Its very selective, and you really need an outstanding resume to be even considered. The one guy I know who did it interned at MS the following summer then went to BCG for FT, so it certainly opens up doors.

 
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I applied when I was a sophomore and didn't get in, despite top grades (3.8+) at an ivy, good ECs, etc.

My best thought is that the program is geared somewhat toward diversity as well. My friend did get into the program (she's an underrepresented minority female) and that's what she told me at least...that out of the few spots, they had 2 people from Morehouse and about 30-40% of the people in the program were black or Hispanic. They do have full white guys in the program, but I think it's really hard to get in as just an over-achieving white person at an ivy. You need to be class president or have a 4.0 (literally lol).

The "Honors" program even sounds like it's geared towards diversity. I think Morgan Stanley's sophomore program is just a standard program so you'll probably have a better chance there if you're not an underrepresented minority. Also, be sure to apply to Goldman through on-campus recruiting. GS takes sophomores into its IBD program through the same standard program as they take juniors.

 

I don't think that the Honors program is more geared towards "diversity" in the general sense than it's geared to target/non-target diversity. I went to the 2nd of the two superdays they had for it last year and my superday did not have one prototypical target school applicant in it, but I was told the first superday (they split it 50/50 in terms of quantity of people I was told, about 25 each) supposedly had almost all targets.

The impression that I got on what the Honors program did through the applicants in the final interview round was toss target/non-target aside and give those in a non-target a fairer chance than they usually do, as I'm inclined to think by what those on these boards say.

Dav, you seem like you think you should have gotten in and believe that this program was meant for diversity and that could be the reason an otherwise strong applicant like yourself didn't get in, but as far as I saw and went in the process, there wasn't any such favoritism.

 

I'm not bitter man, I had a great sophomore year internship and ended up at a top bank full-time later on. That was just my friend's observation..maybe she is wrong. It just struck me as odd that I, and a number of my friends (some with nearly 4.0 GPAs from Wharton, 1 even had a prior banking internship at Bear + 3.9 GPA) didn't even land an interview. The only two people I know who got even interviews were minorities (one got an offer).

Did you do the Honors program? Are you an underrepresented minority, if you don't mind me asking?

 
dav3100:
The only two people I know who even got interviews were minorities (one got an offer)

Did you do the Honors program? Are you an underrepresented minority, if you don't mind me asking?

You are as offensive and crude as your ill founded logic and belief that "majority candidates" with stellar academic backgrounds should always be awarded the most highly sought after opportunities...

You blatantly stated the fact that minorities are often "underrepreseted" by your reproachful tone in directly labeling minorites as underqualified entries into programs of such high recognition...

Wake up you dimunitive quasi bigot. The world is not a complete meritocracy and you are not the policing authority on who should get into any introductory banking programs or any for that matter. Banks are now looking to target people with variations of cross-industry and cross-cultural experience, something I'm sure the 50 or so 3.9 finance majors from Wharton do not know...

They also want people with stellar backgrounds with non-traditional majors who may not even have had any exposure to banking! If you read more industry lit & research in addition to market news, you would know that, but either way, you are shameless and I feel sorry for you. With your haughty disposition and complete lack of faith in the intellectual parity between majority and minority students, you'll fare well in the beginning on Wall Street, but it will be a very short career indeed. Good Luck.

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Dude what is wrong with you? All I said was that the program might be geared toward diversity, making it more difficult for candidates in the majority (i.e. white) to get in versus the standard IB junior year program.

I see zero bigotry in my comments. I am just warning white/Asian/etc. people that this program may be more difficult to get into as it seems to practice a greater degree of Affirmative Action than other IB programs do. I didn't say I "deserved" to get into the program nor that the girl I know who got in didn't deserve it. Nor did I say that it was a bad thing that the program practiced Affirmative Action.

Also, you claim that I said that the minority candidates are "unqualified." Well, re-read my post. I certainly never said that.

As for business school admissions, I'm at Wharton undergrad and from taking many classes with MBAs and interacting with them and the admissions officers through clubs, ECs, etc., I think I have a pretty good idea of how business school admissions work. One piece of advice for you: Wharton (and most other top business schools) require an interview - so personality counts.

I don't know what your problem is, but please don't feel sorry for me. I bet you'd kill to work at the bank I'll be working at. You are clearly just really disgruntled about something. As for telling me that I'll have a "short career," as the other responses to you said too, there is no way anyone wants to be near someone who speaks like you and is so overly aggressive. Just chill out, a lot.

 

Dav, White male, and I actually didn't end up making it, got to the final interview round but wasn't given an offer. Also I don't think you are bitter or racist or a bigot like some are saying, you just had a limited scope of info like we all do.

 

"They also want people with stellar backgrounds with non-traditional majors who may not even have had any exposure to banking!"

This makes absolutely no sense. I'm not questioning the validity of the comment but the absolutely nonsense it entails. Thats so stupid that its harder to get into as a finance major than a damn philosphy major or something rediculous like that. Not even harder to get it, just the fact that finance majors arent the overall top priority. If that is the case, they should do away with the business major as whole because I, and many others if that statement is correct, are wasting 120,000 dollars.

 

You obviously are not a highly detail oriented individual and have very limited analytical capabilities...

I honestly do not know what's worse. Your redundant comments, or your obscene and remarkably egregious spelling, diction and syntactical errors underscored by your underdeveloped pre-adolescent conceptual motor abilities. Let's take a trip back to third grade shall we?

"They ALSO want people with stellar backgrounds with non-traditional majors who may not even have had any exposure to banking!"

Also: –adverb 1. in addition; too; besides; as well: He was thin, and he was ALSO tall.

Get it? Great! Now onto third grade honors math because I have faith in you that with hard work and persistence, you'll be classified as average before the end of recess....

Finance, Econ, Acctg. majors are a given in any IB program. However, people also want to show some variation in their analyst classes to showcase the firm's commitment to "diversity" in experience and background. I was also a finance major, but I know from first hand experience that there was an art history major who was also in our IB analyst class more than a year ago. Now onto our math lesson ajp87. Nap time is in a few minutes...

If I have 10 spots reserved for my IB analyst program and there are 30 Ivy league finance majors with 3.9 GPA's and 5 art history majors with 4.0's who have demonstrated a high aptitude for the business with finance related minors, what is the probability selection percentage that you will be selected from the IVY league pool given that I have reserved 8 spots for finance majors, and 2 spots for non traditional majors? (If you think that HR and MD's don't devise their pools like this, I suggest you post a forum topic to poll...)

Now today's lesson was brought to you by the word ALSO, the number 10 and the letters R & E as in Read and carefully Evaluate before you comment...

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vadremc:
You obviously are not a highly detail oriented individual and have very limited analytical capabilities...

I honestly do not know what's worse. Your redundant comments, or your obscene and remarkably egregious spelling, diction and syntactical errors underscored by your underdeveloped pre-adolescent conceptual motor abilities. Let's take a trip back to third grade shall we?

"They ALSO want people with stellar backgrounds with non-traditional majors who may not even have had any exposure to banking!"

Also: –adverb 1. in addition; too; besides; as well: He was thin, and he was ALSO tall.

Get it? Great! Now onto third grade honors math because I have faith in you that with hard work and persistence, you'll be classified as average before the end of recess....

Finance, Econ, Acctg. majors are a given in any IB program. However, people also want to show some variation in their analyst classes to showcase the firm's commitment to "diversity" in experience and background. I was also a finance major, but I know from first hand experience that there was an art history major who was also in our IB analyst class more than a year ago. Now onto our math lesson ajp87. Nap time is in a few minutes...

If I have 10 spots reserved for my IB analyst program and there are 30 Ivy league finance majors with 3.9 GPA's and 5 art history majors with 4.0's who have demonstrated a high aptitude for the business with finance related minors, what is the probability selection percentage that you will be selected from the IVY league pool given that I have reserved 8 spots for finance majors, and 2 spots for non traditional majors? (If you think that HR and MD's don't devise their pools like this, I suggest you post a forum topic to poll...)

Now today's lesson was brought to you by the word ALSO, the number 10 and the letters R & E as in Read and carefully Evaluate before you comment...

Dude, your vernacular is lacking....

But in all honesty, most of your points are certainly valid. But perhaps you should speak in a more.....normal...tone. I can't imagine many people would like to hear their fellow analyst speaking like that 24/7. It wreaks of brashness and arrogance. I don't even think his comments were so bigoted that they deserved such a response. We're all (well most of us) are intelligent here...but imagine if everyone spoke like that?

 

Yeah I applied through my school's careernet.  I don't really want it though.  I am in second rounds for the CS quantitative equity research internship, so I would much rather have that as that program has 2 interns and this one has many.

 

Watch out is my advice. They (HR) called me unexpectedly and totally out of the blue on a freaking Saturday. Needless to say it didn't go too well and I never got to the interview stage.

Be prepared for JPMorgan's sneak attack.

 

If you're not prepared to speak with someone from a bank, why would you answer a call from an unknown 212 number?

 

Can I get an opinion?  My friend and I (both sophomores) applied to this program.  My friend is at CU bolder and told me that his dad is good friends with the head of risk management at JPM, which is completely believable considering his dad was CFO of GMACR.  WIth a reference like that what do you think his chances are of getting an interview?  Just wondering because it would make my life much easier if he got it because I would have a definite roommate on the same schedule this summer.

 

I am a freshman, this program is probably extremely competitive but you never know, so I prefer to be ready.

JambaMan, when they called was it already for an interview ?

 

You should talk with an admissions officer or a current student at an Ivy League MBA program to inquire about the admissions process. I think you will be very enlightened as to how the process is conducted.

"Cut the burger into thirds, place it on the fries, roll one up homey..." - Epic Meal Time
 

I just read your post in the "operations" thread, vadremc. So you're in operations, eh? Spent 1 year in banking, decided you couldn't hack it (or were asked to leave because you sucked), and now you're in operations.

And worst of all, you're advising people in the "operations" thread to pursue operations over banking, since you make 85% of what you made as banking analyst by working in operations! Well, obviously you're not a long-term thinker, buddy. The monetary reason you should never do ops if you can do banking is that the long-term pay potential of banking far exceeds the long-term pay potential of ops. If you advance in banking, you can make millions. The same certainly can't be said for advancing in operations. But it's great that you're content to make 100-150k for the rest of your life and work 50 hours a week :)

Also, I have yet to see a single Wharton MBA resume with operations experience on it. What's more, the fact that you left banking after one year to go to operations makes you look terrible and lazy (leaving after one year to go to private equity makes you look like a superstar though). So I don't know why you bothered to bring up business school.

 

At the request of Kasanova, I'll lighten up on the verbage...

And you say you're not a bigot? Let's review your previous to last post and see if we can expose you...

  1. "I see zero bigotry in my comments. I am just warning white/Asian/etc. people that this program may be more difficult to get into as it seems to practice a greater degree of Affirmative Action than other IB programs do."

The last time I checked, Asians were minorities as well...so now you're including Asians in your defensive diatribe...interesting...funny how you left out anyone who has a cultural tie to India, Hispanics and you were certainly clear about excluding African-Americans...whether you know this or not, Asians are classified as minorities...

Secondly did you really claw around the site to attempt to dig up dirt on me? Now tell me who needs to chill out. That's just sad. I don't have to defend myself, people ask why I chose ops over continuing IB, plain and simple, I tell them the fund I work for is allowing me visibility in a number of different areas, that's why. If you read my stat section about me as well, you would know that I'm leaning toward a JD first and considering going the MBA route as well...

So not only do you dislike anyone who's not white or asian, but you fail to see that there are many roads to being accepted into an MBA program. And since you like to dig up dirt, I can play that game as well... BTW - Try to be original when you attempt a comeback okay? This isnt your finance theory class so don't copy off the smart minority next to you...

"Cut the burger into thirds, place it on the fries, roll one up homey..." - Epic Meal Time
 

vadremc, you are a jackass. He obviously was referring to underrepresented minorities. Obviously Asians do not fall into this category (i.e. affirmative actions does not help them) and you seem bright enough to know that, so why'd you bring it up? Just to be combative? There was not a single racist remark in his comment. All he said was that it appeared that the program was aimed at hiring underrepresented minorities.

Sorry, I know it's none of my business, but people like you piss me off. Every time someone cries racism when it's obvious to 99% of people that there was no racism, you take the legitimacy out of REAL claims of racism.

 

RNR1811, well I think some people on here are already getting interview calls/ rejections, so I guess it is rolling, even though this person from jp morgan told me that they check them all at the end. Also I can't call up the bank cause jpm has a lot of recruiters all over the world, and I can't really ask for a specific one. So the people who applied in the past, did you always have a contact name?

 

Regardless of thread-jacking, I applied for the Honors Program and did not make it last year. I was at a non-target, but had fantastic EC's, a solid GPA, and knew a decent amount on banking.

Here's some advice: Apply, continue with the process. IT DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU ARE ACCEPTED! Use that time to network with people in the firm, which will secure your junior year. You'll come out much stronger for next year since you'll have a small network and some materials provided by JPM. Let alone, the interviewing experience is crucial to your success.

 

dcmonkey was this an invite for a formal interview with an interviewer or was this a brief 15 minute chat with someone from Human Resources with a formal interview set up later?

I ask this because I received a phone call from someone in HR who just asked why I chose my undergrad school and if I was interested in doing the program.

She said if we decide to go further with your application and set up a formal interview, we will contact you but I have not heard anything yet.

When did you hear?

 

This is an invite for a formal interview. JP Morgan interviews on campus at my school, and they are doing the interviews for the Honors Program on the same day that they are interviewing the candidates for regular summer internships. Good luck.

 

We do realize that freshmen/sophomores have not taken finance/accounting classes yet so we would not expect you to discuss DCF etc. We focus primarily on your prior work experience (understandably will be limited and not finance-related) and transferable skills from those work experiences (e.g. team work, leadership, work ethic, etc.) Strong communication skills are a must, so make sure you have good stories and tell them well.

 

Is the JP Morgan Honors program open exclusively to students of color, women, and with disabilities? On the website it mentions that it includes the above but is not limited to. My parents are both from India and I was wondering if I was qualified for the program.

 

>>I posted this on the thread about whether I'm a bigot or not (lol) created by vadremc, but I wanted anyone applying to or interested in the Honors program to see it so I'm reposting it here as well...

Your stats say you go to Morehouse, an HBCU, but you're not black?

Anyway, I drew my conclusion that the program was aimed somewhat at diversity (more so than a traditional IB analyst class) based on the comments of my friend, who did the program 2 summers ago (and is going back to be at JPM full time next year).

This may help a bit, from JPMorgan's website about the Honors program: http://usibcareers.jpmorgan.com/content/content_122.asp

And here is the description of the regular IB program (for candidates in their junior year): http://usibcareers.jpmorgan.com/content/content_119.asp

I think the fact that the first line of the Honors program description comes right out and says it's for "students of diverse backgrounds" is a pretty strong indicator that it's at least somewhat aimed at attracting underrepresented minorities (since you keep noting that I'm failing to mention all minorities except whites and Asians in my posts, vadremc, I'll be more explicit: underrepresented minorities in banking = black, Hispanic, Native American; Asians, Indians, Pakistanis, Arabs, etc. are not underrepresented and thus do not benefit from Affirmative Action in banking).

While it's true that the program description goes on to say it's not limited to students of color, just the fact that that's basically the first thing the description says should be a good indication. If you look at the posting for the regular IB program, you'll see that nowhere does it mention seeking diverse candidates. I also checked out the postings on Penn's online job apply system, and that line about "students from diverse backgrounds" is right at the top of the Honors Program description as well, but the internship posting for the general junior year investment banking program mentions nothing about seeking diverse candidates (not even a line about JPMorgan being an equal opportunity / affirmative action employer).

Just to note too, for anyone interested in the Honors program, there's only 15 interview slots at Penn for the Honors program summer internship (versus 45 interview slots for the regular IB program)..yikes.

So, I hope that's the last we'll hear from you, vadremc.

 

Yes, I had an interview a few weeks ago for the Honors Program as well. All fit questions being that you are only a sophomore. Know why S&T, M&A, or Research. Know why JPM and be able to walk-through your resume. That was all that I had. One brainteaser about the number of ping-pong balls that can fit into a 747.

I had my interview a few weeks ago and I haven't heard anything. It appears that they are still interviewing applicants though so I might not be out of it just yet.

 

I'm actually a freshman, but thanks a lot Roller4Life. I really appreciate that.

In reference to AgreeWitMe's post, I applied sometime in the middle of January. I both sent my resume online and by mail.

I'm going to do some studying now.

 

it was a first-round phone interview with Goldman Private Wealth Management. I don't know yet, I will know by early next week.

I'm praying and staying positive. I think I did make it to the next round though

I just stressed on my interview that I'm a big fan of the financial markets and follow them routinely. He told me the face to face interviews will be next Friday and I told him I would be available so I think it was a good sign.

 

I applied last year in January and had an interview in February. I had a 4.0 from a semi-target and only limited work experience.

I thought my interview went very well, but like interestedguy said, the program is mainly for minorities, and I (as a Caucasian) did not have that great of a chance.

 

I'm not sure where the application is. I guess talk to your schools careercenter.

My friend told me that the minorityi/non-minority ratio was 1:1 appx. I think its just geared toward freak geniuses who overachieve. They were all "extremely intelligent and qualified"...he also said (months ago after his interview) that the "overwhelming majority" of students at his superday of about 50 or so students were white.

 

I'm pretty sure that they only take applications for the Honours Summer in December/January.

On another note, is this program exclusively in the US or does it also apply to JPMorgan offices in Canada?

 

I was in the JPMorgan Honors Program two summers ago and while it's mostly targeted towards rising juniors, there were a few rising sophomores in the program. On a side note, I graduated from UIUC, so you do have a chance. I'm a first year analyst and this year the IB has 5 first-year analysts from U of I.

A note of caution, you may want to avoid banking during the summer after your freshman year. Enjoy that summer!

 
freeloader:
I wouldn't count on it. There was only 1 freshman intern at JPM, from MIT, who was in quant research, and had major contacts (i.e. family in IB and PE).

You should probably do some factchecking before you make such statements about "only 1 freshman", no offense. There was a high school senior (rising freshman) (every year the global head of m&a at JPM gives an internship to one graduating senior at the high school he went to), there was also a freshman from UVA (see above), and there was also an intern who was a rising sophomore doing her second JPM internship (although this last summer analyst DID have serious connections). My contact in the bank never even met/heard of the MIT freshman you mentioned. The point is, there were freshmen there.

As you can see from the above list, extremely qualified nontargets can get in.

 

My friend got the same call today about the program. He is going for S&T too and it seems that you guys have the same lady since she told the same exact thing. I woud just practice some logic question, read the WSJ a bit and know your resume inside and out and you should do fine.

 
Roller4Life:
OH YEAH....for all those interested in the diversity in terms of minority background the lady said specifically that it is not diversity in terms of your culture or ethnic background/minority status, but rather your diversity of experience with respect to the things you have done such as activities/clubs, organizations etc...

So you mean being a part of a club full of "diverse" people? Or participating in activities that are predominantly partaken in by "diverse" people?

 

I didn't interview S&T for Honors program last year, I did Corp. Finance but here is what I remember from the phone interview: a woman made me walk her through my resume, asked me some simple math calc questions, like what is the anti-derivate of x squared, but the question like came out of nowhere, we were talking about classes and she goes like I see you took calculas, so what is the anti... It wasn't hard, they asked me what company I would most recommend to invest in, and just basic stuff. Just be confident and communicate your ideas and experience well.

there weren't any brainteasers until I got to final round, but of course anything can always change. PM me if you have other questions

 

Incase people were wondering how selective the program is, they take 20 people. I don't know if that is 20 each for Corp. Finance, Research and Sales & Trading for a total of 60 or 20 for all three groups combined which would be just over 6 people, which is probably too low.

Most likely the former.

 

patekphilippe in regards to diversity what JP Morgan is looking for is candidates who can help to diversify the company through their prior experiences. This can be achieved through their college major, extracurricular activities, prior work/internship experience.

Another words, JP Morgan is not seeking a diversity program that is only for hispanics, blacks or other underrepresented minority groups.

 

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