Job titles

Diffrent banks have different titles for employees.

I met one guy with a title executive and I didnt quite know what he did. Looked young so asked if was an analyst. Turned out he was a second year analyst so was called a executive. These titles really don't mean anything anymore do they. Some banks have Associate Directors which i think are equivelent to VP. MD, Assistant Director, executive director, AVP, VP.

Are there any others how do they equate from firm to firm.

 

Principal = Director / Senior VP, translated into "I am trying as hard as I can to win my own deals right now but haven't quite done it consistently enough to be called a MD yet"

Once more into the breach, dear friends.
 

What is an associate director equivelent to. In firms it varies from just above associate not quite VP, same as VP and or higher then VP.

When you hear Associate Director what do you associate what equivelent do you associate it with

 

AD is just like a Sr. VP same thing as mentioned above by indeed

"I am trying as hard as I can to win my own deals right now but haven't quite done it consistently enough to be called a MD yet"

 

Soon they'll be calling analysts "Analyst Directors"

If you've worked with them, you figure it out pretty quickly - just scan down a working group list and the hierarchy is fairly clear.

The conventional rank system is:

Analyst Associate Vice President Director/Executive Director/Senior Vice President/Principal Managing Director

Bear substitutes Managing Director for Dir/ED/SVP/P and SMD for MD, although I'm told that they do a 4 year track on VP with potentially a year off the MD track.

 

What if I´m an Investment Banker in an emerging market bank and my job title is Vice President but my responsibilities are of an Associate with some exceptions. Should I consider myself a VP? How should I sell/promote myself? What should I put on my resume?

 

Although you are an analyst, if you engineer financial models, work with teams in a deal related capacity and assemble pitchbooks, (to highlight some of the more common functions) regardless of your level of involvement and/or client/senior level exposure, you are an Investment Banker by description.

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vadremc:
Although you are an analyst, if you engineer financial models, work with teams in a deal related capacity and assemble pitchbooks, (to highlight some of the more common functions) regardless of your level of involvement and/or client/senior level exposure, you are an Investment Banker by description.

I guess you are saying that any involvement in the deal team would classify you as an i-banker by description.

 

then how bout the ppl that work in compliance, research, sales, operations.

do they count as ibankers? or just..researchers, salesmen, operationalist etc?

how does that work?

 

In my experience, you only refer to yourself as an Ibanker if you perform what I highlighted in the previous post. Most people in sales and operations refer to themselves as I-bankers and it really is a gray area when you examine it. They are by definition because of their association, but not by definitive practice. Most people would just say, "I work in IB ops", or "I'm on the sell side of IB."

Just know that if you are not engineering models, or working with client deals directly, to refer to yourself as an "I-banker" may be true, but individuals who do the work by definition, may quickly negate your associated reference.

"Cut the burger into thirds, place it on the fries, roll one up homey..." - Epic Meal Time
 

Titles such as Analyst and Associate mean different things to different people.I find both to be of little difference - Just layers.

Beyond that, once you become at least a V.P., then it becomes more of a significance in your life - you wouldn't want to be an MD at UBS and get a job offer from Goldman as a V.P.

When dealing outside of your company I feel that the most important representation of your skill level is the amount of experience you have coupled with the way you compose yourself.

 

There are no zeroes. Your just a first year analyst, second year, ect.

"Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, for knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind. And greed, you mark my words, will not only save Teldar Paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA."
 

Ok, the reason I ask is because I received a bonus survey report from a London recruitment agency (Cornell Partnership) recently, that provided details for Analyst 1/2/3 and Associate 0/1/2/3.. so wasn't sure how Associate 0 fitted in.

 
Risky Business:
Ok, the reason I ask is because I received a bonus survey report from a London recruitment agency (Cornell Partnership) recently, that provided details for Analyst 1/2/3 and Associate 0/1/2/3.. so wasn't sure how Associate 0 fitted in.

Associate 0 (some also call it A2A) would be the 6 months after Analyst->Associate promotion in the summer till Jan/Feb when you get a stub bonus, become Assoc 1 and join the Assoc/VP/ED etc bonus cycle

 
pivot1990:
If you are only in for th emoney you will never become associate haha

How so....pretty sure ohh 80%+ of the associates are in it for the money. Your trying to tell me they love there job l

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee WSO is not your personal search function.
 

Anyone in investment banking who isn't in it for the money, even if its a small reason, is lying to themselves.

"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw
 

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