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Congrats on a great success story!

Just read another post called "Finally Got a Job" where the user talks of all the helpful things he / she found on WSO in order to help secure a job. Here is the post (below) and you will see lots of congrats, but there is one comment by "eyelikecheese" that points out that WSO can be helpful, but that there are more trolls than helpers on the site and these hurt / confuse / misinform and worse, slander.

http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/finally-got-...

I think we ALL agree with "eyelikecheese" and believe that WSO is a great forum, except for mindless trolls that use the forum to their own selfish and vindictive needs (jimbojones / UBS, for example and many others). There should be a MAJOR effort by Patrick and the moderators to STOP those that troll to either hurt or shamelessly promote certain firms.

I do not know if WSO just likes the pageviews or likes making people irate or likes simply to provide a forum for little minds to rant about things that hurt the integrity of WSO, but I can tell you that many users have left or no longer use the site due to the negative or self promotional chatter on the site.

This type of behavior only KILLS the integrity of the site. Young budding professionals don't know what to believe and likely get very hurt by the negativity on WSO.

Patrick, you should make it very clear that you are going to clean up the site, clean up its act and strongly discourage and police bad behavior. I do not believe monkey shit will work, as no one has any to throw around and monkey shitting still leaves these posts up on the site and poison it.

Please take some action to save the site, providing more useful content and less useless content that taints anything good on the site itself.

Others agree?

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Dude, for the love of fuck.

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Dude, for the love of fuck. People are going to be annoying. Welcome to real life. Jimbo annoys me as much as anyone else but I can live through the 2 seconds it takes me to breeze over his post. This site just killed it in terms of positive publicity this week and has been an invaluable resource to tons of people. In addition to the 40k users that are registered, there are probably 5 times that number who come here for information and resources. Who cares if a couple people want to make stupid comments. This isn't CapIQ or any of the other countless database type things out there that exist only for hard factual information. This is as much for entertainment and bullshitting with people in the industry as it is for learning more about the field. There is no way for Patrick to keep people for posting annoying shit. The accredited user symbol and post history are both ways you can sift through the nonsense. If you want a place to get straight information and stuff like that use other places. This site is a great place to get info as well as kill time at work, school, home, whatever. Grab some sack and stop bitching.

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RadarBanker's picture

I agree w OP. HPM loves

RadarBanker
     
 
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 on 10/18/10 at 2:02pm

I agree w OP. HPM loves trolls I guess. Pooping on HPM makes my day. POOP!

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MeNeverSleeps's picture

happy has a point in that we

MeNeverSleeps
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 on 10/18/10 at 2:10pm

happy has a point in that we all need to police the site and patrick can certainly not read every thread, but i also agree with the orig poster in that the trolls on this site have really degraded things and provided a forum for assinine and worthless postings. die trolls and those that support them.

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BananaBoy's picture

The fact is that people are

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The fact is that people are going to say what they are going to say.

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happypantsmcgee's picture

haha damn...guess I'm in the

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 on 10/18/10 at 2:21pm

haha damn...guess I'm in the minority on this one.

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definitely the minority

DoubleTrouble
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definitely the minority

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WallStreetOasis.com's picture

Hey guys - thanks for the

WallStreetOasis.com
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 on 10/18/10 at 2:32pm

Hey guys - thanks for the comments. I think we will never be able to completely eliminate trolls 100%, and I think it is important to realize that people define trolling differently.

Every year around October we get a rush on new college students looking to break into Wall Street and our #s of "trolls" increase...and every year (so far) we have been able to still keep things under control.

While I agree we need to do better, I still think 80%+ of the threads+comments on here are either genuine questions or provide genuine, well thought out answers. Sure, we will have some threads asking to rank different banks which turns into a pissing contest, but where do we draw the line? Do we delete a thread just because someone asks to rank a bank? Then do we delete threads that are asking repetitive questions even though we just dramatically improved our search module (or lock them so no more comments can be posted)?

I think the line becomes very grey so it is not easy, but we are improving (may not seem like it because of all the new --and sometimes immature-- users). We just installed a new Spam filter called Mollum 3 days ago that has been working wonders to reduce the spam on the site.

I also have a great group of moderators that help keep threads in the right place, but we can always use more. Please PM if interested as I can always use help here.

In terms of "self-promotional chatter" can you be more specific? You mean people talking up where they work? I don't think we'll ever be able to police or change that. That is human nature. Just like we wont ever be able to fully eliminate the non-target vs. Ivy debates that occasionally pop up.

In terms of eliminating obvious trolls, we do that regularly. We have probably blocked over 100+ users since the site started. We don't like to over censor, and usually give people a few chances before blocking them, but it does happen. Again, it really is a questions of how much tolerance we give. I'm open to opinions and open to banning more of the "troll-like" members, but it's not so black and white. Some of our most vulgar users are also our most knowledgeable, so blocking someone because of language in my opinion is counterproductive.

Just some of my thoughts - I welcome others...

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happypantsmcgee's picture

I'd offer to be a moderator

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I'd offer to be a moderator but I just got defecated on more than a porta-pooty in the jungle

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San Franciscan's picture

I'm a mod and here's my

San Franciscan
     
 
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 on 10/18/10 at 2:50pm

I'm a mod and here's my reasoning for NOT over-regulating troll posts.

Where does one draw the line between when someone is trolling and when someone is just being earnest and ignorant? Furthermore, overregulation of the trolls will lead to quick judgments that may lead to loss of information which is actually relevant.

On the next level, all troll posts are not create equal. I can maybe see the logic in deleting a thread that does NOTHING but bash UBS, but even then there's little need to regulate. It's everyone's duty to discuss each thread and to point out incorrect information. It's like capitalism for ideas, the best ones will be recognized and voiced en masse. If a reader deigns only to read the OP, it's his own fault.

On the other hand, some of WSO's most popular posts have been troll-like in nature. I enjoyed all the blumie posts and most recently thought that the Exeter resume was hilariously clever. As a frequent user, you can only watch the same EXACT questions get asked and answered so many times before calling it quits and realizing you've seen everything this site has to offer. I hate to say it, but the occasional troll post actually keeps things interesting and a lot can be learned from all the comments which follow. Besides, a lot of the entertaining trolls are so hilariously obvious that a person who falls for it probably isn't going to break in anyway.

Perhaps we should establish the specific type of posts you are referring to? I feel few would argue that the blumies of the world are doing damage to this site.

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feenans's picture

why not make a like/dislike

feenans
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 on 10/18/10 at 2:51pm

why not make a like/dislike button (or maybe "true that" / "bullshit" ) on every post, and set a certain negative threshold that will grey out the post so that you could still read it, but also it is apparently identified as trolling.
They have something like this on engadget I think, and the new comments on dealbreaker.
If buttons are AJAX and all visitors are able to vote, you should get a clear and easy indication on the quality of every posts.
This is subject to trolling in itself, of course, but you can have some kind of smart system of weighting the votes based on your rank/silver bananas.

..basically idea being that this forum should be open to all kinds of content including bullshit, which I personally like, but also has a way of identifying quality posts not to confuse the visitors.

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feenans wrote: why not make a

San Franciscan
     
 
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 on 10/18/10 at 2:53pm
feenans:

why not make a like/dislike button (or maybe "true that" / "bullshit" ) on every post, and set a certain negative threshold that will grey out the post so that you could still read it, but also it is apparently identified as trolling.
They have something like this on engadget I think, and the new comments on dealbreaker.
If buttons are AJAX and all visitors are able to vote, you should get a clear and easy indication on the quality of every posts.
This is subject to trolling in itself, of course, but you can have some kind of smart system of weighting the votes based on your rank/silver bananas.

..basically idea being that this forum should be open to all kinds of content including bullshit, which I personally like, but also has a way of identifying quality posts not to confuse the visitors.

I like where feenans is going with this. +1 SB.

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Midas Mulligan Magoo's picture

some of you guys need a trip

Midas Mulligan Magoo
     
 
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 on 10/18/10 at 3:14pm

some of you guys need a trip to the local rub'n'tug, trolltertainment is what this great nation was built upon

Where I unload on Twits and take verbal S***s

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StanTheMan87's picture

New users would never

StanTheMan87
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 on 10/18/10 at 3:51pm

New users would never understand who's a troll and who isn't at first, and people genuinely start believing that UBS is a bad firm (I did, until I checked out league tables / recent deals / analysts who go to places like KKR etc. after this year). It's not about the time reading a troll's posts its about how it spreads misformation to those who arent aware

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blastoise's picture

Ok so let's say we don't have

blastoise
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 on 10/18/10 at 4:01pm

Ok so let's say we don't have trolls wtf do u rreally want to month posts about what r my. Exit opps?

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feenans wrote: why not make a

Billy Ray Valentine
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 on 10/18/10 at 4:18pm
feenans:

why not make a like/dislike button (or maybe "true that" / "bullshit" ) on every post, and set a certain negative threshold that will grey out the post so that you could still read it, but also it is apparently identified as trolling.
They have something like this on engadget I think, and the new comments on dealbreaker.
If buttons are AJAX and all visitors are able to vote, you should get a clear and easy indication on the quality of every posts.
This is subject to trolling in itself, of course, but you can have some kind of smart system of weighting the votes based on your rank/silver bananas.

..basically idea being that this forum should be open to all kinds of content including bullshit, which I personally like, but also has a way of identifying quality posts not to confuse the visitors.

I think this is a great option, but would make it only available to specific users (those who add value, know what they are talking about, maybe just the certified users?).

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MrSunKing's picture

Patrick Just one suggestion..

MrSunKing
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 on 10/18/10 at 4:44pm
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MeNeverSleeps's picture

SILVER BANANAS FOR FANS OF

MeNeverSleeps
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no homo's picture

I've been on other successful

no homo
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I am with Happy. Grow the

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FYI, just read through a

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Wait we can have two

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squirtlez wrote: Wait we can

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MrSunKing wrote: Patrick Just

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yup, sidekickz was blocked

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