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What is JHUs reputation on the street, and how helpful would an MSF from JHU be for breaking into banking (not necessarily IBD)?

Just from a quick linkedin search, I have found a good amount of JHU IBD analysts (majority at Stifel...weird, I know), but I am curious to see what you guys think.

Also, how much would JHU's brand help for government (NSA, CIA, DoD) recruiting?

Thanks guys.

Comments (19)

  • mr.b's picture

    not that weird capital markets hq in baltimore

  • TNA's picture

    Carey is a new business school, but JHU is a very well respected university in the healthcare space. With a campus in Baltimore and DC, I would imagine they do well within their area. The full-time program is a good move and should do well as it gets going. I believe I just posted about it, but if not I will throw something up on my site soon.

    They are recruiting for this years class so I would suggest reaching out them if you are interested. PM me if you'd like some more information.

  • guyfromct's picture

    Hopkins is not the best choices, you'd be better off with Nova in the mid-Atlantic or Duke

  • CaliforniaAssociate's picture

    jhu undergrad can score bb jobs but not msf grads... jhu's msf even has very limited to none reputation in dc-baltimore finance. believe or not...

  • In reply to CaliforniaAssociate
    lasampdoria's picture

    CaliforniaAnalyst:
    jhu undergrad can score bb jobs but not msf grads... jhu's msf even has very limited to none reputation in dc-baltimore finance. believe or not...

    I would attribute this to Carey not focusing on a full-time MSF before this year. The MSF is ramping up for next year, but I have heard that career services at JHU in general is pretty weak. So you're saying JHU's brand wouldn't help at all?

    "Those who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."- Benjamin Franklin

  • In reply to lasampdoria
    CaliforniaAssociate's picture

    i would boldly say jhu brand wont help at all. btw, i see many non-target kids from california schools attend uva's master of commerce and successfully broke into bb ibd

  • In reply to CaliforniaAssociate
    lasampdoria's picture

    CaliforniaAnalyst:
    i would boldly say jhu brand wont help at all. btw, i see many non-target kids from california schools attend uva's master of commerce and successfully broke into bb ibd

    Damn.

    As a business UG, I was not eligible to apply to UVA's MCOM, otherwise I would have. Bummer.

    Based on your experience, of schools/programs listed below, which do you believe would give me the best shot at BB/MM IBD:

    Vanderbilt MSF
    Duke MMS
    Tulane MSF

    "Those who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."- Benjamin Franklin

  • TNA's picture

    1) This is the first year JHU is doing a FT program. Before that they had a PT program with working people doing it and internationals. You are leveraging the Johns Hopkins brand, not the MSF degree.

    Many recruiters don't know what an MSF is. It is a newish degree. You network with the schools name and reputation.

    2) UVA's program is amazing, but limited to non business majors and highly selective. If you studied finance or accounting you are out of luck.

    3) School choice is a lot more complex than just X or Y. What is your price sensitivity. How non target is your undergrad degree. What were your grades like. What is your ideal job and the job you will settle for. How competitive are you. Do you need an internship. What geographic location are you looking to work in.

    Many things to consider.

    4) @ Lamp - that is a laundry list of different programs. I'd advise against throwing shit against the wall and seeing what sticks. IMO, if you are looking at more than 3 schools with firm reasons why you want those schools your odds of achieving your career goals diminish.

    Furthermore, applying for all those schools is a time suck, time which you could be spending networking, prepping your resume, lining up an internship, studying career guide.

    You are also going to run into the issue of getting admitted to schools, depositing money and then getting admitted elsewhere and reneging. Expensive, time consuming and the lack of direction impacts your networking ability.

    I think people need to truly realize how hard getting an IBD position is.

  • lasampdoria's picture

    Bump. Would appreciate some JHU grads sounding off on the issue

    "Those who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."- Benjamin Franklin

  • Blax0r's picture

    I graduated before 2010, and I agree with CaliforniaAnalyst's sentiment. Feel free to PM me for more information.

  • In reply to lasampdoria
    Bullet-Tooth Tony's picture

    lasampdoria:
    CaliforniaAnalyst:
    i would boldly say jhu brand wont help at all. btw, i see many non-target kids from california schools attend uva's master of commerce and successfully broke into bb ibd

    Damn.

    As a business UG, I was not eligible to apply to UVA's MCOM, otherwise I would have. Bummer.

    Based on your experience, of schools/programs listed below, which do you believe would give me the best shot at BB/MM IBD:

    Vanderbilt MSF
    Duke MMS
    Tulane MSF

    Duke
    Vandy
    Tulane

    In that order. Realize though, Vandy and Tulane will have more of a presence in the SE. Not NYC.

  • TNA's picture

    I love the Duke program, but people really need to realize it isn't a panacea for all their problems. You have a class of 100-110 students, many from top UG's and Duke UG's. You have competition from Duke UG's who have been interning and networking for 3-4 years and you have Duke MBA's on top of you.

    Go look at the 2012 placements.
    http://www.fuqua.duke.edu/documents/mba_recruiting...

    Very nice to see the variety, but I see 10, maybe 15, top notch finance placements. This is including PJ and RayJay which I know some people on here shit on.

    Basically 10% of the class is getting something super special. When you consider you have kids with Ivy undergrads or Duke undergrads you need to realize that the Duke brand isn't the end all be all.

    So would I say Duke > Vanderbilt? No. It would depend on your goals, your financial situation, your interests and other elements.

  • In reply to TNA
    solius1's picture

    TNA:
    I love the Duke program, but people really need to realize it isn't a panacea for all their problems. You have a class of 100-110 students, many from top UG's and Duke UG's. You have competition from Duke UG's who have been interning and networking for 3-4 years and you have Duke MBA's on top of you.

    Go look at the 2012 placements.
    http://www.fuqua.duke.edu/documents/mba_recruiting...

    Very nice to see the variety, but I see 10, maybe 15, top notch finance placements. This is including PJ and RayJay which I know some people on here shit on.

    Basically 10% of the class is getting something super special. When you consider you have kids with Ivy undergrads or Duke undergrads you need to realize that the Duke brand isn't the end all be all.

    So would I say Duke > Vanderbilt? No. It would depend on your goals, your financial situation, your interests and other elements.

    I applied to Duke R2 and got dinged without an interview. From what I gathered from the students I spoke to, I had an above average profile.
    I also tend to agree with you TNA, I spoke to a Duke MBA student and overall he didn't seem to be impressed with the MMS students.

  • appyz168's picture

    anyone got accepted by JHU MSF? would like more info.

  • In reply to appyz168
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