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Just saw a freaking mouse walk leisurely in my $2,000 apartment!!!! this city is so god damn filthy. I walk around and it smells like dog piss everywhere, everyone is so rude, subways suck a**.....eh, that was me just venting, but I will probably live here for the next couple of years. Tomorrow I will just walk into a CVS while smelling the fresh piss and trash, buy some mouse traps and hope to catch the little sucker.

Good night!

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  • In reply to lookatmycock
    craigmcdermott's picture

    lookatmycock:
    lol i've been thinking about moving out as well. think about it:

    $120k salary in NYC
    minus living expenses and other filthy crap = left with ~30k.

    $100k salary in DC/Boston/Penn doing same shit
    = left with ~50k and higher standard of living.

    That's simply not true. You think that you'd have $40k less annual expenses in Boston/DC? Your rent may be $2-500 a month cheaper which gives you, at the top end, $6k a year in savings. Other than that, your expenses are really not much different in those cities than they are in NY. Even adding 50% to your entertainment expenses (which is much higher than the true delta) for NYC doesn't approach the numbers you're talking about.

  • In The Flesh's picture

    I find it so funny that the people who claim to love New York so much aren't the natives, but people from elsewhere who move there and become transplants.

    It's like on a game show and you're thinking, "Why are those people so happy they won a trip to New York?"

    Metal. Music. Life. www.headofmetal.com

  • spaceagecowboy's picture

    if you dont like NYC, get the fuck out. Less competition for jobs, more bitches to bang, and more hipsters to sip sizzurp with.

  • In reply to deal_mkr
    andyinsandiego's picture

    deal_mkr:
    I live in a west coast city. it is very clean and smells great all the time. cost of living is approx same as new york however my apt is much much nicer than what i would get in ny for the same price.

    I guess you didn't quite grasp the concept of 'cost of living' did you?

  • wailea's picture

    tell you what. I just moved to a small city from nyc, make good money, 1000-sf apartment, huge walk-in closet, new bmw.

    I feel MISERABLE. I really miss my friends in nyc, and my little apartment in west village.

    I will take a studio in manhattan ANYTIME. God, give me a break.

  • In reply to spaceagecowboy
    awm55's picture

    spaceagecowboy:
    if you dont like NYC, get the fuck out. Less competition for jobs, more bitches to bang, and more hipsters to sip sizzurp with.

    I think you are the reason people hate NYC.

  • In reply to deal_mkr
    lmb1234's picture

    deal_mkr:
    lmb1234:
    deal_mkr:
    I live in a west coast city. it is very clean and smells great all the time. cost of living is approx same as new york however my apt is much much nicer than what i would get in ny for the same price. have plenty of friends who live in new york and am planning on moving back there once i can afford to get a baller place in the west village.

    that said, I took the bus home tonight (before cab expense time), and a blackout drunk homeless man got on and pissed himself and started yelling about it. hysterical

    homeless people are in every city, comes with the territory

    San Francisco is a gross city too

    Thanks for calling me out, however if that is your opinion you have probably been spending too much time in the Mission.

    Also, where would you rather be hungover? SF with overcast skies and crisp cool air or new york with 110 degree heat in the subway stations and festering piles of garbage bags on the sidewalks?

    I won't even go to the Mission. But San Francisco isn't exactly "clean". There are definitely plenty of homeless.

  • In reply to lmb1234
    jj1188's picture

    lmb1234:
    deal_mkr:
    lmb1234:
    deal_mkr:

    homeless people are in every city, comes with the territory

    San Francisco is a gross city too

    Thanks for calling me out, however if that is your opinion you have probably been spending too much time in the Mission.

    Also, where would you rather be hungover? SF with overcast skies and crisp cool air or new york with 110 degree heat in the subway stations and festering piles of garbage bags on the sidewalks?

    I won't even go to the Mission. But San Francisco isn't exactly "clean". There are definitely plenty of homeless.

    whaaat? the mission rocks. thinking about making the move from the marina.

    spent a summer in nyc. i didn't think it was too bad.

  • TropicalFruit's picture

    How about you losers just get out of the city rather than bitch on here like a bunch of old ladies in a knitting circle? Yeah NYC is dirty and the subway gets hot and crowded, but anywhere in the city is just a subway ride away, there's always something to do, and the girls are pretty (at least compared to everywhere I've lived). For a young and single guy that's fresh out of college, NYC is awesome. Now I have never lived in any of the other big cities like Chicago, San Fransisco, etc so I can't compare them to NYC, but I'd much rather be in NYC than the fucking suburbs somewhere. At least until I have kids.

  • In reply to Conan Sobroen
    jos.a.bankhard's picture

    Conan Sobroen:
    sharks9022:
    Benjammin822:
    Come to the South.

    The south has all the ladies

    God Bless.

    Overrated.

  • In reply to TropicalFruit
    ivoteforthatguy's picture

    TropicalFruit:
    How about you losers just get out of the city rather than bitch on here like a bunch of old ladies in a knitting circle? Yeah NYC is dirty and the subway gets hot and crowded, but anywhere in the city is just a subway ride away, there's always something to do, and the girls are pretty (at least compared to everywhere I've lived). For a young and single guy that's fresh out of college, NYC is awesome. Now I have never lived in any of the other big cities like Chicago, San Fransisco, etc so I can't compare them to NYC, but I'd much rather be in NYC than the fucking suburbs somewhere. At least until I have kids.

    What's a knitting circle? Does the last man have to eat the cracker?

  • ProdigyOfZen's picture

    Wow you guys are missing out.

    I am telling you Dallas or Austin is the place to be. In Dallas its like 7 out of every 10 girls is hot and I haven't even dated a white american girl since I was 17 so that is saying something if I think those white girls are hot.

    The cost of living is freaking ridiculous. We are THE PLACE to be for Oil and Energy (Houston as well) and those jobs pay extremely well.

    Dallas has the most F500 Headquarted companies in the US. We are like the 4th or 5th largest Hedge Fund/PE firm city in the US. So those jobs pay bank.

    I recently was looking at a 3 bedroom, 2.5 bath 1600 square foot condo in a great area of town where everyone wants to live and the asking price? 199k! I bet I can get it for less than that.

    Your standard of living here is ridiculous. I know a girl who get a decent condo in a great area of town for 70k, here monthly payment is about 350 bucks.

    Dallas doesnt have water except for the man made lakes and we are far from a lot of places but decently close to the Caribbean.

    Austin is ridiculous and growing like crazy. The downtown area is snazzy and it has a college town feel. The city has very little crime, the colorado river flowing through downtown and multiple lakes plus the hill country. Austin is making itself out to be a mini silicon valley plus mini hollywood.

    It has tons of tech firms and a growing PE/Hedge Fund community.

    You guys are missing out......

    Not to mention the tons of hot girls and in 2010 Austin and Dallas were picked as #1 and #2 most sexually active cities in the US.

    boooyah

    The one who does not fall, does not stand up

  • pancake_ninja's picture

    LOL at everyone bitching about how NYC is so disgusting. Go live in New Delhi, India for a month and wake up to the world.

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  • NYCbandar's picture

    Yeah, New York is a different animal. It is pretty fucking gross. Like, really gross.

    I was a little turned off when I moved here, but every day I spend in New York I like it more. I know it's cliche but New York is just full of vibrant, interesting people, and I think that a lot of bankers don't get exposed to that because they spend all their free time in Wall Street bars drinking w/ other bankers.

    Here's my advice if you're in New York:

    1. Don't worry about living close to work. You're going to take black cars home every night, and even if you live pretty far away, it's still not going to take long to get to/from work on the subway. Believe me. Chose a nice, quiet neighborhood w/ good bars. Make sure you have a good neighborhood bar. This is key.

    2. Get roommates. Believe me, you will get a lot more bang for your buck. Even just 1 roommate if you want. 2 bedrooms are way nicer than 1 bedrooms and studios.

    3. MAKE FRIENDS WITH NON BANKERS. Be sure to stay in touch with friends from school and your hometown that are not in finance. Believe me, this is very important because they have a lot more time off than you do, and they will know all the cool hole in the wall spots that you don't have the time to find. It's a life hack. It keeps you sane, and honestly, you will spend plenty of time drinking with bankers don't worry. They're pretty much all alcoholics, even the little Asian girls from Harvard. It's really easy to turn in to sort of the "prototypical broey banker," and putting off that vibe is going to turn a lot of people off to you. Also IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO GET YOUR PENIS TOUCHED IF YOU GO OUT WITH A BIG GROUP OF MALE BANKERS. It's super easy to get laid in NYC if you go out with non bankers. Post financial crisis, a group of 3 or more bankers are going to have trouble closing. Period.

    4. Meet people in the entertainment/restaurant industry. New York is all about creating a little village for yourself in the city. You want to have bars that know your drink and restaurants that know your name. It just makes everything a hell of a lot more fun. Nothing drops panties faster than being the guy in the back room blowing lines w/ a classy bar's owner. You accomplish this by going out, tipping well, and making conversation. Also I suggest going out alone from time to time, especially in your neighborhood. I know it's a bit intimidating at first, but shit, if you get off work before midnight, stop by your neighborhood bar, grab a beer, and talk to the bartender. I did this just b/c I'm an alcoholic, but I've made a lot of valuable friends as a result.

    5. Don't be judgemental. Bankers can be very judgemental, and a lot of them are sort of goody-goody nerdy types. This doesn't work very well in NYC. Do drugs. Especially cocaine. Believe me. You know how America runs on Dunkin? NYC runs on blow.

    6. Obviously make sure you do good work. Don't have too much fun.

  • In reply to pancake_ninja
    NYCbandar's picture

    pancake_ninja:
    LOL at everyone bitching about how NYC is so disgusting. Go live in New Delhi, India for a month and wake up to the world.

    I've lived in Delhi. It's India so yeah you get all that, but it's not like it's all that much dirtier than New York. It's funny that you say that, because New York feels like India to me. Actually, to me, it feels a lot more like an Indian city than it feels like a normal American city.

    Plus the Delhi Metro is like infinitely cleaner than the MTA.

  • Ambition's picture

    then go to mumbai....... the homeless have homes on the train's rails and they have watchouts to wake them up when a train is coming... but if u got bank it dont matte get a car and driver

    I want a lady on the street, but a freak in the bed,

    Go Bucks!!

  • NYCbandar's picture

    Haha yeah it's funny that Delhi has the beautiful new Metro while Bombay got stuck with the piece of shit train. Maybe they can't dig tunnels b/c the water comes up too high? Idk.

  • In reply to NYCbandar
    awm55's picture

    NYCbandar:
    Yeah, New York is a different animal. It is pretty fucking gross. Like, really gross.

    I was a little turned off when I moved here, but every day I spend in New York I like it more. I know it's cliche but New York is just full of vibrant, interesting people, and I think that a lot of bankers don't get exposed to that because they spend all their free time in Wall Street bars drinking w/ other bankers.

    Here's my advice if you're in New York:

    1. Don't worry about living close to work. You're going to take black cars home every night, and even if you live pretty far away, it's still not going to take long to get to/from work on the subway. Believe me. Chose a nice, quiet neighborhood w/ good bars. Make sure you have a good neighborhood bar. This is key.

    2. Get roommates. Believe me, you will get a lot more bang for your buck. Even just 1 roommate if you want. 2 bedrooms are way nicer than 1 bedrooms and studios.

    3. MAKE FRIENDS WITH NON BANKERS. Be sure to stay in touch with friends from school and your hometown that are not in finance. Believe me, this is very important because they have a lot more time off than you do, and they will know all the cool hole in the wall spots that you don't have the time to find. It's a life hack. It keeps you sane, and honestly, you will spend plenty of time drinking with bankers don't worry. They're pretty much all alcoholics, even the little Asian girls from Harvard. It's really easy to turn in to sort of the "prototypical broey banker," and putting off that vibe is going to turn a lot of people off to you. Also IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO GET YOUR PENIS TOUCHED IF YOU GO OUT WITH A BIG GROUP OF MALE BANKERS. It's super easy to get laid in NYC if you go out with non bankers. Post financial crisis, a group of 3 or more bankers are going to have trouble closing. Period.

    4. Meet people in the entertainment/restaurant industry. New York is all about creating a little village for yourself in the city. You want to have bars that know your drink and restaurants that know your name. It just makes everything a hell of a lot more fun. Nothing drops panties faster than being the guy in the back room blowing lines w/ a classy bar's owner. You accomplish this by going out, tipping well, and making conversation. Also I suggest going out alone from time to time, especially in your neighborhood. I know it's a bit intimidating at first, but shit, if you get off work before midnight, stop by your neighborhood bar, grab a beer, and talk to the bartender. I did this just b/c I'm an alcoholic, but I've made a lot of valuable friends as a result.

    5. Don't be judgemental. Bankers can be very judgemental, and a lot of them are sort of goody-goody nerdy types. This doesn't work very well in NYC. Do drugs. Especially cocaine. Believe me. You know how America runs on Dunkin? NYC runs on blow.

    6. Obviously make sure you do good work. Don't have too much fun.

    So to enjoy NYC you have to be an alcoholic coke head pick up artist? That is why I hate NYC, people think they are the shit when in reality they are a walking cliche. Girls who are attracted to the guy doing coke with the bar owner are not girls worth talking to in my opinion, and the guys who think its cool to do coke with the bar owner usually give me douche chills when they open their mouth.

    Perhaps I am being a little judgmental, but in London no one seems to care about any of this. The people just seem to be so much more real, and in British terms "they just get on with it".

  • Ambition's picture

    Well I am thinking between LA, NYC, SF, HK, so not diff any of those cities.... but mice really sucks 7 in 1 day damn i have never seen one.

    I want a lady on the street, but a freak in the bed,

    Go Bucks!!

  • Ambition's picture

    mumbai is the nyc of india (so shit) (most Opps) DC and Delhi are the capitals so they need to make it pretty for foreign reps :D. DC is amazing!

    I want a lady on the street, but a freak in the bed,

    Go Bucks!!

  • In reply to awm55
    NYCbandar's picture

    awm55:
    NYCbandar:
    Yeah, New York is a different animal. It is pretty fucking gross. Like, really gross.

    I was a little turned off when I moved here, but every day I spend in New York I like it more. I know it's cliche but New York is just full of vibrant, interesting people, and I think that a lot of bankers don't get exposed to that because they spend all their free time in Wall Street bars drinking w/ other bankers.

    Here's my advice if you're in New York:

    1. Don't worry about living close to work. You're going to take black cars home every night, and even if you live pretty far away, it's still not going to take long to get to/from work on the subway. Believe me. Chose a nice, quiet neighborhood w/ good bars. Make sure you have a good neighborhood bar. This is key.

    2. Get roommates. Believe me, you will get a lot more bang for your buck. Even just 1 roommate if you want. 2 bedrooms are way nicer than 1 bedrooms and studios.

    3. MAKE FRIENDS WITH NON BANKERS. Be sure to stay in touch with friends from school and your hometown that are not in finance. Believe me, this is very important because they have a lot more time off than you do, and they will know all the cool hole in the wall spots that you don't have the time to find. It's a life hack. It keeps you sane, and honestly, you will spend plenty of time drinking with bankers don't worry. They're pretty much all alcoholics, even the little Asian girls from Harvard. It's really easy to turn in to sort of the "prototypical broey banker," and putting off that vibe is going to turn a lot of people off to you. Also IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO GET YOUR PENIS TOUCHED IF YOU GO OUT WITH A BIG GROUP OF MALE BANKERS. It's super easy to get laid in NYC if you go out with non bankers. Post financial crisis, a group of 3 or more bankers are going to have trouble closing. Period.

    4. Meet people in the entertainment/restaurant industry. New York is all about creating a little village for yourself in the city. You want to have bars that know your drink and restaurants that know your name. It just makes everything a hell of a lot more fun. Nothing drops panties faster than being the guy in the back room blowing lines w/ a classy bar's owner. You accomplish this by going out, tipping well, and making conversation. Also I suggest going out alone from time to time, especially in your neighborhood. I know it's a bit intimidating at first, but shit, if you get off work before midnight, stop by your neighborhood bar, grab a beer, and talk to the bartender. I did this just b/c I'm an alcoholic, but I've made a lot of valuable friends as a result.

    5. Don't be judgemental. Bankers can be very judgemental, and a lot of them are sort of goody-goody nerdy types. This doesn't work very well in NYC. Do drugs. Especially cocaine. Believe me. You know how America runs on Dunkin? NYC runs on blow.

    6. Obviously make sure you do good work. Don't have too much fun.

    So to enjoy NYC you have to be an alcoholic coke head pick up artist? That is why I hate NYC, people think they are the shit when in reality they are a walking cliche. Girls who are attracted to the guy doing coke with the bar owner are not girls worth talking to in my opinion, and the guys who think its cool to do coke with the bar owner usually give me douche chills when they open their mouth.

    Perhaps I am being a little judgmental, but in London no one seems to care about any of this. The people just seem to be so much more real, and in British terms "they just get on with it".

    To each their own I guess. You can have your life and I'll keep mine, you know? No problem. I just see a lot of kids toss themselves into the meat grinder and then bitch about NYC when, at the end of the day, they're just doing it wrong. I'm not like the fucking messiah or something that everyone needs to listen to, but as a banker in NYC who enjoys it, I think it's pretty fair to state my opinion. If people don't want to listen to me and want to do things their own way, that's fine. Whatever floats your boat. I'm just sort of trying to lay out what has worked for me.

    And yeah, in a way your attitude is sort of the one I'm talking about. It doesn't work in NYC. You don't get to shit on people's lifestyle choices like that and expect them to respect you. It's a really good way to banish yourself from some of the more fun scenes in New York.

  • In reply to NYCbandar
    lookatmycock's picture

    NYCbandar:
    Yeah, New York is a different animal. It is pretty fucking gross. Like, really gross.

    I was a little turned off when I moved here, but every day I spend in New York I like it more. I know it's cliche but New York is just full of vibrant, interesting people, and I think that a lot of bankers don't get exposed to that because they spend all their free time in Wall Street bars drinking w/ other bankers.

    Here's my advice if you're in New York:

    1. Don't worry about living close to work. You're going to take black cars home every night, and even if you live pretty far away, it's still not going to take long to get to/from work on the subway. Believe me. Chose a nice, quiet neighborhood w/ good bars. Make sure you have a good neighborhood bar. This is key.

    2. Get roommates. Believe me, you will get a lot more bang for your buck. Even just 1 roommate if you want. 2 bedrooms are way nicer than 1 bedrooms and studios.

    3. MAKE FRIENDS WITH NON BANKERS. Be sure to stay in touch with friends from school and your hometown that are not in finance. Believe me, this is very important because they have a lot more time off than you do, and they will know all the cool hole in the wall spots that you don't have the time to find. It's a life hack. It keeps you sane, and honestly, you will spend plenty of time drinking with bankers don't worry. They're pretty much all alcoholics, even the little Asian girls from Harvard. It's really easy to turn in to sort of the "prototypical broey banker," and putting off that vibe is going to turn a lot of people off to you. Also IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO GET YOUR PENIS TOUCHED IF YOU GO OUT WITH A BIG GROUP OF MALE BANKERS. It's super easy to get laid in NYC if you go out with non bankers. Post financial crisis, a group of 3 or more bankers are going to have trouble closing. Period.

    4. Meet people in the entertainment/restaurant industry. New York is all about creating a little village for yourself in the city. You want to have bars that know your drink and restaurants that know your name. It just makes everything a hell of a lot more fun. Nothing drops panties faster than being the guy in the back room blowing lines w/ a classy bar's owner. You accomplish this by going out, tipping well, and making conversation. Also I suggest going out alone from time to time, especially in your neighborhood. I know it's a bit intimidating at first, but shit, if you get off work before midnight, stop by your neighborhood bar, grab a beer, and talk to the bartender. I did this just b/c I'm an alcoholic, but I've made a lot of valuable friends as a result.

    5. Don't be judgemental. Bankers can be very judgemental, and a lot of them are sort of goody-goody nerdy types. This doesn't work very well in NYC. Do drugs. Especially cocaine. Believe me. You know how America runs on Dunkin? NYC runs on blow.

    6. Obviously make sure you do good work. Don't have too much fun.

    I was the treasurer for a year for my fraternity (a popular one) in college and I've done ALL of that shit. 2, 3, sometimes 4-5 nights a week all while working hard and playing harder in the engineering school. Sororistitutes, drama, hilarious ass stories during sunday brunch, cleaning up condoms on my fraternity couches, even skipping a midterm accidentally because i was so fucking hung over one day. I've done it all.

    And trust me, I'm in the real world now, got a real world job (a nice paying one at that) in NYC and let me tell you: I'm not the immature college frat boy I used to be. Sure, I'm s till an immature brat and sometimes write 8 year old shit on this website but for the most part, I'm not interested in a repeat of my college fraternity.

    I think back: Would I have lost anything had I not joined a fraternity with wild parties? DEFINITELY NO. Doing lines of coke with the bar owner and fucking the girls who run towards guys who do is SERIOUSLY SERIOUSLY OVERRATED.

    Some of us just want to start living like a responsible fucking adult. We each have our own ways of enjoying our youth.

    And no, you dont need coke or drugs to enjoy NYC. The ones who really succeed and become the top 1% of this nation's income bracket who did not get lucky or win the lottery or inherit a hedge fund, are the ones who grind it out 24/7, sacrifice a friday night party to crank out a new business idea or learn a new skill, and really exempifly the classy personality of the group of people they aspire to be - not emulating low life coke addicts living above 156th. The ones who end up really making it are all nerds to some degree - some may be better looking or more athletic or have better game with girls but for thhe most part, they're all goody-goody type nerds. Look at the nerdy founders of Google, Facebook, Apple, Intel, even Goldman Sachs where I met Alex Blankfein (son of Lloyd) and let me tell you he does not in any way give off the whole "FUCK YEA LET'S SNORT THAT LINE OFF THAT BRAZILIAN HOOKER, MONKEYS!!" vibe even if he does do such things.

    Real classiness goes a long way.

  • In reply to lookatmycock
    awm55's picture

    lookatmycock:
    NYCbandar:
    Yeah, New York is a different animal. It is pretty fucking gross. Like, really gross.

    I was a little turned off when I moved here, but every day I spend in New York I like it more. I know it's cliche but New York is just full of vibrant, interesting people, and I think that a lot of bankers don't get exposed to that because they spend all their free time in Wall Street bars drinking w/ other bankers.

    Here's my advice if you're in New York:

    1. Don't worry about living close to work. You're going to take black cars home every night, and even if you live pretty far away, it's still not going to take long to get to/from work on the subway. Believe me. Chose a nice, quiet neighborhood w/ good bars. Make sure you have a good neighborhood bar. This is key.

    2. Get roommates. Believe me, you will get a lot more bang for your buck. Even just 1 roommate if you want. 2 bedrooms are way nicer than 1 bedrooms and studios.

    3. MAKE FRIENDS WITH NON BANKERS. Be sure to stay in touch with friends from school and your hometown that are not in finance. Believe me, this is very important because they have a lot more time off than you do, and they will know all the cool hole in the wall spots that you don't have the time to find. It's a life hack. It keeps you sane, and honestly, you will spend plenty of time drinking with bankers don't worry. They're pretty much all alcoholics, even the little Asian girls from Harvard. It's really easy to turn in to sort of the "prototypical broey banker," and putting off that vibe is going to turn a lot of people off to you. Also IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO GET YOUR PENIS TOUCHED IF YOU GO OUT WITH A BIG GROUP OF MALE BANKERS. It's super easy to get laid in NYC if you go out with non bankers. Post financial crisis, a group of 3 or more bankers are going to have trouble closing. Period.

    4. Meet people in the entertainment/restaurant industry. New York is all about creating a little village for yourself in the city. You want to have bars that know your drink and restaurants that know your name. It just makes everything a hell of a lot more fun. Nothing drops panties faster than being the guy in the back room blowing lines w/ a classy bar's owner. You accomplish this by going out, tipping well, and making conversation. Also I suggest going out alone from time to time, especially in your neighborhood. I know it's a bit intimidating at first, but shit, if you get off work before midnight, stop by your neighborhood bar, grab a beer, and talk to the bartender. I did this just b/c I'm an alcoholic, but I've made a lot of valuable friends as a result.

    5. Don't be judgemental. Bankers can be very judgemental, and a lot of them are sort of goody-goody nerdy types. This doesn't work very well in NYC. Do drugs. Especially cocaine. Believe me. You know how America runs on Dunkin? NYC runs on blow.

    6. Obviously make sure you do good work. Don't have too much fun.

    I was the treasurer for a year for my fraternity (a popular one) in college and I've done ALL of that shit. 2, 3, sometimes 4-5 nights a week all while working hard and playing harder in the engineering school. Sororistitutes, drama, hilarious ass stories during sunday brunch, cleaning up condoms on my fraternity couches, even skipping a midterm accidentally because i was so fucking hung over one day. I've done it all.

    And trust me, I'm in the real world now, got a real world job (a nice paying one at that) in NYC and let me tell you: I'm not the immature college frat boy I used to be. Sure, I'm s till an immature brat and sometimes write 8 year old shit on this website but for the most part, I'm not interested in a repeat of my college fraternity.

    I think back: Would I have lost anything had I not joined a fraternity with wild parties? DEFINITELY NO. Doing lines of coke with the bar owner and fucking the girls who run towards guys who do is SERIOUSLY SERIOUSLY OVERRATED.

    Some of us just want to start living like a responsible fucking adult. We each have our own ways of enjoying our youth.

    And no, you dont need coke or drugs to enjoy NYC. The ones who really succeed and become the top 1% of this nation's income bracket who did not get lucky or win the lottery or inherit a hedge fund, are the ones who grind it out 24/7, sacrifice a friday night party to crank out a new business idea or learn a new skill, and really exempifly the classy personality of the group of people they aspire to be - not emulating low life coke addicts living above 156th.

    I think that is the thing, lets be realistic here, most guys who go into high finance (and I am not talking about some inter-dealer broker here) are the nerdy types who live relatively sterile and subdued lives. Sure they get pissed on the weekends, but to say that doing coke with bar owners and then banging the chicks who want to scrounge a line from you is the lifestyle of most successful professionals is nothing more than a frat boy fantasy. Do some people live that lifestyle, sure, but if that is truly what it takes to enjoy NYC then that is pretty sad in my opinion.

  • NYCbandar's picture

    OK, I think I'm not making myself understood very well. My main point is to do what makes you happy. I guess I was hyperbolic in my comment. I have plenty of friend/coworkers who have very different lives than I do and they are happy as well.

    I like how I'm living. For example, in the half hour that passed since my last comment, I popped downstairs for a pack of cigarettes, and the guy who owns the oyster bar I live above saw me, stopped me in the street, bought me a beer and introduced me to some bargoers. No joke. I like that about NYC. I think different people like different things, and I'm not trying to say drinking and drugs are the only way to enjoy New York. This is just how I do it. In New York you have to build your niche or you'll be forgotten is I guess what I'm trying to say.

    Also, for people throwing around frat boy. I'm not a fucking frat boy. At least in my bank about 30-40% of the analysts are frat boys. They all hang out with each other at banker bars. That's fine. It's just not what I do and I don't think it makes people like NYC. There's no value added for those guys to be in NYC. They might as well be in Houston or Chicago and save money and drink in the banker bars there with the frat boy bankers out there. In fact I think the nerdy types like NYC more than the frat boys because they aren't sheep. They find a place for themselves other than the bank. That's what you have to do.

  • In reply to lookatmycock
    NYCbandar's picture

    lookatmycock:
    NYCbandar:
    Yeah, New York is a different animal. It is pretty fucking gross. Like, really gross.

    I was a little turned off when I moved here, but every day I spend in New York I like it more. I know it's cliche but New York is just full of vibrant, interesting people, and I think that a lot of bankers don't get exposed to that because they spend all their free time in Wall Street bars drinking w/ other bankers.

    Here's my advice if you're in New York:

    1. Don't worry about living close to work. You're going to take black cars home every night, and even if you live pretty far away, it's still not going to take long to get to/from work on the subway. Believe me. Chose a nice, quiet neighborhood w/ good bars. Make sure you have a good neighborhood bar. This is key.

    2. Get roommates. Believe me, you will get a lot more bang for your buck. Even just 1 roommate if you want. 2 bedrooms are way nicer than 1 bedrooms and studios.

    3. MAKE FRIENDS WITH NON BANKERS. Be sure to stay in touch with friends from school and your hometown that are not in finance. Believe me, this is very important because they have a lot more time off than you do, and they will know all the cool hole in the wall spots that you don't have the time to find. It's a life hack. It keeps you sane, and honestly, you will spend plenty of time drinking with bankers don't worry. They're pretty much all alcoholics, even the little Asian girls from Harvard. It's really easy to turn in to sort of the "prototypical broey banker," and putting off that vibe is going to turn a lot of people off to you. Also IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO GET YOUR PENIS TOUCHED IF YOU GO OUT WITH A BIG GROUP OF MALE BANKERS. It's super easy to get laid in NYC if you go out with non bankers. Post financial crisis, a group of 3 or more bankers are going to have trouble closing. Period.

    4. Meet people in the entertainment/restaurant industry. New York is all about creating a little village for yourself in the city. You want to have bars that know your drink and restaurants that know your name. It just makes everything a hell of a lot more fun. Nothing drops panties faster than being the guy in the back room blowing lines w/ a classy bar's owner. You accomplish this by going out, tipping well, and making conversation. Also I suggest going out alone from time to time, especially in your neighborhood. I know it's a bit intimidating at first, but shit, if you get off work before midnight, stop by your neighborhood bar, grab a beer, and talk to the bartender. I did this just b/c I'm an alcoholic, but I've made a lot of valuable friends as a result.

    5. Don't be judgemental. Bankers can be very judgemental, and a lot of them are sort of goody-goody nerdy types. This doesn't work very well in NYC. Do drugs. Especially cocaine. Believe me. You know how America runs on Dunkin? NYC runs on blow.

    6. Obviously make sure you do good work. Don't have too much fun.

    I was the treasurer for a year for my fraternity (a popular one) in college and I've done ALL of that shit. 2, 3, sometimes 4-5 nights a week all while working hard and playing harder in the engineering school. Sororistitutes, drama, hilarious ass stories during sunday brunch, cleaning up condoms on my fraternity couches, even skipping a midterm accidentally because i was so fucking hung over one day. I've done it all.

    And trust me, I'm in the real world now, got a real world job (a nice paying one at that) in NYC and let me tell you: I'm not the immature college frat boy I used to be. Sure, I'm s till an immature brat and sometimes write 8 year old shit on this website but for the most part, I'm not interested in a repeat of my college fraternity.

    I think back: Would I have lost anything had I not joined a fraternity with wild parties? DEFINITELY NO. Doing lines of coke with the bar owner and fucking the girls who run towards guys who do is SERIOUSLY SERIOUSLY OVERRATED.

    Some of us just want to start living like a responsible fucking adult. We each have our own ways of enjoying our youth.

    And no, you dont need coke or drugs to enjoy NYC. The ones who really succeed and become the top 1% of this nation's income bracket who did not get lucky or win the lottery or inherit a hedge fund, are the ones who grind it out 24/7, sacrifice a friday night party to crank out a new business idea or learn a new skill, and really exempifly the classy personality of the group of people they aspire to be - not emulating low life coke addicts living above 156th. The ones who end up really making it are all nerds to some degree - some may be better looking or more athletic or have better game with girls but for thhe most part, they're all goody-goody type nerds. Look at the nerdy founders of Google, Facebook, Apple, Intel, even Goldman Sachs where I met Alex Blankfein (son of Lloyd) and let me tell you he does not in any way give off the whole "FUCK YEA LET'S SNORT THAT LINE OFF THAT BRAZILIAN HOOKER, MONKEYS!!" vibe even if he does do such things.

    Real classiness goes a long way.

    I don't want to be Lloyd Blankfein. Maybe that's what our differences are stemming from? I kind of just like to do my job well and have fun. The banking hierarchy is a pyramid and very few people who enter as analysts make it anywhere close to the top. Quite frankly you can have the C level if you want it, I'm quite happy having fun in my 20's and peaking at MD.

    The buy side is even more of a pyramid.

  • Ambition's picture

    WOOT!! why wouldnt you want a C level position anyways? JW i would love to take though :)

    I want a lady on the street, but a freak in the bed,

    Go Bucks!!

  • NYCbandar's picture

    It's not that I wouldn't want it or whatever, c level guys tend to be pretty impressive. I would obviously take a position like that if it were offered to me. It's just that the world is a big place. Most actual analysts you meet in banking aren't beating off to Blanky's resume and aren't even close to thinking about C level positions. If you come in to an analyst program with the attitude of "I want to be the CEO of the bank" it's going to be a long and difficult path, and when you get there you're going to look back and wish you had done things differently. I'd be shocked if you could find a single CEO on Wall Street who would say they planned on becoming CEO when they started at the bank. That just doesn't happen you know?

    If you want to be successful in banking, you don't do it by being the one who wants it the most, you do it by reading between the lines. Find senior bankers to watch out for you, maintain good professional relationships with as many people as possible, do good work, and don't fuck up at any of the open bar events. It's pretty simple.

    If you're talking to an MD as an analyst and you tell him you want his boss's job, he'll probably laugh in your face.

  • Beef's picture

    Come to Houston bro. We make more money than you (no state or city income taxes) and our cost of living is half of yours. You can literally pay $1000 a month in rent and live like a baller.

    Also, Dallas/Austin are cool towns but there is very little banking. Houston is the place to be for oil & gas, not Dallas. Don't kid yourself. If you want to do middle market banking yeah sure go to Dallas (nothing wrong with that) but if you really want a broad range of oil & gas related finance careers, H-town is where it's at.

    Austin is also a cool town but everyone who lives in Austin knows that once you graduate from UT you come to Houston to get a real job and play with the big boys.

    Wall Street leaders now understand that they made a mistake, one born of their innocent and trusting nature. They trusted ordinary Americans to behave more responsibly than they themselves ever would, and these ordinary Americans betrayed their trust.

  • In reply to jj1188
    deal_mkr's picture

    jj1188:
    lmb1234:
    deal_mkr:
    lmb1234:
    deal_mkr:

    homeless people are in every city, comes with the territory

    San Francisco is a gross city too

    Thanks for calling me out, however if that is your opinion you have probably been spending too much time in the Mission.

    Also, where would you rather be hungover? SF with overcast skies and crisp cool air or new york with 110 degree heat in the subway stations and festering piles of garbage bags on the sidewalks?

    I won't even go to the Mission. But San Francisco isn't exactly "clean". There are definitely plenty of homeless.

    whaaat? the mission rocks. thinking about making the move from the marina.

    spent a summer in nyc. i didn't think it was too bad.

    also spent a summer in NYC, did love certain things about it such as the nightlife and abundance of taxis and seamless web options , however did not like certain things such as noise and trash on sidewalks...

    i live in the marina and love it, curious as to why you are planning on moving out?

  • Massiveattack1987's picture

    My sister studies in NY.. She hates it. Even if she lives in a college residental home and pays over f****** 1600$, this home is dirty as hell.

    She told me that she sees tons of rats and cockroaches every day.

    Most students who are so fascinated from NYC as tourists and finally study there, regret their decision. They want to go back to Europe.

    I have ever been to NY. It was nice as tourist. But I would never like to live there, because there are always better alternatives.

    If you guys have money and time, visit me to Duesseldorf, Germany. It is really small like Milan, but this city has the quality.

  • spaceagecowboy's picture

    Houston is a fvcking dump, you can have it.

  • pacman007's picture

    Htown is the shit. fasting growing city and the fasting growing economy. enough said. we have so many fucking east and west coasters down here its ridiculous. Houston is the finance capital of the south, and the south isn't that bad if you live in a major metro like Houston.

    "Don't quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a Champion" - Muhammad Ali

  • jon1987's picture

    Houston is great for low CoL and good paying jobs, but my gosh if it were any humid I think you would be swimming in the air.

    "There are only two opinions in this world: Mine and the wrong one." -Jeremy Clarkson

  • In reply to Iplaygoodguitar
    Kanon's picture

    Iplaygoodguitar:

    Sorry my brother - you need to grow some thicker skin if you can't take the big apple. This place is fast paced up in your face and raw. I've worked in Corp Fin around the globe and you're not going to find a place in the middle of it all (and as diverse, authentic or electric) as New York.

    Hong Kong -

    Though similarly can be just as dirty (if not dirtier) than NYC in some areas, HK does a pretty good job in terms of having 'quiet areas' to go to, and it's got a ton of beaches and other stuff for the outdoorsy type.

  • RonBurgandy's picture

    Anyone who throws out the "that's the stereotypical New Yorker" or "that's the reason why New York sucks, cuz of people like you!" is an idiot. That's the beauty of NY, that there is NO stereotypical citizen here. You stay in one area, go to all the same types of hangouts, and yes, you'll get the same types of people. But it doesn't matter what your scene is, you'll find it here?

    Want hipster? Head to Williamsburg. Want stuck up rich folk? Got you on the Upper East Side. Want a stroller community? Cobble Hill and Park Slope have you covered. Hip, trendy, artsy folk? West Village.

    The point of NY is to have a diversified community that anyone can learn to love. I agree, it's not a place for everyone to live, but come down for a weekend and I guarantee I can make you feel at home somewhere. Try saying the same for Boston...ha.

  • streetwannabe's picture

    Just don't live in Manhattan. Brooklyn is so much nicer. Esp DUMBO, Heights and Williamsburg

    "History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme."

  • furiousgeorge86's picture

    I grew up in New York City (actually within the 5 boroughs, unlike every person in the world who says they are from NYC but is really from strong island or westchester/new jersey. Not to pick on Wonderwoman above, but I'd be willing to bet today's paycheck that by "native new yorker" he/she means westchester), and totally agree its not for everybody. Its stressful as hell, and definitely smells like shit. But it is what it is. Its the capital of the world. You can literally do anything in this city. Oh you want malaysian/BBQ fusion? Train ride away. You feel like looking at picasso's early work instead of the cubist crap that you hate? Go to the met. You want to watch 6 professional sports teams, AND the Mets? Go to stub hub and hit it up (stole that from a storage company's sign). Everything is here.

    Anyone who says "the neighborhoods are crap" sounds like a tourist asking why they only have applebees and TGI fridays in NYC. That isn't an opinion, thats just ignorance. Anyone who hasn't ever stepped foot into park slope or brooklyn heights or the older parts of tribeca and west village have no clue what NYC is about. Calling "Midtown" new york city is just plain stupid. Midtown is the worst place in the entire world. Thats why no actual new yorker does anything there except go into their office. And maybe is it possible that because most people here are 23 year olds who have no connection to the city they might be skewed on the type of city it is? Shit, if all I saw was murray hill, I would hate this town too. Once you actually live somewhere and explore it you find the cool places. Thats what happens when you live somewhere. I lived in London for a year, and found the places I love early because I was willing to explore. That means walking around a ton and getting lost, and eventually finding the awesome random places that make a city home. I suggest you do the same.

    So this weekend, instead of gettin bombed at Mercury Bar, get a drink at Maialino, walk around gramercy, go to sleep, then get up and walk on Greenwich st. below canal and see a cool part of NYC. That walk is one of hundreds of cool parts of NYC. Just breathe in the old warehouse architecture, and see how actual new yorkers live. Or just hang out on the 23rd floor of some shitty murray hill apartment building. Your choice.

    Until you do that, quit your bitching and buy some peanut butter. Mice love that shit.

  • RonBurgandy's picture

    furiousgeorge - best post in this thread! Well spoken. I've found that 95% of people who hate NY have yet to even experience it. It is their lack of experience that either makes them envious or just plain ignorant.

    I love how someone here said that "they only have chain stores and restaurants in NYC". Are you f**king kidding me?! You have NO idea what lies in the crevices of the East Village, West Village, Tribeca, Upper East Side, Upper West Side, Cobble Hill/Carroll Gardens, Park Slope, Fort Greene, I could go on and on all day long.

  • In reply to furiousgeorge86
    awm55's picture

    furiousgeorge86:
    I grew up in New York City (actually within the 5 boroughs, unlike every person in the world who says they are from NYC but is really from strong island or westchester/new jersey. Not to pick on Wonderwoman above, but I'd be willing to bet today's paycheck that by "native new yorker" he/she means westchester), and totally agree its not for everybody. Its stressful as hell, and definitely smells like shit. But it is what it is. Its the capital of the world. You can literally do anything in this city. Oh you want malaysian/BBQ fusion? Train ride away. You feel like looking at picasso's early work instead of the cubist crap that you hate? Go to the met. You want to watch 6 professional sports teams, AND the Mets? Go to stub hub and hit it up (stole that from a storage company's sign). Everything is here.

    Anyone who says "the neighborhoods are crap" sounds like a tourist asking why they only have applebees and TGI fridays in NYC. That isn't an opinion, thats just ignorance. Anyone who hasn't ever stepped foot into park slope or brooklyn heights or the older parts of tribeca and west village have no clue what NYC is about. Calling "Midtown" new york city is just plain stupid. Midtown is the worst place in the entire world. Thats why no actual new yorker does anything there except go into their office. And maybe is it possible that because most people here are 23 year olds who have no connection to the city they might be skewed on the type of city it is? Shit, if all I saw was murray hill, I would hate this town too. Once you actually live somewhere and explore it you find the cool places. Thats what happens when you live somewhere. I lived in London for a year, and found the places I love early because I was willing to explore. That means walking around a ton and getting lost, and eventually finding the awesome random places that make a city home. I suggest you do the same.

    So this weekend, instead of gettin bombed at Mercury Bar, get a drink at Maialino, walk around gramercy, go to sleep, then get up and walk on Greenwich st. below canal and see a cool part of NYC. That walk is one of hundreds of cool parts of NYC. Just breathe in the old warehouse architecture, and see how actual new yorkers live. Or just hang out on the 23rd floor of some shitty murray hill apartment building. Your choice.

    Until you do that, quit your bitching and buy some peanut butter. Mice love that shit.

    I actually totally agree, anything above 23rd street is just soulless in my opinion. Seriously, half of Manhattan looks the same. You can walk for 40 blocks and nothing changes. Granted, some areas of Manhattan do have a ton of character, SoHo, Tribeca, West Village, etc. I will give you that, but I find that when I am in Central London I actually want to go explore the different neighborhoods because they are all interesting, when I am in NYC I just don't have that same sense of curiosity or interest in my surroundings. And thank god someone else hates Murray Hill, I thought I was the only one. Absolutely no redeeming factors about that place, zero.

  • LeveragedTiger's picture

    Vancouver > all cities.

    "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

  • In reply to tupsi22
    happypantsmcgee's picture

    tupsi22:
    Yes, NYC is disgusting. But it toughens you up and you can live anywhere after that.

    What does this even mean? "Hey bro, heard you got transferred to the texarkana office. Sucks for you." "Nah man, I lived in NYC so I can live anywhere."

    If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

  • In reply to wanderer
    mfoste1's picture

    wanderer][quote=ANT:

    2) The homeless people, while fewer per capita than NYC, are more aggressive

    the homeless in boston are one of a kind, and quite creative in fact. I saw this one bum near cambridge once, who was holding a sign that read "im not gonna lie, its for a heineken".

    This other time, there was a black guy dressed in a suit ,looked pretty presentable, but he would go up to other white guys in suits and ask them for money, and when they refused he would accuse them of calling him a nigger, which then they would promptly give him money.

  • In reply to mfoste1
    RonBurgandy's picture

    mfoste1][quote=wanderer:
    ANT:

    2) The homeless people, while fewer per capita than NYC, are more aggressive

    the homeless in boston are one of a kind, and quite creative in fact. I saw this one bum near cambridge once, who was holding a sign that read "im not gonna lie, its for a heineken".

    This other time, there was a black guy dressed in a suit ,looked pretty presentable, but he would go up to other white guys in suits and ask them for money, and when they refused he would accuse them of calling him a nigger, which then they would promptly give him money.

    Pretty funny approach. I'd just say 'GFY' if he tried to pull that sh*t on me.

  • kmzz's picture

    u guys should move to LA/OC/SD

    yes everyone complains about the traffic here in LA but if you live and work on the west side it's not that bad since everywhere you'd want to go (eat, shop, party, etc) is in the area anyway

  • West Coast rainmaker's picture

    New York is a marvel of civil engineering...but it is a shame that such infrastructure is necessary, and often inadequate.

    The subway is probably the best in the US, but still inconvenient when you think about it: it might take 40 minutes to get from Tribeca to the UES (4-5 miles). It just doesn't compare to driving. Of course, driving is nearly as slow and cost prohibitive in NYC. You only hear about how easy the commute is in NYC because most bankers live blocks from their offices. And the above comments about the subway being hot in the summer are dead on. I am surprised that (more) people don't get heat stroke down there from humidity and 100+ degree heat.

    The CoL is retarded. RE prices never really burst like they did in the rest of the country (don't mention Stuy Town). Everything else is priced at a premium too. Bankers are doubly screwed, since we can't exactly go all the way to Queens or Jersey to shop at a big box store.

    If you actually want to stay in NYC long term, you are going to need to figure in the cost of at least 4 years of private school (50k/year) for your kid...not that I would particularly want my kid to grow up in the city.

    SF, LA, Boston, Chicago, Miami, and even Houston are all expensive relative to middle America. But they are nothing compared to NYC. You can get a better quality of life for far less cash. Yea, you might only have 1 Ethiopian restaurant in Houston, and you might not have a museum as famous as the Met. But what does that matter when you are working 100+ hours per week?

    For me, I care about: weather, nightlife (to a limited extent, and CoL. New York falls short on all three metrics. I am just holding out for a megafund / BB to open a Santa Barbara office.

  • ibdreamer's picture

    Haha u remind me of myself a year back when all i wanted to get out of NY. I'm a native btw. If you hate it that much, get a new job & move or transfer positions.

    btw ANT you're a sick fuck for sayin casey anthony is hot. the only time she'll be hot is when her ass is burnin in hell....

  • In reply to ProdigyOfZen
    sharks9022's picture

    ProdigyOfZen:
    Wow you guys are missing out.

    I am telling you Dallas or Austin is the place to be. In Dallas its like 7 out of every 10 girls is hot and I haven't even dated a white american girl since I was 17 so that is saying something if I think those white girls are hot.

    The cost of living is freaking ridiculous. We are THE PLACE to be for Oil and Energy (Houston as well) and those jobs pay extremely well.

    Dallas has the most F500 Headquarted companies in the US. We are like the 4th or 5th largest Hedge Fund/PE firm city in the US. So those jobs pay bank.

    I recently was looking at a 3 bedroom, 2.5 bath 1600 square foot condo in a great area of town where everyone wants to live and the asking price? 199k! I bet I can get it for less than that.

    Your standard of living here is ridiculous. I know a girl who get a decent condo in a great area of town for 70k, here monthly payment is about 350 bucks.

    Dallas doesnt have water except for the man made lakes and we are far from a lot of places but decently close to the Caribbean.

    Austin is ridiculous and growing like crazy. The downtown area is snazzy and it has a college town feel. The city has very little crime, the colorado river flowing through downtown and multiple lakes plus the hill country. Austin is making itself out to be a mini silicon valley plus mini hollywood.

    It has tons of tech firms and a growing PE/Hedge Fund community.

    You guys are missing out......

    Not to mention the tons of hot girls and in 2010 Austin and Dallas were picked as #1 and #2 most sexually active cities in the US.

    boooyah

    It really is too bad that everyone reads Liar's Poker and then just takes a dump on Dallas. I love it here.

  • In reply to ivoteforthatguy
    Otter.'s picture

    ivoteforthatguy:
    Boston and SF are beautiful, clean cities

    Chicago and NYC are feral shitholes

    Don't even conflate them. No comparison at all.

    SF is definitely clean and I love the city, but you're kidding yourself if you think it doesn't have a huge amount of homeless people.

    "The city of San Francisco, California, due to its mild climate and its social programs that have provided cash payments for homeless individuals, is often considered the homelessness capital of the United States."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_the_U...

    Hi, Eric Stratton, rush chairman, damn glad to meet you.

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