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If I took Adderall in HS I wouldve gone to an Ivy
 

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everyman
      EN
 
(Senior Monkey, 84
 
Points)
 on 7/7/12 at 1:00pm
adderall ivy league school?

I'm 26 and was recently legitimately diagnosed with ADD and after taking Adderall now for a couple months I am getting projects done 3x more efficiently than before, my concentration bursts are 5x longer (used to get distracted every 5 minutes, now I can sit and focus on the thought process of a project for ~45-60 consecutive minutes no problem).

Now I may not have gotten into Harvard, but if I had had this diagnosed sooner and started taking something back in HS I wouldnt have ended up at no-name state U.

Yes hard work is a HUGE part of getting into a top school, but having a clinically diagnosed problem (some form of ADHD) does put one at a proven disadvantage, imo.

I've still done pretty good for myself, but shit wouldve been a lot of easier and there's probably a few more BIG projects I couldve accomplished by now.

I think when prescribed / used properly - Adderall can work wonders.

**Update: Please read further as I've clarified some things in the comments below**

First person that comes out this fucking door gets a... gets a *lead salad*, you understand?
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blastoise's picture

hey how does one get not

blastoise
      O
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 4,380
 
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 on 7/6/12 at 7:56pm

hey

how does one get not legitimately diagnosed? under obama care will i get legitimately diagnosed?

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Abdel's picture

Look at Chael Sonnen, he

Abdel
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(Neanderthal, 2,064
 
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 on 7/6/12 at 8:15pm

Look at Chael Sonnen, he cheated by taking some illicit product (TRT) and still lost to hard working Anderson Silva.

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$10 says this post was

Downeasta
      IB
 
(Senior Baboon, 244
 
Points)
 on 7/6/12 at 8:16pm

$10 says this post was written during an Adderall-fueled burst of euphoria.

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SECfinance's picture

What is the point of this

SECfinance
      IB
 
(King Kong, 1,415
 
Points)
 on 7/6/12 at 8:16pm

What is the point of this post? To make yourself feel better?

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This reminds me of the

wannabeaballer
      O
 
(Senior Orangutan, 455
 
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 on 7/6/12 at 8:56pm

This reminds me of the farmers who up the steroid content that they feed their livestock so they can yield more meat at slaughter.

You are taking a drug to appease your master.

Gun Control Discussion

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Downeasta: $10 says this post

everyman
      EN
 
(Senior Monkey, 84
 
Points)
 on 7/6/12 at 9:08pm
Downeasta:

$10 says this post was written during an Adderall-fueled burst of euphoria.

adderall fueled yes, euphoria no

First person that comes out this fucking door gets a... gets a *lead salad*, you understand?

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SECfinance: What is the point

everyman
      EN
 
(Senior Monkey, 84
 
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 on 7/6/12 at 9:11pm
SECfinance:

What is the point of this post? To make yourself feel better?

I guess I didn't make it clear - I think Adderall gets a bad rap on here sometimes (see comments on http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/blog/how-rampant-is...) but there are really times when it is useful, and the need for it should be diagnosed earlier to potentially improve the quality of one's life

First person that comes out this fucking door gets a... gets a *lead salad*, you understand?

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Have you noticed any side

mhurricane
     
 
(Senior Orangutan, 438
 
Points)
 on 7/6/12 at 10:12pm

Have you noticed any side effects? I am strongly considering adderall, too.

The difference between successful people and others is largely a habit - a controlled habit of doing every task better, faster and more efficiently.

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My only issue is that ADHD

Virginia Tech 4ever
      EN
 
 
(Neanderthal, 2,319
 
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 on 7/6/12 at 10:27pm

My only issue is that ADHD really isn't a "disorder" as much as it's a personality trait. I have ADHD and it is fundamental to my personality--how I struggle to hold long conversations because of distraction but also how the trait helps me hyperfocus on things I'm really interested in for countless hours--not just 60 minute bursts but half day bursts. ADHD is an ancient trait from when we were hunters and gatherers, and it typically affects males. The trait allowed the human male to hyperfocus on the dangerous, critical task of hunting. It's simply a largely obsolete trait in today's world.

Would life be easier without ADHD? Sure. But I wouldn't be who I am today without it--it is a trait that is fundamental to who I am and to how I've developed.

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Nice. You're like a poster

bankerella
      IB
 
 
(King Kong, 1,863
 
Points)
 on 7/6/12 at 10:29pm

Nice. You're like a poster boy for Shire Pharmaceuticals' go-to-market strategy. You know, the one they rolled out when the patent ran out on Adderall and they switched to marketing Vyvanse. They're working hard on legitimizing and normalizing amphetamine use in the older twenties and early thirties, particularly among people who've never used before.

You can bet the product management team would be thrilled to read this. "I coulda gone to Harvard if only I'd discovered amphetamines sooner! Ask your doctor for a legitimate clinical diagnosis today!" They couldn't have gotten a better plug out of you if they'd paid you a million bucks.

Not hating, not judging, just saying.

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Virginia Tech 4ever: My only

chicandtoughness
      CS
 
 
(Senior Gorilla, 980
 
Points)
 on 7/6/12 at 10:38pm
Virginia Tech 4ever:

My only issue is that ADHD really isn't a "disorder" as much as it's a personality trait. I have ADHD and it is fundamental to my personality--how I struggle to hold long conversations because of distraction but also how the trait helps me hyperfocus on things I'm really interested in for countless hours--not just 60 minute bursts but half day bursts. ADHD is an ancient trait from when we were hunters and gatherers, and it typically affects males. The trait allowed the human male to hyperfocus on the dangerous, critical task of hunting. It's simply a largely obsolete trait in today's world.
Would life be easier without ADHD? Sure. But I wouldn't be who I am today without it--it is a trait that is fundamental to who I am and to how I've developed.

Took the words right out of my mouth; this is exactly my situation and opinion.

"Accept no one's definition of your life; define yourself."
Currently: quantitative marketing/business development
Previously: management consulting, investment banking

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blastoise's picture

except god made us we didn't

blastoise
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(Senior Neanderthal, 4,380
 
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 on 7/6/12 at 10:48pm

except god made us we didn't evolve they even found his sperm cell: god particle

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blackrainn's picture

No, just no. The people I

blackrainn
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(Orangutan, 354
 
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 on 7/7/12 at 2:40am

No, just no.

The people I know at Harvard are not adderall users (at least to any major extent).

The people doing good work are the ones working hard on problems for months or even years. Adderall won't help you do that.

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kidflash's picture

I kind of agree with this

kidflash
      IB
 
(Gorilla, 669
 
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 on 7/7/12 at 4:40am

I kind of agree with this sentiment. I've always been a bright kid, and I'm at a lower target right now. However, my family has a history of stuff like ADHD, and I was also recently diagnosed. I wonder where I would be if I had realized this a couple of years earlier.

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Dude, change the attitude

Culcet
      EN
 
(Senior Orangutan, 407
 
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 on 7/7/12 at 9:58pm

Dude, change the attitude ASAP.

I'm not judging, as I've had this problem before. And it is unfair that some people get to use Adderall while others don't (for what its worth, I'm not one of them). But keep in mind that other people are getting laid, working out, becoming more knowledgeable about the markets, traveling the world, making new friends, getting laid, learning new hobbies, mastering foreign languages and getting laid while you think "if only". Stop now.

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wannabeaballer: You are

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First person that comes out this fucking door gets a... gets a *lead salad*, you understand?

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Like baseball, your name

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everyman: mhurricane: Have

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 on 7/7/12 at 1:32pm

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"Unbelievably Believable" -- RG3

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bigge2win: Like baseball,

everyman
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 on 7/7/12 at 1:57pm

First person that comes out this fucking door gets a... gets a *lead salad*, you understand?

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21

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 on 7/7/12 at 1:59pm

First person that comes out this fucking door gets a... gets a *lead salad*, you understand?

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everyman: bigge2win: Like

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How hard was it to get the

mhurricane
     
 
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 on 7/7/12 at 2:32pm

The difference between successful people and others is largely a habit - a controlled habit of doing every task better, faster and more efficiently.

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Sometimes in college when I

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 on 7/7/12 at 2:58pm

I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum.

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mhurricane: How hard was it

21 Lives
     
 
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My WSO Blog

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Screw Adderall, lets find

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ADHD has been proven to be a

Gangsta Killah Blood
     
 
(Monkey, 40
 
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 on 7/7/12 at 4:04pm
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Gangsta Killah Blood: ADHD

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A lot of people have trouble

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Please allow me to be the

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Vtech is bang on, I was

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(Monkey, 39
 
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I wish I had a steaming ball

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(Monkey, 39
 
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It may be the case for the

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mhurricane: Have you noticed

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Virginia Tech

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Gangsta Killah

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(Neanderthal, 2,319
 
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Even if I did have ADHD

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Virginia Tech

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3176401: Even if I did have

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Virginia Tech 4ever: My only

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bankerella: Nice. You're

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      HF
 
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 4,948
 
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 on 7/9/12 at 10:48am

I hate victims who respect their executioners

Follow BH & Co. on Twitter: @DumbLuckCapital
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Angus

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TL;DR Summary: As someone who

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3176401: You think I'm

BlackHat
      HF
 
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 4,948
 
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 on 7/11/12 at 7:25am

I hate victims who respect their executioners

Follow BH & Co. on Twitter: @DumbLuckCapital
twitter.com/DumbLuckCapital

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3176401: Angus

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 on 7/11/12 at 6:35pm
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3176401: You think I'm

bankerella
      IB
 
 
(King Kong, 1,863
 
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 on 7/11/12 at 8:55pm

See my other WSO blog posts

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The only real credibility on

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Aimez: The only real

bankerella
      IB
 
 
(King Kong, 1,863
 
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 on 7/12/12 at 1:12am

See my other WSO blog posts

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Like I said, addreall is a

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3176401: Like I said,

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bankerella: 3176401: You

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