IU (Kelley) vs. Middlebury
I'm currently an international student going to high school in NY.
I was recently admitted to IU Kelley. I'm considering applying ED II to Middlebury. The problem is ED II is binding so I need to be sure Middlebury will help me get a job in IBD. Is one better than the other?
At Kelley I'll be studying Finance and will hopefully join the Investment Banking Workshop.
At Middlebury I'll be majoring in Economics.
As an International Student, which will help me land an offer with a BB?
Go to Middlebury. Much better overall university, solid lifestyle, and one of the tightest knit alumni networks around. Kelley does place into IBD and isn't a bad option, but Middlebury is superior for your goals.
That's true but he should also consider that Indiana has a fun state-school culture. Also, if you are confident you can do well and get into the IB workshop, it places very well into BB's and EB's. Just from a quick look at linkedin, plenty of kids go into JPM, MS, Moelis, Lazard, PWP, etc.
Both are good options, key is you need to ask yourself what you want in a college experience as the two are such different schools. I went to a small LAC and loved it but it's definitely not for everyone.
Midd. I go to a similar nescac school and can say bulge bracket banks recruit pretty heavily from Williams, Amherst, Midd, etc. You will be more limited at top boutiques, but Midd Econ is a typical route for an aspiring BB IBD liberal arts student.
I am currently at Kelley so my opinion may be bias, but I know tons of people who have placed in IBD at BBs. It's all going to depend on your drive and ability to network.
Middlebury. Both place well but midd is a cooler school IMO
Midd. The network is stupidly powerful
+1, this 100%
The Kelley kid who gets a top tier IBD gig is likely a grinder who was in the schools investment banking club and doesn't have a good perception of "fun." If you're not in the investment banking club, you'll have a tough time landing IBD and the club takes ~50 people a year.
The Midd kid who gets a top tier IBD gig is either connected in his/her own right or successfully utilized the alumni network. Midd hands down - you'll have a baller 4 years of parties, have a liberal arts education that makes you more interesting to talk to, and alum are powerful and loyal.
Data point: A two second Google search for Middlebury + GS + IBD = John Waldron (head of IBD), George Lee (head of TMT), Susie Scher (head of investment grade cap markets), and Ray Strong (former GS, now at Lazard).
A two second Google search for Indiana / Kelley + GS + IBD = a few analysts.
Midd hands down for NYC IBD and if banking doesn't work out, you can easily get top consulting and tech oppts. so much less down side.
Both can land you an offer to a BB. If I were in your situation, I would go with Kelley for a funner college experience at the same time.
I'm in hs as well but here's my take:
The choice is very dependent on your cultural preferences. Also Indiana would probably be cheaper depending on how much aid you expect from Midd, In general, this data from Amherst should give you an idea Midd's placement https://www.amherst.edu/system/files/media/LoebCenter_AnnualReport_2015…. This should show you that if consulting is a possibility pick the LAC.
I would personally pick Indiana because I got the 11k dean's scholarship bringing COA down to 34k (Midd would give me zero aid).
Have you considered ED II Vanderbilt? Doesn't seem like it would be much more of a reach compared to Middlebury.
I'd say Middlebury. Better experience, greater academic prestige, similar IB placement imo.
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