How to think about Growth Equity vs. Traditional PE?

What are the key differences between each in terms of what you learn, what you do, and how you should think? Have read about the differences (G.E. being more early stage, less debt, etc) but am struggling to understand how different the job would be at a growth equity vs. traditional PE. Or are they truly very similar?

 

not a PE guy, so if you get better feedback, roll with that... i imagine growth equity more heavily relies on their portfolio companies capturing additional market share to achieve returns rather than financial engineering and add-on acquisitions.

additionally, you will probably see some crazy multiples, since the value is driven by the achievable market share. You will probably deal with different buyers and sellers as well.

here is link to a similar thread:

http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/what-is-growth-pe

 

PE is the traditional sense tends to focus on LBOs. So you're looking to invest in established companies that are usually somewhat distressed and you're thinking more about the financial engineering aspect combined with operational changes that could be made to turn the company around. These are almost always buyout or majority stake deals. In terms of how this impacts what you'll be doing(presumably as an associate) you'll probably be more focused on excel/PowerPoint work and your technical financial and accounting skills will need to be sharper. As you mentioned using debt is an extremely important part of the deals as the whole idea behind an LBO is being able to add debt onto a business and have the business use its FCF to pay off the debt over time.

Growth equity on the other hand tends to focus on late stage investments into successful startups. So in this case you might investment in a Series B,C type of round into some type of startup that has already had a good deal of success and its looking for additional capital to grow. These businesses can range in terms of size and profitability, but debt is rarely used as many of these businesses will be burning cash and thus not able to take on additional debt. These are typically significant minority or just minority stake deals in general. In terms of how this impacts you at the associate role, the technical skills are probably a little less important as its tougher to model rapid growth companies. Many growth equity firms have associates spend a fair amount of time on the phone cold calling CEOs trying to generate investment opportunities. I've also heard of GE shops staffing associates to work with some of the portcos so the work is probably a little more diverse and depends on which place you're working.

The long short is the PE will be more technical and more into the nitty gritty of the mechanics of how to layer on debt to a business and turn it around. Probably longer hours and a little more grinding away on stuff, but in my opinion you'll learn more of the fundamentals of how to grow a business

Growth equity will be more time on the phone, building relationships, maybe some adhoc cap table work combined with helping the Portcos. It will be less technical, with better hours, but will likely pay less than a traditional LBO firm. GE also tends to not focus as much on the operational aspects of turning around the business. With that being said, you'll build a strong network and get to see sexier companies as compared to PE.

Hope this helps.

 
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To front run my comments, I have worked in both for a number of years.

Growth Equity is essentially writing a check to fund growth opportunities and/or acquisitions. The ownership stake is traditionally minority and the average check size lends itself to smaller deals. Post-acquisition, the role of the fund is limited, in comparison, to traditional private equity. As a result, you are providing capital to an experienced management team (typically) in order to gather market share, either through customer acquisition or consolidation (re: acquisitions). This can also be for an inexperienced management team that has either created a market or entered a nascent market. Think of technology start-ups, there is not a tremendous amount of proprietary technology, but since the market is growing and continually evolving, the competition is trying to grab as much of the market as possible, as quickly as possible. Due to high-customer switching costs and sticky customer relationships, the strategy is to grab as much of the market to establish the Company as the leader in the industry. In order to fund the customer acquisition costs, which are typically not profitable, the Company needs to raise capital in order to scale quickly and make this possible. The hope is that the Company can eventually leverage these "captive" customer relationships and market leading position to begin to generate cash flow. I've seen this with consumer product focused ventures as well as technology ventures. As an investment professional, this lends to a different type of diligence than traditional private equity, as the analysis is not focused on the cash flow generation of the business, but more focused on how the Company can quickly scale to address the market and consumer needs. At the same time, in more consumer driven businesses, the ROI of customer acquisition must be justified, similar to a private equity investment. In summary, GE lends itself to a more passive role from a fund perspective, and differs significantly from a diligence and investment perspective. However, returns on GE investments can be larger (on a deal-by-deal basis) and the structure of the equity investment can vary, including liquidation preferences that guarantee a stronger investment return, under the same valuation at exit, than traditional PE.

Private Equity is typically classified as leveraged buyouts, with a control investment position. This allows the private equity fund to have greater control on the Company's operations, adding value through capital structure optimization, deploying operating partners to improve the Company's efficiency, and/or bring in outside consultants to improve operations. In addition, in some industries (e.g., services, restaurants, and others) there is a benefit to scale, think centralizing fixed corporate costs to improve profitability through a roll-up strategy (acquisition driven). In this scenario, once a platform investment has been made, the fund can outbid other funds for a target given the opportunity to improve earning by achieving synergies and being "Accretive" to earning. All of these aspects lead to a greater overall involvement from the PE fund perspective. Furthermore, this also feeds into the PE mentality of a size premium, meaning the larger the business, the greater the multiple (industry term is multiple expansion). Regarding returns, PE funds do not necessarily need to see Company growth to make positive returns, although that is ideal; PE funds can use the FCF of the business to pay down debt and improve their equity value, either at exit or through a dividend recapitalization.

In summary, GE is a more passive role for the junior investment professionals, while PE, in general, provides for a greater level of exposure to Company operations, accounting, legal, etc. In my opinion, the exposure in a PE fund has been invaluable and only further increased my value as an investment professional. To counter this notion, GE funds have more portfolio companies than PE funds, and since there is a lower level of involvement with portfolio companies, investment professionals can invest more time to find new deals, which are driven more so by relationships than bidding on competitive auction processes, which is more common in PE. From a career development perspective, the traditional idea is that you cannot go from GE to PE, on average, and that it is easier to move "down market," from PE to GE. Regardless, all of this is situational and on a case by case basis.

I would normally say to PM me, but I believe the forum could benefit on a greater level if you post comments/questions to the thread. To qualify, my comments are a generalization, based upon not only my experience, but also the experience of friends, and I'm sure a number of experienced of investment professionals may provide varying commentary, based upon their experience.

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EightAceTres Since you have experience working in both fields...In terms of modeling, I am sure traditional PE is intensive when it comes to that. But for GE and VC in general , how much time have you spent running excel and if so, what did the modeling consist of? I am under the impression that with VC and GE, cash flows aren't to most consistent in contrast to PE. What metrics do you look at for VC companies when it comes time to take out the spreadsheet? Thanks

 

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