Johns Hopkins MSF for Banking

What is JHUs reputation on the street, and how helpful would an MSF from JHU be for breaking into banking (not necessarily IBD)?

Just from a quick linkedin search, I have found a good amount of JHU IBD analysts (majority at Stifel...weird, I know), but I am curious to see what you guys think.

Also, how much would JHU's brand help for government (NSA, CIA, DoD) recruiting?

Thanks guys.

 

Carey is a new business school, but JHU is a very well respected university in the healthcare space. With a campus in Baltimore and DC, I would imagine they do well within their area. The full-time program is a good move and should do well as it gets going. I believe I just posted about it, but if not I will throw something up on my site soon.

They are recruiting for this years class so I would suggest reaching out them if you are interested. PM me if you'd like some more information.

 
CaliforniaAnalyst:
jhu undergrad can score bb jobs but not msf grads... jhu's msf even has very limited to none reputation in dc-baltimore finance. believe or not...

I would attribute this to Carey not focusing on a full-time MSF before this year. The MSF is ramping up for next year, but I have heard that career services at JHU in general is pretty weak. So you're saying JHU's brand wouldn't help at all?

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1) This is the first year JHU is doing a FT program. Before that they had a PT program with working people doing it and internationals. You are leveraging the Johns Hopkins brand, not the MSF degree.

Many recruiters don't know what an MSF is. It is a newish degree. You network with the schools name and reputation.

2) UVA's program is amazing, but limited to non business majors and highly selective. If you studied finance or accounting you are out of luck.

3) School choice is a lot more complex than just X or Y. What is your price sensitivity. How non target is your undergrad degree. What were your grades like. What is your ideal job and the job you will settle for. How competitive are you. Do you need an internship. What geographic location are you looking to work in.

Many things to consider.

4) @ Lamp - that is a laundry list of different programs. I'd advise against throwing shit against the wall and seeing what sticks. IMO, if you are looking at more than 3 schools with firm reasons why you want those schools your odds of achieving your career goals diminish.

Furthermore, applying for all those schools is a time suck, time which you could be spending networking, prepping your resume, lining up an internship, studying career guide.

You are also going to run into the issue of getting admitted to schools, depositing money and then getting admitted elsewhere and reneging. Expensive, time consuming and the lack of direction impacts your networking ability.

I think people need to truly realize how hard getting an IBD position is.

 

I love the Duke program, but people really need to realize it isn't a panacea for all their problems. You have a class of 100-110 students, many from top UG's and Duke UG's. You have competition from Duke UG's who have been interning and networking for 3-4 years and you have Duke MBA's on top of you.

Go look at the 2012 placements.

http://www.fuqua.duke.edu/documents/mba_recruiting/DukeMMSFinalEmployme…

Very nice to see the variety, but I see 10, maybe 15, top notch finance placements. This is including PJ and RayJay which I know some people on here shit on.

Basically 10% of the class is getting something super special. When you consider you have kids with Ivy undergrads or Duke undergrads you need to realize that the Duke brand isn't the end all be all.

So would I say Duke > Vanderbilt? No. It would depend on your goals, your financial situation, your interests and other elements.

 
TNA:
I love the Duke program, but people really need to realize it isn't a panacea for all their problems. You have a class of 100-110 students, many from top UG's and Duke UG's. You have competition from Duke UG's who have been interning and networking for 3-4 years and you have Duke MBA's on top of you.

Go look at the 2012 placements.

http://www.fuqua.duke.edu/documents/mba_recruiting/DukeMMSFinalEmployme…

Very nice to see the variety, but I see 10, maybe 15, top notch finance placements. This is including PJ and RayJay which I know some people on here shit on.

Basically 10% of the class is getting something super special. When you consider you have kids with Ivy undergrads or Duke undergrads you need to realize that the Duke brand isn't the end all be all.

So would I say Duke > Vanderbilt? No. It would depend on your goals, your financial situation, your interests and other elements.

I applied to Duke R2 and got dinged without an interview. From what I gathered from the students I spoke to, I had an above average profile. I also tend to agree with you TNA, I spoke to a Duke MBA student and overall he didn't seem to be impressed with the MMS students.

 
solius1:
TNA:

I love the Duke program, but people really need to realize it isn't a panacea for all their problems. You have a class of 100-110 students, many from top UG's and Duke UG's. You have competition from Duke UG's who have been interning and networking for 3-4 years and you have Duke MBA's on top of you.

Go look at the 2012 placements.

http://www.fuqua.duke.edu/documents/mba_recruiting...

Very nice to see the variety, but I see 10, maybe 15, top notch finance placements. This is including PJ and RayJay which I know some people on here shit on.

Basically 10% of the class is getting something super special. When you consider you have kids with Ivy undergrads or Duke undergrads you need to realize that the Duke brand isn't the end all be all.

So would I say Duke > Vanderbilt? No. It would depend on your goals, your financial situation, your interests and other elements.

I applied to Duke R2 and got dinged without an interview. From what I gathered from the students I spoke to, I had an above average profile.
I also tend to agree with you TNA, I spoke to a Duke MBA student and overall he didn't seem to be impressed with the MMS students.

What was your profile, if you don't mind me asking?

 
appyz168:

anyone got accepted by JHU MSF? would like more info.

Yes. I have mixed feelings so far regarding the OCR department. That being said, as ANT said, the brand is solid, particularly in the DC/Baltimore/Mid-Atlantic region. They simply need to ramp up with their networking/recruitment efforts since the following are in their backyard: T. Rowe Price, Stifel Nicolaus, US Trust, Northern Trust, IMF, World Bank, Wells Fargo, HSBC, Legg Mason, Morgan Stanley, UBS, etc. It's not BB IBD land but it's certainly not no-man's land either.
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Anybody who is domestic has a huge advantage coming out of hopkins. Great campus, great faculty, great name, but yes, be prepared to network but there are opportunities out there.

 

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