once.
If you are a salesman/relationship manager/anyone with client contact, you can say you're going to meet a client for a long lunch/coffee/drink/early dinner.
If you're an analyst/associate in M&A, no one is going to miss you in you're gone for an hour or two, but they may wonder where you are if you're absent all day.
If you're a trader, you're going to have a rough time. In this case, when your boss asks you where you're going, just tell him you're going to bang his wife/daughter (depending on how old he is), and they 'need the dick now.'
Interview while employed? (Originally Posted: 09/06/2009)
I'm working out of a BB in the backoffice and wanna send my resume around to a few job postings for front office roles.
How do people have the time during the workday (9-7pm) to talk to recruiters, interview etc while still employed? What are the chances of my manager at the BB finding out that I'm submitting resumes around?
Never done this before and am feeling a little uneasy about it. TYIA!
don't worry too much, resumes and job apps are held in confidence (unless you're Aleksey Vayner)... list a cell phone contact and a Yahoo or Gmail address. Also, if you're using recruiters state your preference for lunch time when you can get away, or evening calls- recruiters add a false sense of urgency in that they need to talk to you 2 or 3 times during the work day, in reality, they don't.
Jobs are really tough to get right now, so it's important to keep your current position and not alienate your supervisor. Looking shady is definitely one way to do that (with email and IM, there is hardly any reason to use a telephone at work these days haha)
Interested in hearing responses to this as well. My group works pretty serious hours and I literally don't know my own schedule at this point. I've often wondered when I would ever have time to interview somewhere.
Interviewing while still working (Originally Posted: 08/26/2013)
Is there any etiquette to trying to interview for other positions while still working? Or should it be avoided at all costs? Would love to hear peoples' experiences with this.
Take sick days, doctor appointments, family emergencies, etc.
I usually try to schedule an interview during a lunch hour (or after lunch).
Depends what the position is. Have heard of interviews conducted over dinner.
Not ideal but it's doable, I think it depends on the firm and group though.
Interviews while working (Originally Posted: 03/21/2011)
I was looking for some advice from people who have switched banks or career paths into IB. I'm currently an analyst at a commercial bank and am looking to make the switch. Networking and all of that has gotten me to the position to be expecting calls when the BB are hiring.
How have others approached this situation in view of the bank they want to go to and current employer?
I wouldn't mention anything until there are timing conflicts. Keep it dl until you know that you're gonna have something that's worth telling your current employer about. You wouldn't want to start telling them you're looking elsewhere before 'elsewhere' has even told you they want you.
How to tactfully go about taking time off for an interview when working currently (and other situation)? (Originally Posted: 06/14/2010)
Here's my situation. After being unemployed for quite some time after graduating (topic to itself, the short story is that I made a bunch of stupid decisions like not realizing the value of networking for one), I took on a job at a local Asset Management firm. Frankly though, the work isn't very motivating--lots of cold calling, nothing really financial--and the compensation is terrible. I have been playing the field with jobs because of this, and because it doesn't really align with my longer term goals, which for one is research.
Anyways, I now have an interview with the ops department of a major bank (think DB, Credit Suisse, Barclays) for one of their non-New York offices. I do realize that ops isn't exactly the most glamorous thing, but I'm taking the interview anyway just to see what happens.
The problem and the reason for my post is that the interview is scheduled on a Friday, and it's in a different city and different time zone, and air travel is needed. Because of this, I'll need to take time off of my work. Is there any tactful way to go about this? I'm thinking of just suddenly becoming "sick"...is that probably the only approach?
Any advice on that, or the rest of my situation, is much appreciated.
Thats not a good idea, it doesn't seem like you would ever be called on considering the type of work you said you do, but still... should they expect to be able to get in touch with you and/or expect you to do something, you'll be out of touch. Its better to just claim a family emergency requiring travel to such city.
The key to successfully lying is to keep as much as possible close to the truth. That way you don't have to remember all the shit you made up since you know that everything you told the other person is based on reality except the one component you want to hide.
You think lying about a family emergency is better than being sick? Challenge.
Go with sick. It's easy. Didn't answer your cell? At the doctor/asleep/whatever. Call them back later. Phones work in other cities. I've done this several times using sick, visiting clients, etc. Sick is way easier.
Thanks for the advice. This is probably what I'm going to end up doing
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