Have $10,000 in savings- Where to invest?
College sophomore...I have $10,000 sitting around in my bank account. What are some of the best low-risk ways to invest this money and get 5%+ returns on it annually?
College sophomore...I have $10,000 sitting around in my bank account. What are some of the best low-risk ways to invest this money and get 5%+ returns on it annually?
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I'd look at Jeff Gundlach's doubleline total return fund. Pretty safe stuff but a bit more zest (overweight to some less followed mbs strategies) than the typical bond fund which may not get you to 5% these days without taking excessive interest rate/duration and/or credit risk.
Where did you arrive at the 5% return figure?
Give it me. I'll invest it for you.
On a serious note, since no investment is ever guaranteed, you should instead be asking which 10-20 funds you can diversify your money across. If you're not prepared to do the due diligence on 10-20 funds, then you're not prepared to safely invest your money.
boom.
Unfortunately the truth is at your age you should be spending that money taking LARGE risks. People here who are telling you to make 5% are either giving you advice they hear from their college professors or have little time on their hands.
No hate at all. there is a time to think about diversification and a time to try and learn and make a big move.
If you are in college you want to leverage that to make a few big plays. Why? Your signing bonus alone will almost double your worth, besides if you last in Wall Street for longer than a couple years.. 10K isnt anything. $10K mentally to you is equivalent to $1M mentally for you in 5 years or so. Think big when you're young.
There is an important saying everyone should know "Diversify to retain, Go all in to get rich".
When you're younger you can make riskier bets. Use the 7%/5%/10% rules whatever you may choose for your real savings and income. Any job you have today will be peanuts compared to 5+ years on the Street. You can save 10K in a few months in your near future.
Thanks for the answers guys - what about stocks? Can you guys chime in and name 3~5 relatively safe stocks that are likely to boom in next 1~2 years?
Somewhere in the middle I guess - blue chip stocks that are likely to rise consistently, if that makes any sense.
Whatever you do, don't fuck up like me and invest in bitches
Go with what the other guy said and buy some no load index funds. Here's why: as alluded to you should only buy individual equities if you've got the tools or have done the research to believe that the return from that stock outweighs the volatility from owning a single name and lack of diversifications. For novices you should really stick with indices because you reduce costs and benefit from diversification. If you want to scale up and down risk, you can pick riskier/safer indices or keep money in cash. Feeling conservative: 50% cash, 50% s&p tracker. Want to take more risk? scale up to 80% s&p, 20% cash. Even more? Put the last 20% in and emerging market equities etf etc. Obviously this is just a simplistic example and this post relates more to investing newbies.
This. Also, don't just ask us to list 5 stocks for you because if you don't know why you're buying them then you likely won't know when to exit them, and that's how you lose money.
Just invest in a low cost index fund...you can invest in an S&P500 or even the total stock market fund and capture the returns of the entire market without needing to do the research because you'll buy everything! If it was that easy to just tell you five stocks that are going to go up in five years, why would anyone tell you? Even more, why would they tell you for FREE? Look into a book called "Common Sense on Investing in Mutual Funds" by John Bogle.
Wells Fargo Exxon Mobil Google Microsoft Verizon
can you just give me the $10,000 and actually see something useful done with it.
You can chuck 2.5k into crowdsource loans and get a 15% return, with a little admin, attend some startup groups, finding people seeking to get backing, (5k), and then sink the remaining 2.5k into some collectible art from a relatively unknown range of artists. You at least have a chance at some serious upside across all of those, plus your room will be prettier and you wont be clogging finance forums with some ridiculous questions.
"i want lots of reward with no risk." Piss off.
Herbalife and Hewlett-Packard are your safest bets right now
Stick a few thousand into a Roth IRA with good REIT subaccounts. Mine grossed 22% for the last three years. Don't touch this money EVER until you are older.
Stick another few thousand in the bank. You're going to need suits and stuff while interviewing.
Take $1,000 and buy/start a small business. Learn this skill now because that's where the REAL money is. In fact, look at a bunch of things before you go in. Here's a short list of ideas that kids I know do: get stuff from heyitsfree.com or a discount mall and arb it on Ebay, buy a lawnmower and cut grass, start a cash for gold business, write an app, buy cheap shit from China and sell it here, or use your brain and come up with a scheme of your own. Learn how to think beyond the slave wage mentality so you understand how your (future) boss sees things, it will give you a leg up on the other morons in your office who think that they'll ever become wealthy as employees. If you succeed, great, if you fail and lose $1,000 then you paid for a lesson on how the real world works. Plus, now you have another point to stick on your resume.
How do you buy a small biz with $1k?
GOOGLE IT
$500 in returns a year......really? Dude, at your age I could do that in one good night as a bartender. Seriously, man up and put some effort in.
Reiterate UFO's points... "Thesis in tact"
Teach yourself how to think, by failing and learning.
I think he just wants his money to work for him... Selling cars is great! A college roommate of mine paid his way through college doing it. I know a guy who paid his UG and MS tuition by playing poker online & at casinos. But both require time and some skill. If you want to click your mouse and make money in the stock market, you could take up a dividend trading strategy. Dogs-of-the-Dow is one if you don't want to actively manage it. Invest your 10K in the 10 highest paying dividend stocks in the Dow Jones Industrial Average and just let it sit... As a sophomore in college, I would be much more active though. Find 5-10 high dividend stocks with solid financial-basics and study their past price trends. Typically, with higher yielding stocks, the price starts to climb a week or so before the ex-dividend date. Schedule this and buy in a day or two before the historical price climb. Ride the price climb up. Collect the dividend. Price drops and then typically stabilizes. Sell it at a reasonable price and move on to the next stock. If you can stagger ex-dividend dates throughout your calendar, you will have an active trading strategy that doesn’t require you to be parked in front of a monitor all day. I would never put any less than $2,500 in any trade at any one time. Yeah that’s 25% of your capital. But with brokerage fees and taxes, any less capital invested and it’s nearly impossible to come out on top in the short term. I know tons of people say it’s not a good idea to use a timing strategy in the markets. But for this kid, it’ll keep him engaged, he’ll learn about trading and regardless of his trade timing, he collects dividends. T, CTL, GE, INTC, MRK, VZ *Grain of salt that comes with all investing: pay attention to the macro economy. If markets are in a free fall: fuck the dividends, stuff it in your mattress or find something counter-cyclical.
Pick an undervalued stock, stuff your 10k in it. Once it's up 15% to 20%, sell it and buy another one.
making money in college with 5000 (Originally Posted: 03/27/2011)
so i have been obsessed with stocks my whole life and i think i know them well enough to begin trading. my dad gave me 5000 to play around with. i am currently a freshman in college and need some money desperately. what is the best way to make money while also fulfill my urge to want to be more involved in the stock market? any thoughts?
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put it into AGQ and leave it for a year.
Thank me then.
I'd listen to this guy. AGQ shot up +100% in like less than 2 months...
if you need to make money then i would look into other ways. In order to actually make money trading/betting/poker you need to be a bit removed from the money, otherwise you are just setting yourself up to fail.
Good traders learn techniques to trade. Some of it's skill and analysis, and the other part is luck. If you have $5000, then you could find some books to read about value stocks and how to find them.
ok are you going to be actually day trading with that 5k or investing that 5k, big difference. because if ur gonna be trying to day or swing trade, commish on 5k will eat ur account up. Try looking into retail fx trading, you can open a mini account and trade .10 standard lot sizes($1/pip) so that means if you use a 50 pip stop with 1 minilot thats only risking 1% of your account. FWIW this is how i made an income my last two years at uni. Id stay away from the equity asset class given the small amount of capital.
if ur trying to day trade, open a practice account. Trade it as you would REAL money for one year. if you can be consistently profitable for consecutive 6 months then i might consider putting real capital to work. Dont trade ur 5k right off the bat because you will loose it all. trust me when i say this.
what i meant to say is that with 5000 what do you think the most profitable situation would be? i am willing to do tons of research before ever using my money to learn something new to trade. i am just somewhat new to all this and was asking what you think could be the most profitable. i started off day trading but realized that your right about the commissions. i would really like to stay day trading but anything would work. what are your ideas?
American or Canadian? I invest / swing trade Canadian stocks. Can't go wrong with them ol' penny stocks.
BUT, never invest money that you can't afford to lose!
^Totally agree with the above.
18k to invest (Originally Posted: 02/20/2012)
I have $18,000 sitting in a savings account. Where's the best place to put it for 24 months?
I'm in a similar position as you. I have about the same to invest, and I'm looking 3-5 years out. I'm thinking about putting 20% in gold, 10% in silver, but after that I got nothing. Stocks are dangerous, although they'll probably march higher over the next 12 months on a weaker dollar.
Play with the ETF's
I don't think investing in gold long-term is very prudent seeing as its a bubble and its only a matter of time before it pops.
CHK...Bet the ranch.
Nat gas prices are in the shitter....and going to stay that way for awhile. FSYS or WPRT
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=BAC140118C00012000
Let it ride
depends on how much you are making now.
if you are a student just throw it into a 2-3 stocks that you have researched and like. if you are working def look into a roth IRA, ETFs, MFs, etc.
AMRC - Ameresco. I'd try it, a bit speculative but it could work out pretty well over the next few years.
First question that needs to be answered is what are you looking to do with 18k? Are you seeking ways to speculate or do you want to get something that's better than 0.01% interest rate for the next 24 months?
If you are going to speculate, then 18k should be enough for most brokerage to offer some kind of discounted commission or even no commission.
Then you need to consider how much time you have. While I do due diligence for living, I simply do not have enough time to do DD on companies of my personal interest. If you do have time to do research and make certain that the current price is undervalued, then great, go for those companies.
If you say no to both of the questions above, then VTI is your best friend, because unless you are paying attention to your investments, you will wake up one morning to DNDN (Aug 2011) or DMND (Feb 2012) situation.
And one more - don't seek for commission free ETFs. Their horrible bid-ask spread is usually more than sub-$10 commission.
Hi my name is Joe, looking for $18k for the make Joe look better fund.
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Or put it all on red.
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If you will need it in 24 months you should put very little in equities. Put around 80% in low risk fixed-income derived ETFs.
20% precious metals 30% low risk bond funds 15% Dividend stocks 10% Tech 10% Emerging markets 15% Cash
Rebalance at extremes
Put retirement / core savings in an IRA
Go big or go home.
I was in the same position as you a couple of years ago. The minimum to get any sort of incentive from brokerage firms is typically 25k.
I would put a good 80% in equities. DOW 14000 seems not too far away and would put a chunk of that in tech stocks - semiconductor industry to be specific and the remainder in commercial banks (and MS) and consumer goods.
I am a bit biased because I am heavy on technicals and it seems the "Tech IPO frenzy" is prevailing. The groupons, pandoras,linkedins,zyngas seem like they will keep riding the train so I will long them for the short ter,
Also, when YELP goes public on Mar 2nd, put that 18k in it on day 1. Since you have less than 25k, you cant sell the same day. sell the very next day. Look at 1st and second day IPO performance for tech stocks over the last year and you will see why this trade carries zero risk.
Thank me later!
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Hey Jeffskilling....might sound funny but was able to turn a little over 15k to over 100k between May 09 and December 11 :-)
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I don't watch garbage like fast money...i'm calling it on fundamentals....gold is supposed to be traded as a raw material for parts, i.e. companies that purchase physical gold hedge their exposures in the futures markets....the market sentiment to pile excess cash into gold goes against this standard, i.e. inflating the price of gold because of EU uncertainty..
total gold holdings by US investors doesnt matter for shit...not sure why you even mentioned it.
I agreed with you on the treasuries bubble...you conspiracy on the fiat currency system is in itself a conspiracy.
There's your first problem, gold is not a raw material, gold is money.
Yeah I meant % of total global assets held by investors, I added some numbers to my post to give you a better perspective. Gold right now is probably the exact opposite of a bubble.
Yeah I'm a total loon for being skeptical of Bernanke's and Obama's handling of the economy.
1) how much return do you expect? 2) how risk avers are you? 3) if you looking for a midterm investment, stocks are not as "dangerous" as many ppl think. read some articles, broker reports, look at some valuations, analyze the market and you'll be pretty much on the safe side. you won't become warren buffets by investing 18k in stocks or in gold. and, probably more important as I have perceived your atitude so far, you will not lose your money. three years after the worst crisis ever, stocks have reached same levels 4) hedge your investment
there is so much money in the world that needs to be invested. I think, stocks are always a good choice.
Buy Div stocks and sell deep covered calls, easy way to get 10% a year without too much risk.
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