Is City University of New York, Baruch College MBA good?
From Wiki:
1) In America's Best Colleges 2012, Baruch was ranked #3 public, and 36th Master's University in by U.S. News & World Report.
2) Baruch's MBA Program was one of the top 10 "With Most Financial Value at Graduation" (2011) and an overall rank of 97 in the USA by U.S. News & World Report.
3) Baruch is among the Top 10% of U.S. colleges according to The Princeton Review, which selected the College for inclusion in "The Best 368 Colleges: 2009 Edition." It is also labeled as one of the nation's best value undergraduate institutions in 2008, and in 2009 "Best Graduate Schools" and "Best Business Schools" listings.
4) Baruch's Part-Time MBA is ranked #17 in the nation by U.S. News & World Report ("America's Best Graduate Schools 2007"), making it #2 in New York City. The Full-Time MBA was ranked in the Top 3 of New York programs. Both were the only ranked public programs in New York State.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_College
Is it considered a target sch? I mean it's in New York too right?
For a full-time MBA, the only
For a full-time MBA, the only schools worth attending in NYC are Stern and Columbia.
I know many Zicklin MBAs in
I know many Zicklin MBAs in IB. It seems there are more alumni at Big4, Real Estate, and Hedge Funds.
Outside New York though, it's a no name.
I work here...whassup
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If you get in-state tuition
If you get in-state tuition and go part-time, it's worth it.
But if you can get into NYU or Columbia and have the money (not everybody does), just do yourself a favor and go there.
Work hard, play hard.
IlliniProgrammer: If you get
If you get in-state tuition and go part-time, it's worth it.
But if you can get into NYU or Columbia and have the money (not everybody does), just do yourself a favor and go there.
Since he asked whether it's a target school or not, I assume he's a career switcher of some sort, or at least someone who's worried about on-campus networking/recruiting. He will not find this at any part-time MBA program.
Generally speaking, a part-time MBA is great for the following reasons:
-- Your company is paying for it
-- Your company "requires" an advanced degree for promotion
-- You're doing it for your own edification/education
That's about it.
holla_back: Generally
Generally speaking, a part-time MBA is great for the following reasons:
-- Your company is paying for it
-- Your company "requires" an advanced degree for promotion
-- You're doing it for your own edification/education
That's about it.
Maybe. It is always nice to have letters after your name and Baruch gets a lot of respect in the F500 world.
Work hard, play hard.
IlliniProgrammer: holla_bac
Generally speaking, a part-time MBA is great for the following reasons:
-- Your company is paying for it
-- Your company "requires" an advanced degree for promotion
-- You're doing it for your own edification/education
That's about it.
Maybe. It is always nice to have letters after your name and Baruch gets a lot of respect in the F500 world.
True, but you really have to know what you're getting into here. It's not the type of thing that will automatically open doors like attending a competitive full-time MBA program would.
Academically speaking Baruch
Academically speaking Baruch is very solid, and the tuition if you're a NY state resident is just a steal compared to the name schools. There are some great professors if you know whom to look for (a number also teach at NYU or Columbia), and the grading curve (and hence the competitiveness) is not as generous as with the name schools that have more pressure to give out A's because the students are paying so much. There is a lot of group work, and if you want there is also a lock-step cohort full time program as well as a part time program.
The biggest problem with Baruch is that you're not going to get any front office recruitment there at all. You do get some middle office recruitment (e.g. risk management), but that's it. There are alums, events, etc. but you really have to do all the hustling on your own.
There is one exception, the MFE program. That is a top five rated financial engineering program, and major banks and hedge funds come to recruit, but admission is very competitive. Tuition is a steal, just like with the MBA.
However, before you decide to throw in your lot with Columbia or NYU and take on that debt, think twice. I talked to someone who worked at a top bulge bracket in HR, and they said that both Columbia and NYU were at 'the bottom of the list' in terms of who they recruited for their associate positions (you read that right). And that was in the pre-crisis days.
Not too long ago I spoke to some Columbia MBAs, and they were complaining that it was very hard for them to get a decent front office position, that competition for slots is at an all time high. These people are sitting with six figure loans on their books and are looking at places where they previously wouldn't even bother. A significant number are moving out of finance and going into places like tech, doing startups, etc. So unless you're already a very strong candidate before going in, think carefully if you really want to take on that risk.
If you really, really want to be sure you have a solid chance with the major firms, the only schools that appear to do the magic are Harvard, Stanford, and Wharton. Outside of that, its increasingly becoming riskier.
Of course it will be tougher to break in with Baruch than with NYU/Columbia on your resume, and the latter schools have more alums in high places, but I question whether the extra tuition paid increases your chances by the same proportion.
Depends somewhat on what you
Depends somewhat on what you want to do post MBA and where. Staying regional works best in most cases. Do some research to see if your targeted post MBA employers recruit at Baruch and/or how many Baruch alumni work in your targeted industry or in your targeted company.
Bryant Michaels
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