2/18/10

What's the ladder at each consulting firm?

Deloitte Consulting:

Analyst (Undergrad) => Consultant = > Senior Consultant (MBA) => Manager => Senior Manager => Principal / Director.

Principal E => Principal D => Principal C = > Principal B = > Principal A.

Director should be (not 100% sure on this) => 1,2,3,4,5.

Deloitte also has the specialist route - for its technology folks that don't want to do Project Management and want to simply stay in the system.

Analyst => Specialist => Senior Specialist = > Specialist Master = > Specialist Leader

I know you can't make Principal this route but not sure about Director.

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2/20/10

From memory, so I could be off.

McKinsey:
Business Analyst -->(MBA) --> Associate (Senior Associate) --> Engagement Manager --> Associate Principal --> Partner --> Director

Bain:
Associate Consultant (Senior Associate Consultant) --> (MBA) --> Consultant --> Case Team Leader --> Manager --> Partner

BCG:
Associate --> (MBA) --> Consultant --> Project Leader --> Principal --> Partner

(EDITED: Thanks for the corrections)

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2/19/10

For McKinsey, the first post-MBA position is Associate, not Consultant. Everything else above is accurate.

2/19/10

Bain is
Associate consultant
Senior AC
(MBA)
Consultant (not everyone does CTL)
Manager
Partner

2/19/10

I know people that are senior associates at McK - that's what it says on their business card.

2/19/10

OW (FS):
Consultant --> Partner

2/19/10
PorcineAviation:

OW (FS):
Consultant --> Partner

so OW only has two positions? consultant and partner ? that's hard to believe.

2/20/10
kennethlchen:
PorcineAviation:

OW (FS):
Consultant --> Partner

so OW only has two positions? consultant and partner ? that's hard to believe.

Yes.

2/19/10
  • apologies double post

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2/20/10

LEK:

Associate --> Associate Consultant --> (MBA) --> Consultant --> Manager --> Partner (technically, the title is VP)

2/21/10

mckinsey has a junior associate, tho i'm not sure what that means..

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3/9/10

What are the pay levels for these positions? How about at a firm like Monitor?

3/10/10
Dickens15:

What are the pay levels for these positions? How about at a firm like Monitor?

Which positions specifically ?

3/10/10
Dickens15:

What are the pay levels for these positions? How about at a firm like Monitor?

Which positions specifically ?

3/10/10

Preferably all positions on the ladder would be really helpful. I would kind of like to understand comp in this industry/firm.

3/9/10

this is a great thread!

3/11/10

time frame would also be helpful ( i realize all firms and employees are different)
say how long from (MBA) --> Consultant --> Manager --> Partner?

3/11/10

MBA --> EM/Case team leader = 2-3 years

EM/Case team leader ---> Manager/principal- 1-2.5 years

Principal/manager -----> Partner - 3-5 years

3/11/10

Thanks for the insight...I'm surprised that the leap from EM/CTL to Manager/principal can be done in as little as 1 year!

3/11/10

It generally only increases. You work on the client's schedule and you gain more client interaction/relationship management as you move up.

3/11/10

does it ever get close to banking hours?

3/11/10

It's variable.

55-65 hours would not be a killer week. 70-80 is not unreasonable in the lead up to delivery of a major deliverable. 45-50 (or less) is also to be expected if on the beach without a major proposal to work up.

My experience has been that the team - from Partner down - typically work similar hours in the office. Partners and other seniors probably do more reading/review/prep work at home but face time is all about the same.

Partner's typically have more travel as well, so that's a factor.

Experience's vary though - some partners are a lot more hands on, others are happy to let their juniors own the work and will focus on selling new work (these partners tend to work fewer hours).

3/11/10

I think it sucks all the time if you want to move up.

3/11/10

Wait, so the hours suck MORE as you progress in consulting? Overall, how does the progression of hours compare to IBD? I ask only because I'm between consulting/ibd after bschool

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3/11/10

From my impression, the hours get worse as you go up the ranks until you hit Senior Manager, then the "hours" start to decrease slightly. However, Senior Managers/Partners/Directors spend a lot of time thinking about the job outside of working hours, so I think they're under more stress overall.

3/11/10

Actually, I think the hours are the worst as a Senior Manager. There might be an uptick as you go from MBA to Manager but, imo, Partners, on average, work less hours than Sr. Mgrs. They might travel more since it's predominantly a sales job.

Grga Pitic

3/11/10

Zzari:

From my impression, the hours get worse as you go up the ranks until you hit Senior Manager, then the "hours" start to decrease slightly. However, Senior Managers/Partners/Directors spend a lot of time thinking about the job outside of working hours, so I think they're under more stress overall.

Same impression I get. Though I think in terms of pure bitchwork, Project Leaders (who can't/refuse to delegate) have it the worst.

3/11/10

also travel gets 100x worse (or better if you're an addict). 3-4 cities a week is not uncommon. every week.

3/11/10
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