Ivey MSC with Management
Hey guys.
So I was considering this program, along with the MSF's I am applying to as I want to keep my options open because I dont have a great finance background and I dont know how well people like me place.
Anyone at this program or considering it or have good things to say!
Thanks
College junior now, also thinking about it. It seems highly ranked according to
http://www.mymimapp.com/2010/12/masters-in-management-rankings-2011/
But to be fair, I'm not sure how popular these type of programs are. Most of the schools are in Europe.
Is this a new program? Can anyone else comment and perhaps provide specifics?
It's been HUGE in places like france for a while. Slowly growing internationally. Most useful for placements in Europe. Plenty of HEC MiM and LBS MiM cats with good spots in London for example...
This ranking system is pretty common in Europe.
http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-management
ESCP has just captured top spot, but most would rather the HEC brand to be honest.
I totaly agree with this 2 posts. Something to considerer too is where to you want to live ? LSE is the best (with Oxbridge) if you want to work in U.K, HEC/ESSEC/ESCP in France and HSG if you want to work in Switzerland or Germany. But with such high ranked programs you won't have any trouble to get ITW.
Ideally I want to work in US or Canada, hence this program or Duke's MMS, which looks great. The admissions dept seemed vague on their placements at Ivey, mentioning its a new program but with its reputation, I had thought it had been around for ages!
Any ideas?
The Ivey MSc is a direct-entry program requiring no previous full-time work experience. The program is designed to build on your previous undergraduate experience and prepare you for international career interest in an ever-evolving, multicultural business world. To get more information you may check this link http://www.thedegreeexperts.com/online-degree.aspx
I'm looking to have a crack at the entry level finance positions in Canada (preferrably geared towards an Investment Mgmt career track).
I had a look at the MSc Curriculum and it seems to have no modules on Finance, Accounting, Marketing, etc, what you expect on a standard business programme. It seems to be more of just International Business/Management (stuff like Cross cultural Management).
I'm not really looking for a well rounded curriculum as such (I treat this as more of an entry barrier). I'll probably have all 3 levels of the CFA cleared by the time I join Ivey's next MSc cohort (if I do, that is), but my concern was whether the curriculum would be an issue with recruiters. Ivey HBA seems to be the best business UG in Canada, and my question is whether I'd be considered an equally deserving candidate for the finance positions which HBAs usually get recruited to.
I'm banking on 1) The Brand 2) The Alumni Network 3) On Campus Recruiting opportunities.
What do you think? Is my skepticism about the curriculum warranted, or should I expect the Ivey network, brand & OCR to render it trivial?
MSc in Management degrees are highly valuable in Europe. As a matter of fact, they are much more regarded than MBAs. Many top North American schools have been considering the MSc programs simply because everyone has an MBA these days -MBA degrees are offered by some very low level schools and are easy to get. Therefore, do not be surprised if the MSc becomes the next big thing in N. America in the upcoming years.
Richard Ivey School of Business (a.k.a. Ivey) is arguably the top business school in Canada and amongst the top in the world. They are famous for their use of Business Case Method (just like Harvard). As a matter of fact, Ivey is the world's 2nd biggest publisher of business cases; Harvard is first.
Their undergraduate HBA degree is probably within top 3 in the world; very prestigious and difficult to get into. Their MBA program was always ranked high, but in recent times, Ivey has decided to move away from the MBA market and focus on their HBA and more recently MSc. Their PhD program is fairly good, but is exceptional when it comes to International Business (IB). Ivey has been known for its top-notch research in IB and has thus hired some of the world experts in the IB field. Anyone familiar with business research will have certainly heard of these names: Paul W. Beamish, Shih-Fen Chen, Chris Williams, etc - all whom are Ivey professors. Basicallly, if you want to do your PhD in IB, Ivey is everyone’s top desired choice.
Ivey MSc program is a relatively new program. Its first class intake was in 2010. However, do not be afraid of the fact that it is a new program. Ivey has two streams, the Ivey MSc in IB and the CEMS stream. CEMS is an alliance of schools across the world which grants students a Masters in Management (MIM). Therefore, any school which is a part of this program is required to follow a strict set of curriculum and guidelines. As such, Ivey’s program is well structured. If you are in the CEMS stream, Ivey will give you MSc in IB degree and CEMS will give you a MIM degree.
The Ivey MSc in IB specializes in IB and students are thought by world-renowned professors like Paul W. Beamish and Shih-Fen Chen. I have heard that their students are absolutely amazed by what they learn from these individuals. Their classes are split into two sections: first part of class is spent on discussion related journal articles. Because of the faculty associated with these classes, students are always reading most recent journal articles from top notch journals such as JIBS. Second half of the class simply a class discussion on a real business scenario (case study) which is related to the topic of the journal articles discussed earlier. Therefore, students get both practical and theoretical learning from these classes. Not to mention, the faculty are world experts in these fields, so you could literally ask them anything and get an ‘expert’ opinion.
What makes this program more unique is that students accepted in the CEMS stream are exchanged with students from others CEMS Alliance members like LSE, HEC Paris, St. Gallen, National University of Singapore, etc. Therefore, the class mix is truly international. In 2011, they had about 19 Ivey MSc Students and 27 exchange students from all over the world. Not to mention, some of their own 19 students were also from different countries; making the class very diverse … and those looking for an IB careers truly appreciate this diversity.
Because the program is fairly new, it will take 2-3 years for it to get its name out there and get recognized. I am certain that within this time frame, Ivey’s MSc will be within top 3 MSc programs in the world. It’s a great program, unique and different from MBAs, and you simply cannot go wrong with learning from world-renown IB researchers.
Only down-side to this program is that you might have a really difficult time getting in. Make sure you have decent grades, good gmat score and be ready to demonstrate how you have an exceptional international background (whether it would be languages, extensive travel, etc). I was told that in their 2011 intake class, it was a norm that students spoke at least 3 languages!
@MountainKing
The program does offer one accounting/finance-related course which is optional. However, it is tailored towards International Business and strategy in such environment. Cross-cultural communications is a small course ... but big part of it is stuff like Global Strategy, International Joint Ventures and Alliances, etc. So if you want a good education in finance, you are better off to do a MSc in Finance. (See my above post as to why this program is tailored around International Business).
They tent to say, "When you pay enormous education fees at Ivey, you are really paying for a brand name." And this indeed is true with this school. If your undergrad degree is in finance, this degree will give you that brand name you need to get a job, and you will be fine for getting a job in finance. However, if your undergrad is in something else, despite the Ivey name behind you, you may struggle to get a job in finance as you simply will have a weak background in that area.
Ivey is such a reputable school that they are a first recruitment stop for companies like: Goldman Sachs, BCG, Deloitte, McKinsey & Company, IBM, Johnston & Johnston, Proctor & Gamble, all major financial institutions in Canada, Bain & Company, Monitor group, PwC, etc…
Hope this helps you with your choice!
Does any one know the general strength of the applicant pool? Like avg. GPA and GMAT? Can't find this information anywhere
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