How to Spin Back Office Job to IB

For my sophomore year internship I worked in back office operations at a big well known firm. Taking in and sending out fixed income trades from institutional customers. I was pretty much an data entry monkey, looking at trades and processing them making sure everything was correct. Any suggestions on how to spin this off on my resume for my junior year IB internship?

 
cityknight:
Oh. My. God. Is that varsity curling? You're in.

yes.. that is varsity curling. i've had few interviews last year but nobody asked me about it....i was the vice skip if it matters, though our team never made it to the playoffs lol

 

Go to business school and get an MBA to re-brand yourself which will give you another shot at recruiting. Otherwise it's almost impossible. You might have a shot at a mm or a boutique, then could try breaking into a BB but that process would take longer than your MBA and you would have a better chance of success if you did the MBA in my opinion. Best of luck

 

Thank you all for your inputs

1) Getting MBA seems to be the most effective way of rebranding myself - but it's also the most expensive. Not to say I wouldn't rule it out in the immediate future (I'll have to get a Masters within my 20s afterall) but I don't want to drop 180k like a boss when I am far from it. Now you might say it's worth it, the money Ill end up making will cover it - but it's also a big gamble assuming I will be able to break into the right IB environment even with an MBA. 2) Targeting smaller firms was also my intention, thank you for brightening up my day and saying I may actually have a chance. 3) BO is going well. Don't know about the reference, I don't think my managers want me (or my teammates) to leave early as our team was just recently formed. 4) Having FO instead of BO must be a bit easier. I wish you good luck. 5) F**k kneepads :)

In light of your information, I wanted to ask 1) Assuming I do not go for my MBA tomorrow, and rather network aggressively until my piss turns to coffee, - should I accept a non-payed position if it ever came my way? 2) Would you advise for/against leaving Toronto and seeking positions somewhere else (say in Alberta) - knowing that the financial capital is in Toronto?

 

I'm not a fan of unpaid positions, I think that companies take a view of "if you don't think you're worth anything, why should we?'.

I'm in Alberta, it's a tight market. There is some movement, but that's mostly guys with experience shuffling around and with a background in O&G. Check Bill's Buzz or StreetmovesYYC ( I like this one), also, the Calgary CFA Society's jobline is not blocked to non-members (http://www.cfasociety.org/calgary/Pages/Jobline.aspx).

An anecdote to showcase how tight it is: My buddy in IBD at a Canadian bank said they got 400 resumes for an analyst position, including a reservoir engineer with a Harvard MBA.

 
overpaid_overworked:
I'm not a fan of unpaid positions, I think that companies take a view of "if you don't think you're worth anything, why should we?'.

I'm in Alberta, it's a tight market. There is some movement, but that's mostly guys with experience shuffling around and with a background in O&G. Check Bill's Buzz or StreetmovesYYC ( I like this one), also, the Calgary CFA Society's jobline is not blocked to non-members (http://www.cfasociety.org/calgary/Pages/Jobline.aspx).

An anecdote to showcase how tight it is: My buddy in IBD at a Canadian bank said they got 400 resumes for an analyst position, including a reservoir engineer with a Harvard MBA.

Thanks for the insight. It makes the end goal that much more clearer.

And I definitely can't compete with a Harvard MBA - so I have to try to find another path that ends up in the same place.

On a side note - how far does a CFA go in Alberta. CFA still has prestige in Toronto but I have heard from many older professionals that it is overbought and they advised me to pursue something else. But then again, they weren't in IB. So I am curious how the CFA is regarded in Alberta?

 

For banking, people could give a shit, they'd rather expereince than education, for ER, it's becoming table stakes, not prestigeous, just something that has to be done.

I looked at CBV, but it doesn't have the mass of charterholders like a CFA. Two things I'd say are pro-CFA, there are a lot of us, and we tend to like people that have them, if just to know that we've shared the suffering, secondly, it's dollar cheap, and you don't need time off work.

 
overpaid_overworked:
For banking, people could give a shit, they'd rather expereince than education, for ER, it's becoming table stakes, not prestigeous, just something that has to be done.

I looked at CBV, but it doesn't have the mass of charterholders like a CFA. Two things I'd say are pro-CFA, there are a lot of us, and we tend to like people that have them, if just to know that we've shared the suffering, secondly, it's dollar cheap, and you don't need time off work.

Very interesting. I never thought about the culture of CFA holders. That's nice to hear that you guys tend to like one another. Now CFA sounds alot more worth it.

 

I made this jump after 1.5 years of BO (went to boutique IBD). I would suggest starting your search asap, as it won't be easy. CFA did help me make the switch, but it's very bank/resume screener dependent.

"For I am a sinner in the hands of an angry God. Bloody Mary full of vodka, blessed are you among cocktails. Pray for me now and at the hour of my death, which I hope is soon. Amen."
 

I can't offer you an answer from experience, but I would imagine you should definitely include it. Because you are just now heading into your junior year, you aren't expected to have something incredible under work experience.

 

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